We have a 14 years old Border Collie bitch as a pet. She is lively and
appears in good health but drinks huge amounts of water and suffers from
urine dribble incontinence. Our local vet put her on antibiotics which
didn't help at all - we took her back again and got a highly technical
medical explanation which was above our heads! so now we are no further
ahead.
Any help would be appreciated and she's a very well behaved dog and
obviously doesn't like having her coat permanently soaked in urine.
We've put tarpaulin over the carpet in one room during the night and have to
mop up frequently. Any help on this very much appreciated.

Mike

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Mike Gilmour wrote:
We have a 14 years old Border Collie bitch as a pet. She is lively and
appears in good health but drinks huge amounts of water and suffers from
urine dribble incontinence. Our local vet put her on antibiotics which
didn't help at all - we took her back again and got a highly technical
medical explanation which was above our heads! so now we are no further
ahead.

The serious problem here is excessive drinking, which can be
caused by a variety of disorders and should be addressed.
Also, excessive drinking can lead to very dilute urine,
which reduces the antibiotic effects of urine in her bladder
and entire urinary tract and can leave her more vulnerable
to UTIs. Polydipsia can be caused by anything from
Cushing's to kidney failure to a form of diabetes. I'd
definitely get her checked out by a different veterinarian.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Fascism should more properly be called 'corporatism,' since it
is the marriage of government and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini

In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
We have a 14 years old Border Collie bitch as a pet. She is lively and
appears in good health but drinks huge amounts of water and suffers from
urine dribble incontinence. Our local vet put her on antibiotics which
didn't help at all - we took her back again and got a highly technical
medical explanation which was above our heads! so now we are no further
ahead.

The serious problem here is excessive drinking, which can be
caused by a variety of disorders and should be addressed.
Also, excessive drinking can lead to very dilute urine,
which reduces the antibiotic effects of urine in her bladder
and entire urinary tract and can leave her more vulnerable
to UTIs. Polydipsia can be caused by anything from
Cushing's to kidney failure to a form of diabetes. I'd
definitely get her checked out by a different veterinarian.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Fascism should more properly be called 'corporatism,' since it
is the marriage of government and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini

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In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
We have a 14 years old Border Collie bitch as a pet. She is lively and
appears in good health but drinks huge amounts of water and suffers from
urine dribble incontinence. Our local vet put her on antibiotics which
didn't help at all - we took her back again and got a highly technical
medical explanation which was above our heads! so now we are no further
ahead.

The serious problem here is excessive drinking, which can be
caused by a variety of disorders and should be addressed.
Also, excessive drinking can lead to very dilute urine,
which reduces the antibiotic effects of urine in her bladder
and entire urinary tract and can leave her more vulnerable
to UTIs. Polydipsia can be caused by anything from
Cushing's to kidney failure to a form of diabetes. I'd
definitely get her checked out by a different veterinarian.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Fascism should more properly be called 'corporatism,' since it
is the marriage of government and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini

Thanks Melinda,

I'll take your advice about getting her checked out by a different
veterinarian.
Any advice on how to easily obtain a urine sample with Polydipsia as I feel
sure this would be useful to the veterinarian?

Mike

"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
We have a 14 years old Border Collie bitch as a pet. She is lively and
appears in good health but drinks huge amounts of water and suffers from
urine dribble incontinence. Our local vet put her on antibiotics which
didn't help at all - we took her back again and got a highly technical
medical explanation which was above our heads! so now we are no further
ahead.

The serious problem here is excessive drinking, which can be
caused by a variety of disorders and should be addressed.
Also, excessive drinking can lead to very dilute urine,
which reduces the antibiotic effects of urine in her bladder
and entire urinary tract and can leave her more vulnerable
to UTIs. Polydipsia can be caused by anything from
Cushing's to kidney failure to a form of diabetes. I'd
definitely get her checked out by a different veterinarian.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Fascism should more properly be called 'corporatism,' since it
is the marriage of government and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini

Thanks Melinda,

I'll take your advice about getting her checked out by a different
veterinarian.
Any advice on how to easily obtain a urine sample with Polydipsia as I feel
sure this would be useful to the veterinarian?

Mike

In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
Any advice on how to easily obtain a urine sample with Polydipsia as I feel
sure this would be useful to the veterinarian?

What I do is slip a cake pan underneath her as soon as she
starts to squat, and then transfer the sample to a sealable
(!!) container. My dog really didn't like it and when she
saw me coming towards her with a cake pan she'd give me the
hairy eye and head for the other side of the yard.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Fascism should more properly be called 'corporatism,' since it
is the marriage of government and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini

In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
Any advice on how to easily obtain a urine sample with Polydipsia as I feel
sure this would be useful to the veterinarian?

What I do is slip a cake pan underneath her as soon as she
starts to squat, and then transfer the sample to a sealable
(!!) container. My dog really didn't like it and when she
saw me coming towards her with a cake pan she'd give me the
hairy eye and head for the other side of the yard.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Fascism should more properly be called 'corporatism,' since it
is the marriage of government and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini

"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
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What I do is slip a cake pan underneath her as soon as she
starts to squat, and then transfer the sample to a sealable
(!!) container. My dog really didn't like it and when she
saw me coming towards her with a cake pan she'd give me the
hairy eye and head for the other side of the yard.

Having the dog on a leash might make this go more smoothly.

I was surprised at how easy it was to get a urine sample from Orson in the
vet's parking lot while he was on a leash. I just waited for him to start
peeing and stuck the cup in the stream. Of course you have to have a sink
and some soap nearby when you use this method.

Cate

"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
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What I do is slip a cake pan underneath her as soon as she
starts to squat, and then transfer the sample to a sealable
(!!) container. My dog really didn't like it and when she
saw me coming towards her with a cake pan she'd give me the
hairy eye and head for the other side of the yard.

Having the dog on a leash might make this go more smoothly.

I was surprised at how easy it was to get a urine sample from Orson in the
vet's parking lot while he was on a leash. I just waited for him to start
peeing and stuck the cup in the stream. Of course you have to have a sink
and some soap nearby when you use this method.

Cate

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Cate wrote:
I was surprised at how easy it was to get a urine sample from Orson in the
vet's parking lot while he was on a leash. I just waited for him to start
peeing and stuck the cup in the stream. Of course you have to have a sink
and some soap nearby when you use this method.

My vet has a homemade urine-collector-thingie. They cut the
bottom off a 1-gallon Clorox bottle, leaving about 2" of
rim, and made a handle out of a wire hanger which they
attached to the cut-off bottom. It wasn't very steady but
it seems like a very handy way to deal with collecting urine
from males (which, knock on wood, I haven't yet had to do).
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Fascism should more properly be called 'corporatism,' since it
is the marriage of government and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini