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Old September 3rd 04, 03:38 PM
Michael Hudson
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Default German Shepherd/Pit Bull puppy advice, please.

I'm back for more free and immediate advice! The local humane society has a
litter of German Shepherd/Pit Bull (with maybe a dash of Husky, they say)
puppies and my son wants one. I'm the guy with the nine year old neutered
male Cairn. The pups are about 10 weeks old and HS says that they are of
good temperment. I've had one vet already warn me off this combo. He says
he's put two down Â* from good families, mind Â* this pas year alone, and even
if it weren't a mean dog, it would probably be too big (he said it could
possibly go 70-75 lbs) for Jack the Cairn to feel comfortable around.
Another vet says that if the HS's behaviorist gives them good marks, it'll
all be in the socialization-treatment of the dog. Personally, I'm wary.
Also, I've been given conflicting advice, sexwise. Some say if we bring in
a female, all will be ducky. Others say we want a male, as Jack will be
able to do the alpha thing early Â* before the dog got big enough to kick his
little Scottish butt Â* and then be drinking buddies later on.

What say ye, citizens? Thumbs up? Thumbs down? Comments? Anyone?
Beuller?

Thanks very much,

Michael Hudson

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Old September 3rd 04, 04:02 PM
Suja
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Michael Hudson wrote:
I'm back for more free and immediate advice! The local humane society has a
litter of German Shepherd/Pit Bull (with maybe a dash of Husky, they say)
puppies and my son wants one.


Well, do you want a dog that will get to be 70 - 75 lb. and sheds a lot?
Your current dog may not care as much about the size of the dog as
whether he can boss the new addition around or not. In your situation,
I am a little wary of this combination, because Pits can be dog
aggressive, and Mr. Scotty appears to be picky about his companions as
well.

In the three years I have been going to the dog park, I have seen a
handful of Pit puppies grow up to have enough tolerance for other dogs.
My Khan's best buddy is a Pit mix, but she hates Pan (my other dog,
and the feeling is quite mutual), and is picky about her doggie
companions in general. There is a mostly Pit girl named Ashley who
comes to the dog park, but her owner is VERY careful about managing her,
and only lets her in if he is comfortable with the mix of dogs around.
These pups may grow up to have absolutely no dog issues, but it's hard
to tell at this point, and I am not sure I'd be willing to take a chance.

While it is entirely possible for dogs of the same gender to get along
just fine, if you're deciding on putting together two temperamental (or
possibly temperamental) dogs, the best bet is for a male-female
combination to work out. Keep in mind that the pecking order within a
group can change, and your puppy, who accepted being bossed around when
it was smaller, may decide not to tolerate that as he grows up.

Are you sure you won't consider an adolescent or an adult? So many of
these variables are much better established, and you are likely to get a
known commodity, so to speak.

Suja
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Old September 3rd 04, 04:02 PM
Suja
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Michael Hudson wrote:
I'm back for more free and immediate advice! The local humane society has a
litter of German Shepherd/Pit Bull (with maybe a dash of Husky, they say)
puppies and my son wants one.


Well, do you want a dog that will get to be 70 - 75 lb. and sheds a lot?
Your current dog may not care as much about the size of the dog as
whether he can boss the new addition around or not. In your situation,
I am a little wary of this combination, because Pits can be dog
aggressive, and Mr. Scotty appears to be picky about his companions as
well.

In the three years I have been going to the dog park, I have seen a
handful of Pit puppies grow up to have enough tolerance for other dogs.
My Khan's best buddy is a Pit mix, but she hates Pan (my other dog,
and the feeling is quite mutual), and is picky about her doggie
companions in general. There is a mostly Pit girl named Ashley who
comes to the dog park, but her owner is VERY careful about managing her,
and only lets her in if he is comfortable with the mix of dogs around.
These pups may grow up to have absolutely no dog issues, but it's hard
to tell at this point, and I am not sure I'd be willing to take a chance.

While it is entirely possible for dogs of the same gender to get along
just fine, if you're deciding on putting together two temperamental (or
possibly temperamental) dogs, the best bet is for a male-female
combination to work out. Keep in mind that the pecking order within a
group can change, and your puppy, who accepted being bossed around when
it was smaller, may decide not to tolerate that as he grows up.

Are you sure you won't consider an adolescent or an adult? So many of
these variables are much better established, and you are likely to get a
known commodity, so to speak.

Suja
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Old September 3rd 04, 04:02 PM
Suja
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Michael Hudson wrote:
I'm back for more free and immediate advice! The local humane society has a
litter of German Shepherd/Pit Bull (with maybe a dash of Husky, they say)
puppies and my son wants one.


Well, do you want a dog that will get to be 70 - 75 lb. and sheds a lot?
Your current dog may not care as much about the size of the dog as
whether he can boss the new addition around or not. In your situation,
I am a little wary of this combination, because Pits can be dog
aggressive, and Mr. Scotty appears to be picky about his companions as
well.

In the three years I have been going to the dog park, I have seen a
handful of Pit puppies grow up to have enough tolerance for other dogs.
My Khan's best buddy is a Pit mix, but she hates Pan (my other dog,
and the feeling is quite mutual), and is picky about her doggie
companions in general. There is a mostly Pit girl named Ashley who
comes to the dog park, but her owner is VERY careful about managing her,
and only lets her in if he is comfortable with the mix of dogs around.
These pups may grow up to have absolutely no dog issues, but it's hard
to tell at this point, and I am not sure I'd be willing to take a chance.

While it is entirely possible for dogs of the same gender to get along
just fine, if you're deciding on putting together two temperamental (or
possibly temperamental) dogs, the best bet is for a male-female
combination to work out. Keep in mind that the pecking order within a
group can change, and your puppy, who accepted being bossed around when
it was smaller, may decide not to tolerate that as he grows up.

Are you sure you won't consider an adolescent or an adult? So many of
these variables are much better established, and you are likely to get a
known commodity, so to speak.

Suja
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Old September 3rd 04, 04:02 PM
Suja
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Michael Hudson wrote:
I'm back for more free and immediate advice! The local humane society has a
litter of German Shepherd/Pit Bull (with maybe a dash of Husky, they say)
puppies and my son wants one.


Well, do you want a dog that will get to be 70 - 75 lb. and sheds a lot?
Your current dog may not care as much about the size of the dog as
whether he can boss the new addition around or not. In your situation,
I am a little wary of this combination, because Pits can be dog
aggressive, and Mr. Scotty appears to be picky about his companions as
well.

In the three years I have been going to the dog park, I have seen a
handful of Pit puppies grow up to have enough tolerance for other dogs.
My Khan's best buddy is a Pit mix, but she hates Pan (my other dog,
and the feeling is quite mutual), and is picky about her doggie
companions in general. There is a mostly Pit girl named Ashley who
comes to the dog park, but her owner is VERY careful about managing her,
and only lets her in if he is comfortable with the mix of dogs around.
These pups may grow up to have absolutely no dog issues, but it's hard
to tell at this point, and I am not sure I'd be willing to take a chance.

While it is entirely possible for dogs of the same gender to get along
just fine, if you're deciding on putting together two temperamental (or
possibly temperamental) dogs, the best bet is for a male-female
combination to work out. Keep in mind that the pecking order within a
group can change, and your puppy, who accepted being bossed around when
it was smaller, may decide not to tolerate that as he grows up.

Are you sure you won't consider an adolescent or an adult? So many of
these variables are much better established, and you are likely to get a
known commodity, so to speak.

Suja
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Old September 3rd 04, 04:02 PM
Suja
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Michael Hudson wrote:
I'm back for more free and immediate advice! The local humane society has a
litter of German Shepherd/Pit Bull (with maybe a dash of Husky, they say)
puppies and my son wants one.


Well, do you want a dog that will get to be 70 - 75 lb. and sheds a lot?
Your current dog may not care as much about the size of the dog as
whether he can boss the new addition around or not. In your situation,
I am a little wary of this combination, because Pits can be dog
aggressive, and Mr. Scotty appears to be picky about his companions as
well.

In the three years I have been going to the dog park, I have seen a
handful of Pit puppies grow up to have enough tolerance for other dogs.
My Khan's best buddy is a Pit mix, but she hates Pan (my other dog,
and the feeling is quite mutual), and is picky about her doggie
companions in general. There is a mostly Pit girl named Ashley who
comes to the dog park, but her owner is VERY careful about managing her,
and only lets her in if he is comfortable with the mix of dogs around.
These pups may grow up to have absolutely no dog issues, but it's hard
to tell at this point, and I am not sure I'd be willing to take a chance.

While it is entirely possible for dogs of the same gender to get along
just fine, if you're deciding on putting together two temperamental (or
possibly temperamental) dogs, the best bet is for a male-female
combination to work out. Keep in mind that the pecking order within a
group can change, and your puppy, who accepted being bossed around when
it was smaller, may decide not to tolerate that as he grows up.

Are you sure you won't consider an adolescent or an adult? So many of
these variables are much better established, and you are likely to get a
known commodity, so to speak.

Suja
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Old September 3rd 04, 04:02 PM
Suja
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Michael Hudson wrote:
I'm back for more free and immediate advice! The local humane society has a
litter of German Shepherd/Pit Bull (with maybe a dash of Husky, they say)
puppies and my son wants one.


Well, do you want a dog that will get to be 70 - 75 lb. and sheds a lot?
Your current dog may not care as much about the size of the dog as
whether he can boss the new addition around or not. In your situation,
I am a little wary of this combination, because Pits can be dog
aggressive, and Mr. Scotty appears to be picky about his companions as
well.

In the three years I have been going to the dog park, I have seen a
handful of Pit puppies grow up to have enough tolerance for other dogs.
My Khan's best buddy is a Pit mix, but she hates Pan (my other dog,
and the feeling is quite mutual), and is picky about her doggie
companions in general. There is a mostly Pit girl named Ashley who
comes to the dog park, but her owner is VERY careful about managing her,
and only lets her in if he is comfortable with the mix of dogs around.
These pups may grow up to have absolutely no dog issues, but it's hard
to tell at this point, and I am not sure I'd be willing to take a chance.

While it is entirely possible for dogs of the same gender to get along
just fine, if you're deciding on putting together two temperamental (or
possibly temperamental) dogs, the best bet is for a male-female
combination to work out. Keep in mind that the pecking order within a
group can change, and your puppy, who accepted being bossed around when
it was smaller, may decide not to tolerate that as he grows up.

Are you sure you won't consider an adolescent or an adult? So many of
these variables are much better established, and you are likely to get a
known commodity, so to speak.

Suja
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Old September 3rd 04, 04:12 PM
Leah
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Michael Hudson wrote:
The local humane society has a
litter of German Shepherd/Pit Bull (with maybe a dash of Husky, they say)
puppies and my son wants one. I'm the guy with the nine year old neutered
male Cairn. The pups are about 10 weeks old and HS says that they are of
good temperment. I've had one vet already warn me off this combo. He says
he's put two down Â* from good families, mind Â* this pas year alone, and even
if it weren't a mean dog, it would probably be too big (he said it could
possibly go 70-75 lbs) for Jack the Cairn to feel comfortable around.
Another vet says that if the HS's behaviorist gives them good marks, it'll
all be in the socialization-treatment of the dog. Personally, I'm wary.


Unless you know that the sire and/or dam have temperament problems, you can't
make assumptions about temperament in this breed mix. Size, yes - it will
probably be a pretty big dog. But plenty of dogs of differing sizes cohabitate
together without a problem. I agree with the second vet - socialization and
training are far more important than the breed mix.

Also, I've been given conflicting advice, sexwise. Some say if we bring in
a female, all will be ducky. Others say we want a male, as Jack will be
able to do the alpha thing early Â* before the dog got big enough to kick his
little Scottish butt Â* and then be drinking buddies later on.


With a female, there will be less chance of shoulder-punching going on in the
first place. Doing the "alpha thing early" won't make a difference - if
there's going to be problems between them, it will happen when the new dog
begins to mature, not while he's a baby.
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Old September 3rd 04, 04:12 PM
Leah
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Michael Hudson wrote:
The local humane society has a
litter of German Shepherd/Pit Bull (with maybe a dash of Husky, they say)
puppies and my son wants one. I'm the guy with the nine year old neutered
male Cairn. The pups are about 10 weeks old and HS says that they are of
good temperment. I've had one vet already warn me off this combo. He says
he's put two down Â* from good families, mind Â* this pas year alone, and even
if it weren't a mean dog, it would probably be too big (he said it could
possibly go 70-75 lbs) for Jack the Cairn to feel comfortable around.
Another vet says that if the HS's behaviorist gives them good marks, it'll
all be in the socialization-treatment of the dog. Personally, I'm wary.


Unless you know that the sire and/or dam have temperament problems, you can't
make assumptions about temperament in this breed mix. Size, yes - it will
probably be a pretty big dog. But plenty of dogs of differing sizes cohabitate
together without a problem. I agree with the second vet - socialization and
training are far more important than the breed mix.

Also, I've been given conflicting advice, sexwise. Some say if we bring in
a female, all will be ducky. Others say we want a male, as Jack will be
able to do the alpha thing early Â* before the dog got big enough to kick his
little Scottish butt Â* and then be drinking buddies later on.


With a female, there will be less chance of shoulder-punching going on in the
first place. Doing the "alpha thing early" won't make a difference - if
there's going to be problems between them, it will happen when the new dog
begins to mature, not while he's a baby.
Canine Action Dog Trainer
http://www.canineaction.com
My Kids, My Students, My Life:
http://hometown.aol.com/dfrntdrums/m...age/index.html


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Old September 3rd 04, 04:12 PM
Leah
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Michael Hudson wrote:
The local humane society has a
litter of German Shepherd/Pit Bull (with maybe a dash of Husky, they say)
puppies and my son wants one. I'm the guy with the nine year old neutered
male Cairn. The pups are about 10 weeks old and HS says that they are of
good temperment. I've had one vet already warn me off this combo. He says
he's put two down Â* from good families, mind Â* this pas year alone, and even
if it weren't a mean dog, it would probably be too big (he said it could
possibly go 70-75 lbs) for Jack the Cairn to feel comfortable around.
Another vet says that if the HS's behaviorist gives them good marks, it'll
all be in the socialization-treatment of the dog. Personally, I'm wary.


Unless you know that the sire and/or dam have temperament problems, you can't
make assumptions about temperament in this breed mix. Size, yes - it will
probably be a pretty big dog. But plenty of dogs of differing sizes cohabitate
together without a problem. I agree with the second vet - socialization and
training are far more important than the breed mix.

Also, I've been given conflicting advice, sexwise. Some say if we bring in
a female, all will be ducky. Others say we want a male, as Jack will be
able to do the alpha thing early Â* before the dog got big enough to kick his
little Scottish butt Â* and then be drinking buddies later on.


With a female, there will be less chance of shoulder-punching going on in the
first place. Doing the "alpha thing early" won't make a difference - if
there's going to be problems between them, it will happen when the new dog
begins to mature, not while he's a baby.
Canine Action Dog Trainer
http://www.canineaction.com
My Kids, My Students, My Life:
http://hometown.aol.com/dfrntdrums/m...age/index.html


 




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