Beau the collie is on a homecooked diet. He is losing his hair, much more
than seasonal molting. Anyway, isn't this the time the coat should be
thickening?

He's lost a lot of weight too. That's probably OK. Now he is
"slender-normal", about 65-70 lbs.

I've read about dog nutrition, and he gets about a third each of vegetables,
meat (beef or chicken, no fat) and white rice, supplemented with a
multivitamin.

He's on this diet because of his pancreatitis.

He has epilepsy and gets 120 mg. PB and 2 ml. KBr per day, and I add a milk
thistle to this.

What could be the problem, assuming this is not seasonal shedding? Could he
need more fat? I am afraid of working his pancreas too hard.

Should I add lipids like Lipiderm?

I really hesitate to go back to a commercial diet because of the pancreas,
but perhaps it would be best to gradually introduce commercial foods.

His thyroid was supposedly tested when he had his last neuro visit.

Thanks in advance.

"Betsy" -0 wrote in message
...
I've read about dog nutrition, and he gets about a third each of
vegetables,
meat (beef or chicken, no fat) and white rice, supplemented with a
multivitamin.

........Are you following some kind of recipes? Where's the calcium in this
diet?

buglady
take out the dog before replying

"Betsy" -0 wrote in message
...
I've read about dog nutrition, and he gets about a third each of
vegetables,
meat (beef or chicken, no fat) and white rice, supplemented with a
multivitamin.

........Are you following some kind of recipes? Where's the calcium in this
diet?

buglady
take out the dog before replying

"Betsy" -0 wrote in message
...
Beau the collie is on a homecooked diet. He is losing his hair, much more
than seasonal molting. Anyway, isn't this the time the coat should be
thickening?


I have always heard that it is very difficult to make homecooked diets for
dogs that provide all the nutrients they need for good health. I am not a
nutritionist, but the diet you describe doesn't sound well balanced. If it
were my dog, I would talk to my vet and and find out what the actual dietary
restrictions are for the pancreatitis (is this a forever condition?) and
switch to an appropriate commercial food. You may be doing more harm than
good with what you're feeding now.

Margaret

"Betsy" -0 wrote in message
...
Beau the collie is on a homecooked diet. He is losing his hair, much more
than seasonal molting. Anyway, isn't this the time the coat should be
thickening?


I have always heard that it is very difficult to make homecooked diets for
dogs that provide all the nutrients they need for good health. I am not a
nutritionist, but the diet you describe doesn't sound well balanced. If it
were my dog, I would talk to my vet and and find out what the actual dietary
restrictions are for the pancreatitis (is this a forever condition?) and
switch to an appropriate commercial food. You may be doing more harm than
good with what you're feeding now.

Margaret

Betsy,

What type of multi vitamin are you providing?
Are you feeding any supplement that is geared to coat and skin? Any use of
Omega-3 and Omega-6 fats?


--
Jeremy Lowe
www.healthypetnet.com/jeremy

Have you hugged your pet today?
"Betsy" -0 wrote in message
...
Beau the collie is on a homecooked diet. He is losing his hair, much more
than seasonal molting. Anyway, isn't this the time the coat should be
thickening?

He's lost a lot of weight too. That's probably OK. Now he is
"slender-normal", about 65-70 lbs.

I've read about dog nutrition, and he gets about a third each of
vegetables,
meat (beef or chicken, no fat) and white rice, supplemented with a
multivitamin.

He's on this diet because of his pancreatitis.

He has epilepsy and gets 120 mg. PB and 2 ml. KBr per day, and I add a
milk
thistle to this.

What could be the problem, assuming this is not seasonal shedding? Could
he
need more fat? I am afraid of working his pancreas too hard.

Should I add lipids like Lipiderm?

I really hesitate to go back to a commercial diet because of the pancreas,
but perhaps it would be best to gradually introduce commercial foods.

His thyroid was supposedly tested when he had his last neuro visit.

Thanks in advance.

Betsy,

What type of multi vitamin are you providing?
Are you feeding any supplement that is geared to coat and skin? Any use of
Omega-3 and Omega-6 fats?


--
Jeremy Lowe
www.healthypetnet.com/jeremy

Have you hugged your pet today?
"Betsy" -0 wrote in message
...
Beau the collie is on a homecooked diet. He is losing his hair, much more
than seasonal molting. Anyway, isn't this the time the coat should be
thickening?

He's lost a lot of weight too. That's probably OK. Now he is
"slender-normal", about 65-70 lbs.

I've read about dog nutrition, and he gets about a third each of
vegetables,
meat (beef or chicken, no fat) and white rice, supplemented with a
multivitamin.

He's on this diet because of his pancreatitis.

He has epilepsy and gets 120 mg. PB and 2 ml. KBr per day, and I add a
milk
thistle to this.

What could be the problem, assuming this is not seasonal shedding? Could
he
need more fat? I am afraid of working his pancreas too hard.

Should I add lipids like Lipiderm?

I really hesitate to go back to a commercial diet because of the pancreas,
but perhaps it would be best to gradually introduce commercial foods.

His thyroid was supposedly tested when he had his last neuro visit.

Thanks in advance.

"Betsy" -0 wrote in message ...

Betsy - go see your vet and be sure to tell him/her EXACTLY what
you've been doing so s/he can make a reasonable diagnosis.

"Betsy" -0 wrote in message ...

Betsy - go see your vet and be sure to tell him/her EXACTLY what
you've been doing so s/he can make a reasonable diagnosis.

Dear Betsy,
I would agree with the others in this string in that home-made diets are
REALLY hard to make balanced and provide everything that is needed for a
dog. My guess would be that you may inadvertantly (sp?) have your diet a
little lacking in something. What, I cannot tell you. There are several
commercial diets on the market that your vet can point you to that are
balanced and tasty for dogs with GI complications such as pancreatitis. We
feed Purina EN at our clinic which, according to the Purina people, is a
complete and balanced diet and can be used long-term. It is basically an
easily-digestible diet that hopefully won't get your dog's pancreas ticked
off at him. You may also want to check a thyroid level again, and liver
enzymes if he is on phenobarb. Thyroid and liver conditions can affect the
skin in strange ways.
Hope that helps!
Sincerely,
Matt
"Betsy" -0 wrote in message
...
Beau the collie is on a homecooked diet. He is losing his hair, much more
than seasonal molting. Anyway, isn't this the time the coat should be
thickening?

He's lost a lot of weight too. That's probably OK. Now he is
"slender-normal", about 65-70 lbs.

I've read about dog nutrition, and he gets about a third each of
vegetables,
meat (beef or chicken, no fat) and white rice, supplemented with a
multivitamin.

He's on this diet because of his pancreatitis.

He has epilepsy and gets 120 mg. PB and 2 ml. KBr per day, and I add a
milk
thistle to this.

What could be the problem, assuming this is not seasonal shedding? Could
he
need more fat? I am afraid of working his pancreas too hard.

Should I add lipids like Lipiderm?

I really hesitate to go back to a commercial diet because of the pancreas,
but perhaps it would be best to gradually introduce commercial foods.

His thyroid was supposedly tested when he had his last neuro visit.

Thanks in advance.