I've had my Lab puppy for two weeks now and he still doesn't seem to
make any distinction between peeing inside or outside. I'm really
struggling with this, because we don't seem to be making ANY progress.
hopefully, I'm the one doing something wrong and we can get headed in
the right direction.

he sleeps in his crate at night
we get up at 7:30 to go out and potty
at 8:00, he has breakfast in his crate and goes out about 8:30
same thing for lunch at 12:00
then dinner about 5:00
he gets water again at around 8:30

between those times, he doesn't get food or water. he is either
outside, in his crate, or I am watching him at every moment. so it's
not as if he's peeing in the house and I'm finding it later. he does
it right in front of me. sometimes ten seconds after we come in from
outdoors. it's also not like he's hiding or thinks he's done anything
wrong. he just pees when he gets the urge, no matter where he is.
well, I take that back, he doesn't eliminate in his crate.

when I do see him pee in the house, I yell "no! no!", immediately
pick him up and take him to the back door and say something like "we
potty outside" or "go potty". when I see him potty outside I always
make a point to praise him. #2 hasn't been a problem, just the
peeing. I've never scolded him for peeing inside, I just try to
startle him into stopping when I catch him in the act.

so what do you guys think? how can I get this turned around and going
in a positive direction?

Keep some small treats by your back door and pocket a couple for each trip
outside. Don't show them to him, just wait until he goes potty then, while
he's in the act "good boy, potty! dog's name potty!" in a happy voice.
The minute he finishes praise him again and give the treat.

Praise alone, what you are doing, is a very good method but some dogs need a
little extra incentive, particularly puppies. He'll begin to associate
pottying outside with getting a treat vs pottying inside doesn't get a
treat.

Also, buy some Nature's Miracle online or at a local pet supply store. Its
an enzyme cleaner that removes the stain *and* the odor urine can leave
behind. Compared to all the other products on the market this one really is
a "miracle." Removing the odor from the places he's urinated will also help
in the housetraining process. As long as puppies can smell a urination spot
(this applies to older dogs new to the home as well) in the house a part of
their brain may keep thinking its ok to go inside.

--
Tara

Keep some small treats by your back door and pocket a couple for each trip
outside. Don't show them to him, just wait until he goes potty then, while
he's in the act "good boy, potty! dog's name potty!" in a happy voice.
The minute he finishes praise him again and give the treat.

Praise alone, what you are doing, is a very good method but some dogs need a
little extra incentive, particularly puppies. He'll begin to associate
pottying outside with getting a treat vs pottying inside doesn't get a
treat.

Also, buy some Nature's Miracle online or at a local pet supply store. Its
an enzyme cleaner that removes the stain *and* the odor urine can leave
behind. Compared to all the other products on the market this one really is
a "miracle." Removing the odor from the places he's urinated will also help
in the housetraining process. As long as puppies can smell a urination spot
(this applies to older dogs new to the home as well) in the house a part of
their brain may keep thinking its ok to go inside.

--
Tara

(Bill) wrote:
I've had my Lab puppy for two weeks now and he still doesn't seem to
make any distinction between peeing inside or outside.

How old is he?

Here's a guide on potty-training:
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(Bill) wrote:
I've had my Lab puppy for two weeks now and he still doesn't seem to
make any distinction between peeing inside or outside.

How old is he?

Here's a guide on potty-training:
http://hometown.aol.com/dfrntdrums/potty-training.html

Canine Action Dog Trainer
http://www.canineaction.com
My Kids, My Students, My Life:
http://hometown.aol.com/dfrntdrums/m...age/index.html
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he does
it right in front of me. sometimes ten seconds after we come in from
outdoors. it's also not like he's hiding or thinks he's done anything
wrong. he just pees when he gets the urge, no matter where he is.


good luck, I have this exact problem since the 3rd week in August and his is
still not getting it as well as he should

he does
it right in front of me. sometimes ten seconds after we come in from
outdoors. it's also not like he's hiding or thinks he's done anything
wrong. he just pees when he gets the urge, no matter where he is.


good luck, I have this exact problem since the 3rd week in August and his is
still not getting it as well as he should

"MauiJNP" wrote:
good luck, I have this exact problem since the 3rd week in August and his is
still not getting it as well as he should


Waitaminnit, guys. Just how quickly do you think your pups "should" be
housebroken?

The "norm" is different for different types of pups. Especially if you're not
giving the dogs clear messages and allowing opportunity for mistakes, you can
sometimes count on several months or longer. Many pups who are housebroken in
just a couple of weeks have had a head start with the breeder.

And they also don't get housebroken very quickly if you give them too much
freedom too fast. They will follow a progression of not eliminating in their
immediate area, to the room they spend the most time in, and then to the rest
of the house in small increments.

Plus you have to take into account their ages. Young pups aren't physically
able to hold it for a long period of time, or even a short period of time when
they're very active.

How long does it take children to get toilet trained? And *they* understand
English.

Patience, persistence, and consistency is the key.

Canine Action Dog Trainer
http://www.canineaction.com
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"MauiJNP" wrote:
good luck, I have this exact problem since the 3rd week in August and his is
still not getting it as well as he should


Waitaminnit, guys. Just how quickly do you think your pups "should" be
housebroken?

The "norm" is different for different types of pups. Especially if you're not
giving the dogs clear messages and allowing opportunity for mistakes, you can
sometimes count on several months or longer. Many pups who are housebroken in
just a couple of weeks have had a head start with the breeder.

And they also don't get housebroken very quickly if you give them too much
freedom too fast. They will follow a progression of not eliminating in their
immediate area, to the room they spend the most time in, and then to the rest
of the house in small increments.

Plus you have to take into account their ages. Young pups aren't physically
able to hold it for a long period of time, or even a short period of time when
they're very active.

How long does it take children to get toilet trained? And *they* understand
English.

Patience, persistence, and consistency is the key.

Canine Action Dog Trainer
http://www.canineaction.com
My Kids, My Students, My Life:
http://hometown.aol.com/dfrntdrums/m...age/index.html
Build Your Immune System, Lose Weight
http://www.re-vita.net/dfrntdrums

"Bill" wrote in message
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when I do see him pee in the house, I yell "no! no!", immediately
pick him up and take him to the back door and say something like "we
potty outside" or "go potty". when I see him potty outside I always
make a point to praise him. #2 hasn't been a problem, just the
peeing. I've never scolded him for peeing inside, I just try to
startle him into stopping when I catch him in the act.

so what do you guys think? how can I get this turned around and going
in a positive direction?

It took my Lab pup about 6 months to be semi-reliable and another 6 months
for me to completely trust him. It took him a good month to figure out that
we actually wanted him to pee OUTSIDE and not pee inside. It's just about
repitition and being diligent about correcting him EVERY time. Expect him
to start to "get it" at about 3-4 months of age and become semi-reliable at
about 7 months, IF you stick to a schedule.

He also took about 3 weeks to "get" that he was suppossed to start crying
BEFORE he did #2 in his crate at night. (He'd wake up, go, and THEN cry
because he was sitting in his own waste.)

Also remember that they won't want to "go" in their den. The whole house is
not his den--just the places he spends a lot of time. When I brought my pup
home, we lived in a 2-story/3 bedroom apartment. He'd run to the front of
the apartment, or into a spare bedroom, to "go" instead of alerting me.
When we downsized into a 1br 1story, it "clicked" as the whole place was his
den. So if you restrict him to areas he spends a lot of time, and slowly
work him up to more space (spending more time in the less-used areas until
they're "his") it will go quicker.

--
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