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Old October 26th 04, 11:48 PM
Theresa
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My Heart goes out to the Troy family for the great loss and misfortune
of their beloved pet, Sheea. I too had the misfortune of the cold and
callous operatings of PACCA. Last year my mother became very
ill--rapidly losing weight and growing weaker by the day. While
waiting for test results, I offered my Mother to come live with me (I
knew she was very sick and was going to need care). She was severely
allergic to cats and I knew I would have to somehow find a home for my
three year old half persian, Baby. I called several friends--all who
could not take her. Several days later I got the news that my mother
had terminal lung cancer and did not have long to live. I went to her
home every day until I could move her in. But that would not be until
I find Baby a home, even a temporary one. That was not happening. One
morning my Mother called me. She sounded very bad. I knew I had to
take action and get her in my home. We talked about what to do.
Someone she knew told her that PACCA places their cats at PetSmart,
and being that she was a white, half persian, she would be adopted
quickly. So off to PACCA I went. I dropped her off a few minutes after
12:00 noon. Not to long after I got home I was overcome with grief and
called PACCA. I got a recording saying to call back during their
regular business hours (something like 9:00 to 6:00). It still early
afternoon! I kept calling for several hours, still getting the same
recording. I called again the next day from work and finally got a
live person. A woman quickly told me that she had been put down. I was
hysterical--asking the woman why-how? She said that I signed a paper
saying that they can do with the animal as they see fit then, hung up
on me. I called back when I got home only to find out that Baby had
been put down 15 minutes after she was dropped off. What happened to
the 48 hour waiting period? How many people drop off their beloved pet
due to desperate circumstances and end up calling or going back to
retrieve them? It has been a little over a year, and I still grieve my
Baby. She was the most sweetest, loving cat I have ever known.
I blame myself, in-part, because deep in the back of my mind I knew
that her death was a possibility. But, I thought (or convinced myself)
that her being friendly and beautiful would grant her a showing at a
Petsmart.
I want to say to everyone--When it comes to your pet, loved one, or
anything concerning their well-being, research, ask questions. Don't
just assume things will go your way.
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Old October 27th 04, 05:35 PM
Rich
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"Theresa" wrote in message
m...
My Heart goes out to the Troy family for the great loss and misfortune
of their beloved pet, Sheea. I too had the misfortune of the cold and
callous operatings of PACCA. Last year my mother became very
ill--rapidly losing weight and growing weaker by the day. While
waiting for test results, I offered my Mother to come live with me (I
knew she was very sick and was going to need care). She was severely
allergic to cats and I knew I would have to somehow find a home for my
three year old half persian, Baby. I called several friends--all who
could not take her. Several days later I got the news that my mother
had terminal lung cancer and did not have long to live. I went to her
home every day until I could move her in. But that would not be until
I find Baby a home, even a temporary one. That was not happening. One
morning my Mother called me. She sounded very bad. I knew I had to
take action and get her in my home. We talked about what to do.
Someone she knew told her that PACCA places their cats at PetSmart,
and being that she was a white, half persian, she would be adopted
quickly. So off to PACCA I went. I dropped her off a few minutes after
12:00 noon. Not to long after I got home I was overcome with grief and
called PACCA. I got a recording saying to call back during their
regular business hours (something like 9:00 to 6:00). It still early
afternoon! I kept calling for several hours, still getting the same
recording. I called again the next day from work and finally got a
live person. A woman quickly told me that she had been put down. I was
hysterical--asking the woman why-how? She said that I signed a paper
saying that they can do with the animal as they see fit then, hung up
on me. I called back when I got home only to find out that Baby had
been put down 15 minutes after she was dropped off. What happened to
the 48 hour waiting period? How many people drop off their beloved pet
due to desperate circumstances and end up calling or going back to
retrieve them? It has been a little over a year, and I still grieve my
Baby. She was the most sweetest, loving cat I have ever known.
I blame myself, in-part, because deep in the back of my mind I knew
that her death was a possibility. But, I thought (or convinced myself)
that her being friendly and beautiful would grant her a showing at a
Petsmart.
I want to say to everyone--When it comes to your pet, loved one, or
anything concerning their well-being, research, ask questions. Don't
just assume things will go your way.


Wow, what a sad story, and how hard on you to lose a cat and have your
mother be so ill. I'm so sorry to hear this. You know, your moral to the
story about "asking questions" is true about a lot of things. A member of
our family was told she had cancer, and it turned out NOT to be cancer. She
found out because she went to a research hospital and ASKED QUESTIONS. The
"professionals" should not run our lives, IMO.
-Rich


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Old October 27th 04, 05:35 PM
Rich
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"Theresa" wrote in message
m...
My Heart goes out to the Troy family for the great loss and misfortune
of their beloved pet, Sheea. I too had the misfortune of the cold and
callous operatings of PACCA. Last year my mother became very
ill--rapidly losing weight and growing weaker by the day. While
waiting for test results, I offered my Mother to come live with me (I
knew she was very sick and was going to need care). She was severely
allergic to cats and I knew I would have to somehow find a home for my
three year old half persian, Baby. I called several friends--all who
could not take her. Several days later I got the news that my mother
had terminal lung cancer and did not have long to live. I went to her
home every day until I could move her in. But that would not be until
I find Baby a home, even a temporary one. That was not happening. One
morning my Mother called me. She sounded very bad. I knew I had to
take action and get her in my home. We talked about what to do.
Someone she knew told her that PACCA places their cats at PetSmart,
and being that she was a white, half persian, she would be adopted
quickly. So off to PACCA I went. I dropped her off a few minutes after
12:00 noon. Not to long after I got home I was overcome with grief and
called PACCA. I got a recording saying to call back during their
regular business hours (something like 9:00 to 6:00). It still early
afternoon! I kept calling for several hours, still getting the same
recording. I called again the next day from work and finally got a
live person. A woman quickly told me that she had been put down. I was
hysterical--asking the woman why-how? She said that I signed a paper
saying that they can do with the animal as they see fit then, hung up
on me. I called back when I got home only to find out that Baby had
been put down 15 minutes after she was dropped off. What happened to
the 48 hour waiting period? How many people drop off their beloved pet
due to desperate circumstances and end up calling or going back to
retrieve them? It has been a little over a year, and I still grieve my
Baby. She was the most sweetest, loving cat I have ever known.
I blame myself, in-part, because deep in the back of my mind I knew
that her death was a possibility. But, I thought (or convinced myself)
that her being friendly and beautiful would grant her a showing at a
Petsmart.
I want to say to everyone--When it comes to your pet, loved one, or
anything concerning their well-being, research, ask questions. Don't
just assume things will go your way.


Wow, what a sad story, and how hard on you to lose a cat and have your
mother be so ill. I'm so sorry to hear this. You know, your moral to the
story about "asking questions" is true about a lot of things. A member of
our family was told she had cancer, and it turned out NOT to be cancer. She
found out because she went to a research hospital and ASKED QUESTIONS. The
"professionals" should not run our lives, IMO.
-Rich


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Old October 28th 04, 12:22 PM
John
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Theresa wrote:
My Heart goes out to the Troy family for the great loss and misfortune
of their beloved pet, Sheea. I too had the misfortune of the cold and
callous operatings of PACCA. Last year my mother became very
ill--rapidly losing weight and growing weaker by the day. While
waiting for test results, I offered my Mother to come live with me (I
knew she was very sick and was going to need care). She was severely
allergic to cats and I knew I would have to somehow find a home for my
three year old half persian, Baby. I called several friends--all who
could not take her. Several days later I got the news that my mother
had terminal lung cancer and did not have long to live. I went to her
home every day until I could move her in. But that would not be until
I find Baby a home, even a temporary one. That was not happening. One
morning my Mother called me. She sounded very bad. I knew I had to
take action and get her in my home. We talked about what to do.
Someone she knew told her that PACCA places their cats at PetSmart,
and being that she was a white, half persian, she would be adopted
quickly. So off to PACCA I went. I dropped her off a few minutes after
12:00 noon. Not to long after I got home I was overcome with grief and
called PACCA. I got a recording saying to call back during their
regular business hours (something like 9:00 to 6:00). It still early
afternoon! I kept calling for several hours, still getting the same
recording. I called again the next day from work and finally got a
live person. A woman quickly told me that she had been put down. I was
hysterical--asking the woman why-how? She said that I signed a paper
saying that they can do with the animal as they see fit then, hung up
on me. I called back when I got home only to find out that Baby had
been put down 15 minutes after she was dropped off. What happened to
the 48 hour waiting period? How many people drop off their beloved pet
due to desperate circumstances and end up calling or going back to
retrieve them? It has been a little over a year, and I still grieve my
Baby. She was the most sweetest, loving cat I have ever known.
I blame myself, in-part, because deep in the back of my mind I knew
that her death was a possibility. But, I thought (or convinced myself)
that her being friendly and beautiful would grant her a showing at a
Petsmart.
I want to say to everyone--When it comes to your pet, loved one, or
anything concerning their well-being, research, ask questions. Don't
just assume things will go your way.


Theresa,

Just remember that some of the less intelligent posters to this group
think that is called euthanasia. I would quite happily use a lethal
injection on the idiot who authorised the immediate killing of that cat.

sarcasm
Why answer the phones when there are animals to kill?
/sarcasm

In my book, if you are going to kill an animal straight away like that,
the owner should be present (anything else is moral cowardice). I feel
sorry for you and for your pet. I'm sure you'll make sure it doesn't
happen again.

John
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Old October 28th 04, 12:22 PM
John
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Theresa wrote:
My Heart goes out to the Troy family for the great loss and misfortune
of their beloved pet, Sheea. I too had the misfortune of the cold and
callous operatings of PACCA. Last year my mother became very
ill--rapidly losing weight and growing weaker by the day. While
waiting for test results, I offered my Mother to come live with me (I
knew she was very sick and was going to need care). She was severely
allergic to cats and I knew I would have to somehow find a home for my
three year old half persian, Baby. I called several friends--all who
could not take her. Several days later I got the news that my mother
had terminal lung cancer and did not have long to live. I went to her
home every day until I could move her in. But that would not be until
I find Baby a home, even a temporary one. That was not happening. One
morning my Mother called me. She sounded very bad. I knew I had to
take action and get her in my home. We talked about what to do.
Someone she knew told her that PACCA places their cats at PetSmart,
and being that she was a white, half persian, she would be adopted
quickly. So off to PACCA I went. I dropped her off a few minutes after
12:00 noon. Not to long after I got home I was overcome with grief and
called PACCA. I got a recording saying to call back during their
regular business hours (something like 9:00 to 6:00). It still early
afternoon! I kept calling for several hours, still getting the same
recording. I called again the next day from work and finally got a
live person. A woman quickly told me that she had been put down. I was
hysterical--asking the woman why-how? She said that I signed a paper
saying that they can do with the animal as they see fit then, hung up
on me. I called back when I got home only to find out that Baby had
been put down 15 minutes after she was dropped off. What happened to
the 48 hour waiting period? How many people drop off their beloved pet
due to desperate circumstances and end up calling or going back to
retrieve them? It has been a little over a year, and I still grieve my
Baby. She was the most sweetest, loving cat I have ever known.
I blame myself, in-part, because deep in the back of my mind I knew
that her death was a possibility. But, I thought (or convinced myself)
that her being friendly and beautiful would grant her a showing at a
Petsmart.
I want to say to everyone--When it comes to your pet, loved one, or
anything concerning their well-being, research, ask questions. Don't
just assume things will go your way.


Theresa,

Just remember that some of the less intelligent posters to this group
think that is called euthanasia. I would quite happily use a lethal
injection on the idiot who authorised the immediate killing of that cat.

sarcasm
Why answer the phones when there are animals to kill?
/sarcasm

In my book, if you are going to kill an animal straight away like that,
the owner should be present (anything else is moral cowardice). I feel
sorry for you and for your pet. I'm sure you'll make sure it doesn't
happen again.

John
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Old October 29th 04, 07:06 AM
Fluttervale Labradors
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"Theresa" wrote in message
m...
My Heart goes out to the Troy family for the great loss and misfortune
of their beloved pet, Sheea. I too had the misfortune of the cold and
callous operatings of PACCA. Last year my mother became very
ill--rapidly losing weight and growing weaker by the day. While
waiting for test results, I offered my Mother to come live with me (I
knew she was very sick and was going to need care). She was severely
allergic to cats and I knew I would have to somehow find a home for my
three year old half persian, Baby. I called several friends--all who
could not take her. Several days later I got the news that my mother
had terminal lung cancer and did not have long to live. I went to her
home every day until I could move her in. But that would not be until
I find Baby a home, even a temporary one. That was not happening. One
morning my Mother called me. She sounded very bad. I knew I had to
take action and get her in my home. We talked about what to do.
Someone she knew told her that PACCA places their cats at PetSmart,
and being that she was a white, half persian, she would be adopted
quickly. So off to PACCA I went. I dropped her off a few minutes after
12:00 noon. Not to long after I got home I was overcome with grief and
called PACCA. I got a recording saying to call back during their
regular business hours (something like 9:00 to 6:00). It still early
afternoon! I kept calling for several hours, still getting the same
recording. I called again the next day from work and finally got a
live person. A woman quickly told me that she had been put down. I was
hysterical--asking the woman why-how? She said that I signed a paper
saying that they can do with the animal as they see fit then, hung up
on me. I called back when I got home only to find out that Baby had
been put down 15 minutes after she was dropped off. What happened to
the 48 hour waiting period? How many people drop off their beloved pet
due to desperate circumstances and end up calling or going back to
retrieve them? It has been a little over a year, and I still grieve my
Baby. She was the most sweetest, loving cat I have ever known.
I blame myself, in-part, because deep in the back of my mind I knew
that her death was a possibility. But, I thought (or convinced myself)
that her being friendly and beautiful would grant her a showing at a
Petsmart.
I want to say to everyone--When it comes to your pet, loved one, or
anything concerning their well-being, research, ask questions. Don't
just assume things will go your way.


What the heck did you think would happen to her?

Shelters deal with literally thousands of unwanted cats DAILY throughout the
US. Probably thousands a month in that shelter alone!

If you wanted the cat to stay alive, you should've boarded her until you
could get your mother into a nursing home or she passed. Shelters aren't
boarding kennels. They are facing hundreds of animals a week that were
brought into this world for NO PURPOSE and without a second thought by the
"owners" of these animals. Thousands of "friendly" and "beautiful" animals
are killed every day because of callous people who think that they will find
a new home.

Shelters must hold strays for several days before euthanizing them. In some
shelters, 75-95% of the space AVAILABLE is filled with strays being held for
the required length of time (3 days, 7 days, sometimes 10 or 14 days).
There simply is no PLACE to put owner turn-ins. In many shelters
(especially in large cities) much of the space is also taken up by animals
who were taken away from their owners and must be held until the court case
is seen through.

I understand that your mother is more important than any pet--but do not
blame the shelter for doing what they have to do. It's not the shelter's
fault your cat was there, it was YOUR fault.

~Emily


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Old October 29th 04, 07:06 AM
Fluttervale Labradors
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"Theresa" wrote in message
m...
My Heart goes out to the Troy family for the great loss and misfortune
of their beloved pet, Sheea. I too had the misfortune of the cold and
callous operatings of PACCA. Last year my mother became very
ill--rapidly losing weight and growing weaker by the day. While
waiting for test results, I offered my Mother to come live with me (I
knew she was very sick and was going to need care). She was severely
allergic to cats and I knew I would have to somehow find a home for my
three year old half persian, Baby. I called several friends--all who
could not take her. Several days later I got the news that my mother
had terminal lung cancer and did not have long to live. I went to her
home every day until I could move her in. But that would not be until
I find Baby a home, even a temporary one. That was not happening. One
morning my Mother called me. She sounded very bad. I knew I had to
take action and get her in my home. We talked about what to do.
Someone she knew told her that PACCA places their cats at PetSmart,
and being that she was a white, half persian, she would be adopted
quickly. So off to PACCA I went. I dropped her off a few minutes after
12:00 noon. Not to long after I got home I was overcome with grief and
called PACCA. I got a recording saying to call back during their
regular business hours (something like 9:00 to 6:00). It still early
afternoon! I kept calling for several hours, still getting the same
recording. I called again the next day from work and finally got a
live person. A woman quickly told me that she had been put down. I was
hysterical--asking the woman why-how? She said that I signed a paper
saying that they can do with the animal as they see fit then, hung up
on me. I called back when I got home only to find out that Baby had
been put down 15 minutes after she was dropped off. What happened to
the 48 hour waiting period? How many people drop off their beloved pet
due to desperate circumstances and end up calling or going back to
retrieve them? It has been a little over a year, and I still grieve my
Baby. She was the most sweetest, loving cat I have ever known.
I blame myself, in-part, because deep in the back of my mind I knew
that her death was a possibility. But, I thought (or convinced myself)
that her being friendly and beautiful would grant her a showing at a
Petsmart.
I want to say to everyone--When it comes to your pet, loved one, or
anything concerning their well-being, research, ask questions. Don't
just assume things will go your way.


What the heck did you think would happen to her?

Shelters deal with literally thousands of unwanted cats DAILY throughout the
US. Probably thousands a month in that shelter alone!

If you wanted the cat to stay alive, you should've boarded her until you
could get your mother into a nursing home or she passed. Shelters aren't
boarding kennels. They are facing hundreds of animals a week that were
brought into this world for NO PURPOSE and without a second thought by the
"owners" of these animals. Thousands of "friendly" and "beautiful" animals
are killed every day because of callous people who think that they will find
a new home.

Shelters must hold strays for several days before euthanizing them. In some
shelters, 75-95% of the space AVAILABLE is filled with strays being held for
the required length of time (3 days, 7 days, sometimes 10 or 14 days).
There simply is no PLACE to put owner turn-ins. In many shelters
(especially in large cities) much of the space is also taken up by animals
who were taken away from their owners and must be held until the court case
is seen through.

I understand that your mother is more important than any pet--but do not
blame the shelter for doing what they have to do. It's not the shelter's
fault your cat was there, it was YOUR fault.

~Emily


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Old October 29th 04, 12:43 PM
John
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Fluttervale Labradors wrote:
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What the heck did you think would happen to her?


Taking a WILD guess, maybe keep the pet for 48 hrs.

snip

In some
shelters, 75-95% of the space AVAILABLE is filled with strays being held for
the required length of time (3 days, 7 days, sometimes 10 or 14 days).
There simply is no PLACE to put owner turn-ins.


If you can hold strays you can hold "turn-ins".

Maybe if the IDIOT at the shelter had a bit of MORAL FORTITUDE, he/she
would have said to the owner "I'm sorry, we have no space, I'm going to
have to put the animal down immediately".

Instead of which, the COWARDLY, SNIVELLING, PATHETIC EXCUSE for a human
being hid behind a bit of paper and DECEIVED the owner into thinking
that they would at least make some attempt to find a home for the animal.

I think there should be an elementary test on *ETHICS* that will prevent
any CRETIN who believes that this shelter operated ethically from being
able to have any responsibility for any animal. By all means, put them
out the back with a POOPER SCOOPER instead.

snip

I understand that your mother is more important than any pet--but do not
blame the shelter for doing what they have to do. It's not the shelter's
fault your cat was there, it was YOUR fault.


You are lecturing beside the point. The subject was "48 hour waiting
period". Please limit your discussion to the topic or post under a new one.

John

{};~ }
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Old October 29th 04, 12:43 PM
John
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Fluttervale Labradors wrote:
snip

What the heck did you think would happen to her?


Taking a WILD guess, maybe keep the pet for 48 hrs.

snip

In some
shelters, 75-95% of the space AVAILABLE is filled with strays being held for
the required length of time (3 days, 7 days, sometimes 10 or 14 days).
There simply is no PLACE to put owner turn-ins.


If you can hold strays you can hold "turn-ins".

Maybe if the IDIOT at the shelter had a bit of MORAL FORTITUDE, he/she
would have said to the owner "I'm sorry, we have no space, I'm going to
have to put the animal down immediately".

Instead of which, the COWARDLY, SNIVELLING, PATHETIC EXCUSE for a human
being hid behind a bit of paper and DECEIVED the owner into thinking
that they would at least make some attempt to find a home for the animal.

I think there should be an elementary test on *ETHICS* that will prevent
any CRETIN who believes that this shelter operated ethically from being
able to have any responsibility for any animal. By all means, put them
out the back with a POOPER SCOOPER instead.

snip

I understand that your mother is more important than any pet--but do not
blame the shelter for doing what they have to do. It's not the shelter's
fault your cat was there, it was YOUR fault.


You are lecturing beside the point. The subject was "48 hour waiting
period". Please limit your discussion to the topic or post under a new one.

John

{};~ }
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Old October 29th 04, 02:56 PM
Fluttervale Labradors
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"John" no@email wrote in message
...
Fluttervale Labradors wrote:
snip

What the heck did you think would happen to her?


Taking a WILD guess, maybe keep the pet for 48 hrs.

snip

In some
shelters, 75-95% of the space AVAILABLE is filled with strays being held

for
the required length of time (3 days, 7 days, sometimes 10 or 14 days).
There simply is no PLACE to put owner turn-ins.


If you can hold strays you can hold "turn-ins".


But why would you? If all your space is already filled, and the animal is
not required to be held, why put the animal through 48 hours of kitty hell?
It's probably not going to be adopted in that time frame anyways.


Maybe if the IDIOT at the shelter had a bit of MORAL FORTITUDE, he/she
would have said to the owner "I'm sorry, we have no space, I'm going to
have to put the animal down immediately".


I imagine the intake form that the OP signed shows that.

I think there should be an elementary test on *ETHICS* that will prevent
any CRETIN who believes that this shelter operated ethically from being
able to have any responsibility for any animal. By all means, put them
out the back with a POOPER SCOOPER instead.


Unfortunately, ethics is a subjective topic. What you think is ethical
another might think is unethical, and vice versa. There are plenty of
people out there who find the OP's behavior unethical.

I understand that your mother is more important than any pet--but do not
blame the shelter for doing what they have to do. It's not the

shelter's
fault your cat was there, it was YOUR fault.


You are lecturing beside the point. The subject was "48 hour waiting
period". Please limit your discussion to the topic or post under a new

one.

Tell you what. As soon as you have the ability to kick me off this group,
I'll start doing what you tell me to.

~Emily Carroll


 




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