I do not know who gave you this test but as a CGC evaluator the rules
are that a stranger hold the dog by the leash. The dogs are NOT tied
down or grated or x-penned. the CGC evaluator can not change the test
rules in any way. If you go to the AKC web sight you can see the rules
for your self and see that I am telling you the truth. This person
should not be a CGC evaluator...Bob
savaskan wrote:
Nancy E. Holmes wrote:

I still
feel a crate test for leaving a dog alone is an acceptable
alternative
and tying (to a post or a person) isn't.
nancy

In (Cindy Tittle
Moore)
writes:

(Nancy E. Holmes ) writes:

The requirements I thought still required the dog be tied and
left
just
that a person stayed with the dog instead of in the room to
listen
for
noise and watch actions of the unattended dog.

Nope. You hand the leash to the person giving the test and then
leave.
The idea is that you can (say) give your friend the leash to your
dog
and dash into the bank to deposit a check without the dog making a
huge fuss or giving yhour friend a problem.

--Cindy
--

My two Anatolian Shepherd Dogs (ASDs) got their CGCs last December.
The
testers did the tie down test. I tied them down, told them to stay,
and
left around the corner of a building with the tester sitting nearby
to
see that the dog was relatively calm. They did not do the test as
Cindy
described. I did not hand my dogs off, (but could have just as well.)
I
asked the testers about the the ability to use crates as a part of
the
test and they said that it was an option, but I didn't need to. Its
good that mine both tie well, the stake they had was a joke and
either
one of my dogs (95 lb bitch and 140 lb dog) could have ripped it
right
out of the nice soft turf in seconds.

ASDs are considered a very "aloof with strangers" sort of breed. But
if
socialized will accept introduced strangers.

While I think a CGC is nice, I don't think that requiring a CGC is
relevant for ASDs as a breeding requirement, (newly accepted to AKC
in
Misc. June 1). Working ASDs need to be able to be handled by a vet,
but
most of the tests in the CGC are not relevant to the type of work
they
do. Many excellent working livestock guardian dogs cannot deal with a

"dog social" and that is perfectly ok in most LGD breeds. It has
taken
a lot of work for mine to be able to go out and about showing and
being
breed representatives, and then to go home and relax in manure....:-)
I
would rather see health testing required if anything...

Julie Adams - ASDCA, ARBA CH Chomarji's Yuma Sharki, CGC
Savaskan Anatolians - ASDCA, ARBA CH. Sakarya's Alman Kiraz, CGC
http://www.electriciti.com/~savaskan/homepage.html

wrote in
oups.com:

I do not know who gave you this test but as a CGC evaluator the rules
are that a stranger hold the dog by the leash. The dogs are NOT tied
down or grated or x-penned.

Why are you responding to a thread from 1996? FWIW, the original CGC test
did include a tie-out instead of a hand-off. I owned a dog that completed
the (I think it was) 5-minute tie-out instead of a 3-minute handoff.

the CGC evaluator can not change the test
rules in any way. If you go to the AKC web sight you can see the rules
for your self and see that I am telling you the truth. This person
should not be a CGC evaluator...Bob

Mary H Healey wrote in
. 4:

Why are you responding to a thread from 1996?

Because Bob posted through Google.com

They have, apparantly, "updated" the way that groups.google.com handles
things. IIRC, the old software, if the post was over a certain amount of
time old (1 month I think) you couldn't respond.

You can respond to any post now. The interface and a number of other things
have apparantly changed. I post through news.individual.net, so I haven't
seen any of them. However, some groups (news.groups is one) are getting
flooded with people complaining that this is all part of some giant
conspiracy.

However, if you go through the country-specific places (google.ca or
something like that) they are the same.

--
Marcel and Moogli