So I've started doing some work with my border collie (already trained to
chase geese). He has had some time without chasing geese, and now he won't
go all the way to them in the water. How do I train him to keep after them??
He's been successfull in the past. He swims half way out and then turns
around. I hate to be negative when he's in the water. Any advice
appreciated.
Mick

What's the point of him chasing them further into the water unless he's
supposed to catch them?

Celeste

"Mick Ribault" wrote in message
k.net...
So I've started doing some work with my border collie (already trained to
chase geese). He has had some time without chasing geese, and now he won't
go all the way to them in the water. How do I train him to keep after
them??
He's been successfull in the past. He swims half way out and then turns
around. I hate to be negative when he's in the water. Any advice
appreciated.
Mick

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:29:40 GMT Spot whittled these words:
What's the point of him chasing them further into the water unless he's
supposed to catch them?

The idea is to harrass the geese into choosing another home. The
alternative is to kill the geese. It is an increasingly common method of
keeping the density of geese in urban aras to manageble levels. If the
geese only need to go into the water to termnate the chase then they will
learn that and will not leave. If that happens lethal control is the next
alternative. So the idea is for the dog to continue chasing the geese
until they decide the area isbn't safe and they leave. Which means the
dog needs to swim after them. VEry few BOrder Collies are intersted in
actually catching the birds. Their motivation is control and chasing.


"Mick Ribault" wrote in message
k.net...
So I've started doing some work with my border collie (already trained to
chase geese). He has had some time without chasing geese, and now he won't
go all the way to them in the water. How do I train him to keep after
them??
He's been successfull in the past. He swims half way out and then turns
around. I hate to be negative when he's in the water. Any advice
appreciated.

Mick, I don't know the answer to your question. I know someone who has
trained several goose dogs but I've never worked one myself. I recommend
joining the Herders-L group. At least two people experienced in goose
control work post there regularly.

email

the body of the message should have ONLY the following
SUBSCRIBE HERDERS-L yourFirstName yourLastName

(do make sure to put YOUR firstname and YOU last name in, not the words
"yourfirstname" and "yourlastname" - you'd be surprised at how many people
miss that)

And while you are doing that and getting answers from the experienced here
is my thought for you to chew on. As I said above Border Collies are
motivated primarily by the opportunity to control. Is your dog getting
any opportunity to work ducks/geese in a situation where the dog can
actually control them?

Hope to see you and the answer on Herders-L

--
Diane Blackman
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Thanks for the info. He has been coming around.and I've signed up to that
email listserv.
Mick
wrote in message ...
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:29:40 GMT Spot whittled
these words:
What's the point of him chasing them further into the water unless he's
supposed to catch them?

The idea is to harrass the geese into choosing another home. The
alternative is to kill the geese. It is an increasingly common method of
keeping the density of geese in urban aras to manageble levels. If the
geese only need to go into the water to termnate the chase then they will
learn that and will not leave. If that happens lethal control is the next
alternative. So the idea is for the dog to continue chasing the geese
until they decide the area isbn't safe and they leave. Which means the
dog needs to swim after them. VEry few BOrder Collies are intersted in
actually catching the birds. Their motivation is control and chasing.


"Mick Ribault" wrote in message
k.net...
So I've started doing some work with my border collie (already trained
to
chase geese). He has had some time without chasing geese, and now he
won't
go all the way to them in the water. How do I train him to keep after
them??
He's been successfull in the past. He swims half way out and then turns
around. I hate to be negative when he's in the water. Any advice
appreciated.

Mick, I don't know the answer to your question. I know someone who has
trained several goose dogs but I've never worked one myself. I recommend
joining the Herders-L group. At least two people experienced in goose
control work post there regularly.

email

the body of the message should have ONLY the following
SUBSCRIBE HERDERS-L yourFirstName yourLastName

(do make sure to put YOUR firstname and YOU last name in, not the words
"yourfirstname" and "yourlastname" - you'd be surprised at how many people
miss that)

And while you are doing that and getting answers from the experienced here
is my thought for you to chew on. As I said above Border Collies are
motivated primarily by the opportunity to control. Is your dog getting
any opportunity to work ducks/geese in a situation where the dog can
actually control them?

Hope to see you and the answer on Herders-L

--
Diane Blackman
http://dog-play.com/
http://dogplay.com/Shop/