"Jodi" wrote in message
nk.net...
For those of you who go off to work in the mornings, what kind of routine
do
you have for your dogs before you leave the house?

Thanks,
Jodi, who doesn't need an alarm clock now that she has a nine-week-old
Aussie

Hmmm, lessee... Wake up at 7 AM-ish because Mufasa, my South-African mastiff
(28", 148 lb), has gotten himself out from underneath the down blanket. He
paws at me to let him back under the blanket with me, where he'll snuggle up
against my back. He'll do this several times during the night, but I just
fall right asleep as soon as he's tucked in again. But in the morning he'll
decide that he won't let me sleep again, so he'll crawl back out and paw at
me again. Up, mommy!

So up I get, and tea is my first priority. I'll read news and newsgroups on
the net while finishing my tea, then I'll either feed and walk Mufasa, or
I'll walk him first and feed him afterwards. Then, depending on when my
first lecture starts at the U of Oslo, I may have another cup of tea and
spend some more time at the computer. Mufasa will spread himself over the
three-seat sofa and sleep, or he'll lie on the floor if there's a sunny spot
there.

When I leave I don't say anything, I just get dressed, take my bag and head
out the door. If I forget anything and go back, I'll find Mufasa lying in
the hall on a down I've put there for him. But if I leave the bedroom door
open, when I return home after school I'll hear him jump off the bed as I
enter. And he'll greet me with his favorite stuffed toy rabbit in his mouth.
:-)

Rox

"Jodi" wrote in
nk.net:

For those of you who go off to work in the mornings, what kind of
routine do you have for your dogs before you leave the house?

I'm lucky to work from home, but I have a day every week or so that I have
to be out of the house all day. On those days I ensure Orson gets two
bathroom breaks before I leave. One when he wakes up, and another right
before I leave, which would be about an hour after he's eaten.

Orson always gets a treat when I'm leaving. Certain treats (carrots) are
refused only when I'm leaving, evidently not considered a good enough bribe
for his staying alone. I don't blame him; I can't be bribed with vegetables
either.

No matter when or where or how long I'm ever leaving him--in the house, in
the car while I'm doing errands, at someone else's house, or at the
kennel--I always say 'I'll be right back.' I might as well be saying 'mjrty
olegrrt unbyd' but the fact that it's part of a routine tells him what he
needs to know.

Cate

Hi Jodi,

I get up at 5.45 and open the door to let Jake (1 year old Border
Collie) out into the garden. Despite not having "been" since the night
before, he often ignores that option but that's by the by.

I get his lead and we leave the house at 6 am. I'm in the UK and it's
dark but we head for the well lit car park on a park and he chases a
stick for 5-10 minutes. We then walk to the ducks, feed them and head
back home - about 45 minutes. He has his milk then waits outside the
bathroom whilst I shower.

After my shower I put broken up bits of biscuit in an empty water
bottle, squash it up and let him have fun getting them out - he's with
me all the time I am drying my hair, getting ready etc.

I then go down and prepare his treats, fill a cube with a few bits of
cheese or kibble, a teaspoon of peanut butter in Kong and I hide a few
bits of biscuit etc around the hall and kitchen where he stays (and
where his crate is) - this is enough to bring him downstairs. I grab
my bag, give him a big hug and say "won't be long" and off I go.

When I get home 5 hours later at lunch he's in his open crate,
regardless.

I've been so specific in my reply as I have worked hard to make sure
he did have a very set routine which I hoped would comfort him when he
was much younger and I had to leave him - it seems to have worked
Despite having to get up and get ready for work, (what a pain!!) I do
my utmost to make sure he feels he's had a fun couple of hours with me
before I go.

Enjoy your puppy.

Lynda



On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:19:32 GMT, "Jodi"
wrote:

For those of you who go off to work in the mornings, what kind of routine do
you have for your dogs before you leave the house?

Thanks,
Jodi, who doesn't need an alarm clock now that she has a nine-week-old
Aussie

Howdy All,
There is no routine with the adult Salukis, they know how to get out
the doggie doors, they don't want anything to do with getting up at 4am.
Now the puppy is a little different. When I get ready to go to work I
take the little critter out for a short walk and I put him in an x-pen
that is in front of a doggie door so he can get out.

Frank X. Morris
http://community.webtv.net/Sulkhalil/SalukiCornerChime

HOWEDY susan,

Susan Fraser wrote:
No balls,

You talkin abHOWET gentleman jack?

no sticks,

None of you bums got STICK.

no nothing.

INDEEDY. NO NUTHIN.

Well, Shammie is a tennis ball nut.

That so?

She likes "high fly balls"

She's a BIRD DOG.

and is amazing at catching them.

Duh?

And I condone it

What's wrong with chasin balls?

since it gives my DH a game he can play
with her without deteriorating steadiness

You mean for her field work. You think thd
dog would know the difference between
playin grabbass with DH Vs workin the field
dog trial STUFF with you like HOWE you
done so good with your BREED LEASE
SHOWE puppy Boog?

or delivery, etc

Your other dog nearly got disqualified on
accHOWENT of he wouldn't stop SCREAMIN
on line on accHOWENT of YOU HURT HIM
to make him REALLY DIG HOWET to make
his delivery... REMEMBER?

with bumpers.

HAPPY bumpers. The WON you PINCH and
TWIST their ears and toes and shock and jerk
and choke them on pronged spiked pinch choke
collars to make them pick up.

She also likes to play with woobies in the
house and doing treats for cookies.

Whoopie. You jerked and choked and shocked
her into USELESSNESS JUST LIKE HOWE your
pal lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn RUINED her
HAND PICKED SELECTIVELY BRED SAR dog
JIVE. REMEMBER?

Now that she's retired from field trialing, who cares?

You care or you wouldn't of HURT HER for years
trying to get your ribbons and titles. You've posted
HOWE you pinch and twist body parts and shock
and choke and beat your dogs with sticks like lying
frosty dahl teaches us to do.

But while I was chasing the QAA Holy Grail with her,

BWEEEEEEEEEAAAAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

You mean with her and two or three other dogs
you RUINED THE SAME SAME SAME SAME WAY.

I did narrow her focus a lot more.

BWEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAAAA!!!

Your dogs are HYPERACTIVE on accHOWENT of
YOU HURT THEM, susan. You're a sexual Sadist.

And when she began to JAM all the time
but couldn't place to save her neck,

You write to the Click-N-Nick and other clicker
lists. You think bribing dogs is trainin just like
shockin and chokin and beatin them. Anything
goes for a dog lover like you and your pals who'll
do ANY THING to make your dogs SUCCEED
in their fields...

Seems there ain't noWON here who got ANY success.

I DID consider taking away ALL other outlets

On accHOWENT of you don't know HOWE to
TRAIN your RETRIEVER DOG to RETRIEVE.

but field and birds to try to increase her focus

Your dog FAILS for the same same same same
REASON lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's dog
FAILED SAR, for the same same same reason
kwbrown MURDERED her own DEAD DOG
Teena JUST LIKE HOWE tara o. aka tee
MURDERED her own DEAD DOG Summer.

and drive to truly be competitive.

And JUST LIKE HOWE chrisman dinan MURDERED
his DEAD DOG Usal JUST LIKE HOWE Robert Crim
MURDERED his DEAD DOG Fritz.

But then I would wake up with her snuggled at my feet,

JUST LIKE HOWE steve walker's DEAD DOG Sampson
done with his kids...JUST LIKE HOWE that little innocent
fear aggressive DEAD DOG janet boss MURDERED in
"interested in hearing" done with his kids... who loved them.

or she would meet me at the door "purring"
with a woobie in her mouth, or I would look
out the window and spy the sparkle in her
eye as she "fielded" a pop up tennis ball
Steve had let loose, and I would put it off.

That's insane. You'll use ANY EXXXCUSE for FAILURE.

Surely an all around happy dog performs better?

That so? HOWE COME YOU HURT THEM?

But, alas, I have come to believe that when it
comes to retriever field trials, this is not the case

You mean you RUINED IT FOR ALL YOUR DOGS.

(and yes, I'm perfectly willing to admit
this opinion may be just sour grapes).

You mean on accHOWENT of you've RUINED
EVERY FIELD DOG YOU'VE TOUCHED on
accHOWENT of YOU HURT THEM {) ; ~ )

But I think in order to win,

You wouldn't know?

they have to be SO obsessed, SO over-the-top,
SO single minded in focus, instinct and intent

THAT'S HOWE COME YOU HURT YOUR DOGS.

that it is their whole world.

It was yours DESPITE that you didn't have no LUCK.

But YOU HAD FUN HURTIN your dogs.

And their DOGS have to be even worse ;-P

Perhaps if you didn't HURT them they'd WORK?

I do miss the striving and challenge of retriever field trials,

That so? You was just GETTIN STARTED RUININ DOGS.

but I also have to say that I think Shammie and
I have acheived a more balanced and less conditional
level of contentment with life in general since we quit.

You mean, NHOWE that you ain't HUNTIN with your
RETRIEVER HUNTIN DOG on accHOWENT of SHE
DON'T LIKE IT.

Susan, SheBop, Shammie, and Gris-Gris

Adolph Hitler Writes:

From: "The Puppy Wizard"
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 03:50:08 GMT

Subject: How to answer?

HOWEDY susan,

"Susan Fraser" wrote in message
...

Has anyone ever,in the history of this
newsgroup that is a member of the
Shining Path Klub ever_ been convinced?

You mean, convinced that you gotta hurt
and murder dogs to train them? Many of
the PP'ers came from THAT backgrHOWEND
and got sick an tired of choking shocking
crating and murdering dogs like HOWE you
and your pals PREFER.

They just do not have the brain capabilities
of embracing anything other than their own beliefs.

Yeah. 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANT
SUCCESS with EVERY DOG and EVERY HANDLER
and EVERY PROBLEM all over the Whole Wild
World makes it very hard to BELIEVE that any
trainer NEEDS to HURT INTIMIDATE or MURDER
a dog an try to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin.

Elizabeth

elizabeth is a long term incurable lying dog
abusing punk thug coward mental case.

mentioned the list "clicktrain",

You write to that list. You're a sexual sadist.

where the list goddess (Shirley Chong)

shirly shocks and jerks and chokes dogs
on pronged spiked pinch choke collars
when her CRAP HOWES clicker trainin
FAILS.

is fair minded enough

shirly is a dog abusing mental case.

to espouse the use of the other 3 quadrants of OC,

THAT'S INSANE.

even to the point of using an ecollar
for recall and snake proffing.

SEE?

She is still considered a clicker guru,

Only by lying dog abusing mental cases
like you and elizabeth and Master Of
Deception blankman and sinofabitch
and a couple other lying dog abusing
mental cases not wothwhile mentioning.

and through the years she has worn down many
"Shining Path Klub" g members with her candid
acceptance of whatever works the best in the given
situation, including P-, R- and P.

You mean she was able to HOODWINK an
incompetent PP'er. There's PLENTY of 'm.
PP doesn't mean PURE POSITIVE it means
PURE PLEASURE. Positive can mean HURT
the dog in SCIENTIFIC terms.

So, you've got PP'ers who use POSITIVE PUNISHMENT
and withholding bribes callin THAT, Pure Pleasure, or PP.

The Clicker Journal now has *me* writing about
retriever training.

Yeah. You done such a superb job with that
breed lease puppy you RUINED and sold to
a trainer who was just gonna use IT for HUNTIN.

BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

And lord knows I'm not SPK member ;-

Right. You're a dog abusing mental case and sexual sadist.

But the editor (Victoria Farrington) realizes that
there are situations (like in the field with sheep
or birds) where controlling access isn't possible,

That's absurd. You don't CON-TROLL ACCESS
you TRAIN the dog to follow his commands.

and short of that, high-drive dogs

You mean hyperactive HOWETA CON-TROLL
dogs. Hyperactivity or DRIVEN dogs are DRIVEN
CRAZY by repressive force intimidation and bribe
methods.

would spend their lives on leash.

THAT'S INSANE.

The last issue of The Clicker Journal was devoted
to "The Art of Retrieving". And Victoria, brave soul
that she is, printed an article I wrote that described
the steps retriever trainers use to teach a dog the
controled retrieve, aka, the force fetch.

That's INSANE. You HURT your SELECTIVELY
BRED HAND PICKED and TESTED dogs to make
them do the most natural EZiest thing in the Whole
Wild World for a SELECTIVELY BRED HUNTIN
dog to do.

She even printed gasp instructions about pinching
the dog's ear during the process.

You're a MENTAL CASE and so is she.

Now, granted, there is a wide range
of techniques to force fetch a dog,

You mean HURT a SELECTIVELY BRED
HAND PICKED and TESTED dog, like
your pal lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn
and her punk thug coward mental case
pal sindy SADIST MOOREON:

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

and obviously I described the least aversive
for this clicker audience.

That so? ObviHOWESLY if you're gonna use
AVERSIVES you've got to make them AVERSIVE
ENOUGH to WORK THE FIRST TIME or you're
REINFORCING the BAD BEHAVIOR.

So obviHOWESLY you not tellin those PP'ers
HOWE to PUPPERLY HURT and INTIMIDATE
their dogs, you've done them a DISSERVICE.

But the fact remains that

Force training JERRYIZES dogs and GETS THEM DEAD.

Like your pal kwbrown's DEAD DOG Teena.

REMEMBER?

the clicker aficianodos got the issue,

The clicker freaks are incompetent blowhards
like you and shirly and the rest of these lying
dog abusing mental cases.

and I haven't received a single piece of hate mail ;-

That's on accHOWENT of your audience are cowards
or they'd HURT and INTIMDATE their dogs like HOWE
you and your pals here PREFER.

Gary Wilkes

gary wilkes hugely IMPRESSED professor SCRUFF|
SHAKE dermer with his DELAYED PUNISHMENT on
accHOWENT of his CLICKER TRAINING FAILS 10%
of the time on accHOWENT of THAT is the NATURE
of the beast, according to the Government AccHOWENTING
office when they asked the Marine Mammals Corps
to EXXXPLAIN HOWE COME they lost 10% of their
PROFESSIONALLY CLICKER TRAINED CRITTERS.

BWEEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

had an article in TCJ a while ago wherin he
espoused the use of P in teaching shelter
dogs because it is the most expedient way
in many cases,

gary is a dog abusing mental case.

and the dogs lives are at stake

So that means HURT and INTIMIDATE them
like your pal lying "I LOVE KOEHELR" lynn:

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.
- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.


Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."


Lynn K.
---------------------------------



so there is no time to dance around its use.


That's INSANE.


So, Suja, you might want to point these "cutting edge"
tendencies of the mainstream of clicker training.


Clicker training FAILS on accHOWENT of
it relies on BRIBERY GREED and withholding
bribes and rewards to elicit mindless meaningless
unthinking behaviors in return for a cookie.


And if dane-guy wants to stay mired in the
backwater eddies of his own preconceived
notions, there's nothing you can do.


suja could direct him to The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual and he'd have 100% TOTAL
NON PHYSICAL CON-TROLL NEARLY INSTANTLY.


(Well, you could suggest he subscribe to The
Clicker Journal and I'll promise to have smoke
coming out of his ears about 6 times a year ;-)


Yeah. Thanks for the warnin.


Susan Fraser, owned and trained by
Satan HISSELF


Sado Sexual Dog Training By susan fraser -
"Reasons To Earpinch"

" Was: more assistance at becoming an "agility gal"


HOWEDY susan,



"Susan Fraser" wrote in message


...


Resistance is futile.

Yes, Janet, it's true.



Yeah. But you mental cases don't wanna believe it.


For years I would dabble a bit in agility, but I always
managed to pull out just before total assimilation. g


That's NEVER been effective.


Recently it's hooked me, though.


NO PROBLEMO. The Amazing Puppy Wizard is fixin
to UN HOOK YOU on accHOWENT of you're a liar
and dog abuser and mental case.


Poor little GrisGris has seen more dog walks than ducks!


Not THAT again!

HOWEDY People,


Thanks to over twenty years experience shocking
choking pinching twisting and beatinng dogs, susan
fraser will offer her EXXXUSES for HURTIN dogs
when she runs HOWETA ideas and information an
can't HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy
dog, not even if ITS been SELECTIVELY BRED for
THOWESANDS of generations of CHUMPions.



Reasons To Earpinch
(This article is the intellectual property of Susan Fraser.
Contact me for permission to repost or reprint in any form.)


Yeah. This article is being examined for educational
puporses for discussion only on The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Forum where only lying dog abusing punk thug cowards
and mental cases hurt dogs and lie abHOWET it:


I come from a field background, where force
fetching with the ear pinch is the accepted
standard Indeed it is simply the *first* step of
the "basics" program for retrievers.


INDEED?

The Amazing Puppy Wizard comes from a
backgrHOWEND of over forty years experience
specializing in temperament and behavior
problems in mostly giant breed working dogs
who'd freakin murder you for pullin that kinda
crap on them.



Yet, I have done an inducive retrieve (with treats)


You mean your bribery failed to control
a dog goin after a birdie? What would
you EXXXPECT? Your weenie can't
entice a dog off a birdy noMOORE than
it can entice them HOWETA a garbage
can or not to be afraid of kids and skate
boards.


with my last four young pups _


You shouldn't be allHOWED to own living critters.


before they got to the age to force fetch.


Well then, you'd have been able to train
them to fetch in the litter box, eh susan?


By that stage of training, they already knew fetch and hold.


INDEED?


So I have delved into reasons for the ear pinch
and discovered that it's purpose is far more than
just teaching those behaviors.


You mean, when you ear pinch a dog that
already knows HOWE to do what you've
EXXXPERTLY trained IT to do?


The "force fetch" actually has very little to do with fetching.


Right. IN FACT, it's all got to do with hurtin
and intimidating a dog to make it work harder
than it would if you bribed or choked it, susan.

You ever tried trainin a dog withHOWET HURTIN IT?


"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.


You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???



It's more about the force part;


You mean the part where you pinch a ear or
twist a toe to make the dog "REALLY DIG HOWET?"

http://www.oakhillkennel.com/library/force/force2.html


"None of my posts, prior to or subsequent to
Jerry Howe's attacks, encourage anyone to
twist ears, beat dogs, confront, intimidate,
frighten, or any of the crap he constantly
attributes to me," lying frosty dahl.


BWEEEEAHAHAHHAAA!!!



that is, the dog is not being _asked to comply,
it is a _command.


Oh. You mean we're back to the "ME" thing again.


This is


All abHOWET "ME." Your ego. Your pathetic
fragile defective ego inferiority complexes and
weak fearful mind, susan.

"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.


You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?



the first of very many behaviors in a field dog's
repertoire that must be absolutely unequivocally
obeyed.


What's the problem, susan? The Amazing Puppy
Wizard just asks HIS dogs to bring HIM whatever
and they do it cause they enjoy doin stuff and bein
SPECIAL.

"Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
you to progress to striking them more
sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
expert trainer, discoverer of cannibalism
in Labradors.


You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?


"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.


Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies
HURT all their lives like HOWE HOWER dog
lovers PREFER to HURT THEIR DOGS?


"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."


The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.



And it is the foundation for so many others
that the stronger it is, the easier the rest will be.


We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...

Took five minutes to train my GSD
to pick up stuff and bring it over and
she was HOWEtside and I was inside.



In a field situation, a dog who decides he would
prefer not to fetch _


You mean, a SELECTIVELY BRED HAND PICKED
and TESTED for THOWESANDS of generations
RETRIEVER DOG?

You mental cases choke shock beat
twist and pinch dog's ears and lie
abHOWET it:


terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."



this time might be risking life or limb.


You mean you'd KILL him for not jumpin
into the ice water to get a dead birdie
who's head you was kindly enough to
blow clean off in front of his Mrs. and kids
before he kissed them good mornin an
had breakfast?


Out in the fields where there are cows, barbed
wire fences, roads, peoplewith guns, GATORS,
etc. a dog does not have the privelige of choosing
when to comply and when not to.


Right. That's HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual Students learn HOWE to install
the come or any command as a conditioned reflex
in abHOWET WON HOWER. Maybe less, if you
know HOWE.


Fetch is mandatory,


Like come?


and that's one of the main things the pinch teaches.


You mean, cause if the dog don't FETCH he
may get run DHOWEN by a four wheeler or
get ate by a gator or shot by another drunken
hunter or you'll just give up and shoot the thing
yourself and get a new dog an start over?

There ain't nuthin much EZier than trainin
a HUNTIN dog to HUNT, susan. They've
been SELECTIVELY BRED for THOWESANDS
of generations over THOWESANDS of years
to do JUST HUNTIN.



Also, the pinch is used to teach another valuable
lesson to the dog,


That his owner is a sadist and mental case.

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."


You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?



and that is how to get out of pressure.


You mean, HOWE to stop you from HURTIN him?

That's EZ susan.


JUST STOP.


SEE?



In advanced field work,


You mean, the work your SELECTIVELY BRED
HAND PICKED and TESTED RETRIEVER DOG
has been SELECTIVELY BRED for THOWESANDS
of years and C-HOWENTLESS GENERATIONS
to RETRIEVE?


no matter how slowly and carefully we advance a
dog, there will be times where she will willfully disobey.


Oh. It's back to the "ME" issue again, eh susan?

"Try pinching the ear between the metal
casing and the collar, even the buckle on
the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"


That's really HOWE COME any of you bums
HURT your dogs to train them. Let's face it,
you've seen that hurting dogs to train them
doesn't work


You've seen that NOT hurtind dogs to train
them trains EVERY DOG NEARLY INSTANTLY.


Yet you WANT to HURT and INTIMIDATE dogs
cause you're a psychot sexual sadist.



And for all the above listed reasons, she
cannot have that option.


"This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome"

You mean if she doesn't fetch instantly a
gator that she didn't notice that you spotted
from thre hundred feet a way might snatch
her up?


Or a Willy's Jeep might come HOWETA the
bush and run her DHOWEN? Or she might
miss a lull in a wave and jump into a big
WON and get washed into the Atlantic?


Perhaps thems are all good reasons not
to be HOWET there doin stupid stuff like
murdering birdies for PLEASURE?


"You can press the dog's ear with a
shotshell instead of your thumb even
get a studded collar and pinch the ear
against that Make the dog's need to stop
the pinching so urgent that resisting your
will fades in importance.


CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
using the stick and no ear pinch.


When the dog is digging out to beat the
stick and seems totally reliable without
any ear pinch, you are finished


If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
under the chin, say "No! Hold!"


(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
because the ear is getting tender, or the
dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
frosty dahl.



It is *not* S.O.P. to just strap an ecollar on a
dog and startpushing buttons -


Well, yeah it IS S.O.P. You're a HOWEtright liar.

FRAUDrecke does it JUST LIKE THAT cause
he's got a SCAM goin. He RUINS dogs at his
"seminars" and trains them to be 100% DEPENDENT
on his shock collars.


If you don't but the first day, you'll buy the
next cause your dog won't do NUTHIN unless
you got that shock collar to HURT him with.



the dog is systematically taught what the stim means


You mean the shock. If you was capable
of systemically teachin the dog anything
you'd be able to teach a SELECTIVELY
BRED HAND PICKED and TESTED for
THOWESANDS of generations RETRIEVER
DOG to RETRIEVE withHOWET HURTIN HIM.

Wouldn't you.



and how to get out of it.


Some dogs opt for death.


The dog cannot get hysterical,
or sulky, or stubborn about it.


Well HOWE COME you suppose a
dog MIGHT get like that, susan?


It's a matter of fact proposition -


The FACT IS, you HURT dogs cause
you're a Sadist. A sexual sadist, susan.


I have the transmitter; you will comply.


INEEDY. Back to that "ME" thing again.


So the dog is conditioned carefully to understand


IF the dog was "conditioned carefully to
UNDERSTAND," susan, the dog would
be CONDITIONED TO CAREFULLY DO
what he was "CONDITIONED CAREFULLY
TO UNDERSAND."

There's NUTHIN wrong with the DOG susan.
The DOG don't NEED to GET HURT. You
HURT dogs cause you don't know HOWE
to "CAREFULLY CONDITION" them.


Or you wouldn't NEED to HURT them.


Would you.


You think them dogs that have been SELECTIVELY
BRED and hunted for THOWESANDS of years
SUDDENLY FORGOT HOWE to HUNT till YOU
figgered HOWET HOWET to HURT THEM?



that there is *always* a way to get out of a
pressure situation.


You mean, when YOU HURT THEM.


And if the trainer is worth his salt,


He'd have the INTELLECT to be able to
make a SELECTIVELY BRED for THOWESANDS
of years and THOWESANDS of generations
of CHUMPION RETRIEVER DOGS to RETRIEVE
withHOWET HURTING THEM.

And he'd be able to do that in 1/4 time it takes
you, using your shock collars and ear and toe
pinch and twist and choking and beating with
sticks, susan.



the dog knows durn good and well what it is.


WON FINE DAY we're gonna have LAWS to
protect innocent dogs and gullible people from
sexual Sadists who HURT INTIMIDATE and
MURDER dogs for FUN and PROFIT or to
compensate for your fragile defective ego
inferiority complexes and weak fearful mind.


So the crux of the matter is for the dog to
take a correction stoically,


You mean, to let you HURT him. The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's dogs will
attack anyWON who tries to HURT
or force them, susan. That's HOWE
it SHOULD be.


think rationally about the actions that produced it,


You mean, like if you forgot to take your meds
or maybe you're feelin a little insignificant, so
you take your dog HOWET and shock and
choke and beat him till you feel better.

Serviette?



and make a concious decission to
ammend its behavior to avoid another one.


Well susan, if you wanna see an INTELLECTUAL
discussion abHOWET "correcting" dogs in the
field, read "Swiss Cheese Method" where your
pal lying frosty dahl shocks a dog fifteen ways
to the middle till not even The Amazing Puppy
Wizard can figger HOWET what IT is supposed
to do.

Every thing you think you know abHOWET trainin
dogs is DEAD WRONG, or you'd NEVER NEED
TO HURT THEM... unless you LIKE hurtin them...



This mental discipline is a learned behavior


You mean, when you failed to train IT do do
what you ask and you HURT IT cause you
failed to TRAIN IT to do what IT had been
SELECTIVELY BRED for THOWESANDS
of generations over THOWESANDS of years,
IT LEARNS YOU'LL HURT HIM for not knowin
what you wanted IT to do cause IT was
WORRIED abHOWET YOU HURTIN HIM?


just like any other.


INDEED, susan. All behaviors are the
same same same same. We do not
HURT dogs cause a gator is comin
up behind them and we don't HURT
dogs cause they'll get killed if we
don't HURT them, susan.

Those are EXXXCUSES lying dog abusing
cowards and mental cases use to justify
HURTIN dogs cause they don't have the
INTELLECT to HOWEtwit the cunning of
the domestic puppy dog.



And it starts right up close,


With the ear pinch.


in my case literally in my lap,


Where you introduce the pup to gettin
your fingers shoved DHOWEN his
throat to gently choke IT HOWETA
MHOWETHING.


where a small amount of pressure is applied


You mean PAIN, susan. PAIN, not PRESSURE.
PRESSURE is like when you put your hand to
your head and hold it to stop the voices. PAIN
is when the voices make you shock yourself
on your collar to make SHORE it FEELS GOOD
for your dog when you fail to make IT do as
you've CAREFULLY CONDITIONED IT to do
so long as you can HURT HIM.


and the dog is gently guided to "turn it off"
by performing a simple known behavior.
No coddling for the same reason you don't
coddle a dog afraid of a storm;


Well susan, perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME
your dog is afraid of LHOWED noises and
refused to go HOWET on your porch?

Dogs FEAR LHOWED NOISES cause their
abuser can't stop the noise any better than
you can stop the pervert in your head from
talkin in your ear, susan.



it is just a mild discomfort,


INDEED?


but she has the power to make it cease.


Serviette?


There is a third reason.


You didn't take your anti psychotic meds
with a little food, susan?


That is to teach a dog to do something no
matter what distractions there are.


Oh? The Amazing Puppy Wizard sees
no difficulty for distractions, susan.


The dog knows fetch. But to keep that
focus even in the face of some discomfort
is also a learned behavior.


You mean the discomfort of that gator
the the jeep or the briars, susan?


This is the purpose behind the much
misunderstood (and misapplied!) stick
fetch.


Well susan, good thing you mention that.
The stick fetch is where you tie the dog on
a short lead to a tree and throw a bumper
in front of him just HOWETA reach and
beat him with the stick till he "REALLY
DIGS HOWET."

That's HOWE COME you wrote in here a
while back cause your dog was SHRIEKING
ON LINE cause you abused him like that.



The dog is not hit as punishment.


RIGHT!

NoWON HITS DOGS here abHOWETS, susan.
That's HOWE COME we jerk and choke them
on pronged spiked pinch choke collars and shock
and spray aversives in their eyes and beat them
with sticks and chin chuck and pinch and twist
ears and toes, susan.


So the dog don't think we're ABUSING him.


NEVERY HIT YOUR DOG, susan. NEVER.


That's what your shock and choke collar
and trainin stick are abHOWET.



The dog is tapped on her haunches as a distraction;


And THAT'S what makes her "REALLY DIG HOWET?"

You're a liar susan. That PROVES you're a MENTAL
CASE rather than just a ignorant know nuthin dog
abuser like FRAUDreck.


"When the dog is digging out to beat the
stick and seems totally reliable without
any ear pinch, you are finished," dahl.



it's instinctive for a dog to respond to that


You mean, gettin abused?


like a horse to trying to outrun the jockey's crop.


Right. THAT'S JUST A DISTRACTION, eh susan?

YOU'RE A LIAR A DOG ABUSER AND A MENTAL CASE.



So the dog is told to fetch, and en route
she is tapped on the haunches with a stick.


Well, THAT ain't HOWE it sez in lying frosty
dahl's INSTRUCTIONS on the "STICK FETCH
witHOWETthe Ecollar," published in the huntin
dog hurtin magazine.


She has to keep focus and not give in
to the urge to turn or tuck butt or freeze.


No. The dog is RESTRAINED and beatin
till it "REALLY DIGS HOWET."

lying frosty dahl called The Amazing Puppy
Wizard a LIAR cause HE misquoted and said
"REALLY DIGS IN."


Whatever the difference is, exists only in
the mind of a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR and
MENTAL CASE cause DECENT PEOPLE
DO NOT HURT DOGS and LIE ABHOWET
IT cause THAT is INSANE, susan... it's
MENTALLY ILL CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.



She has to fetch anyway.


You mean, anyHOWE.


This is a very easy step if the dog has learned that
when the ear is pinched she has to fetch anyway.


So you pinch the puppys ears before they
can hardly walk, to condition them to abuse.


Now you've got a dog who will not be distracted
or confused when she is told to fetch when guns
are blaring,


Beatin the dog with a stick ain't gonna
make it not be gunshy, susan. IN FACT,
it'll make the dog MOORE FEARFUL.
Like YOUR DOG when he was SHRIEKING
ON LINE, susan.

REMEMBER?



the water is icy, and there's a flapping bird
she must pass by en route to the dead one
floating away that she was sent to fetch.


Should take a few minutes to train a dog to
realize that and you wouldn't NEED to HURT
the dog, susan.


Now, you might ask, what's so darn important
about having a dog pick up a dead wild bird
when I could just go to the grocery store and
buy a dead bird to eat?


Well susan, this ain't abHOWET huntin,
this is abHOWET abusing animals for
your own psycho sexual sadistic ISM.


(Or in having a dog pick up a piece of oddly
shaped plastic that we threw away in the first place?)


You mean, the EZiest thing in the world for
a SELECTIVELY BRED HAND PICKED and
TESTED for THOWESANDS of generation
and THOWESANDS of RETRIEVER DOG
CHUMPIONS, susan?


Hmm, in my case, what's so damn important
about that is that it's so damn important to my dogs.


You mean, the dogs jerk and choke shock
beat twist and pinch from puppyhood on to
force them to do the most natural thing in
the Whole Wild World for a RETRIEVER
dog to do, EVEN IF he ain't been SELECTIVELY
BRED fro CHOWENTLES THOWESANDS
of generations, susan?


They are retrievers born and bred.


INDEED. Case closed. There ain't
no need to HURT them unless you're
a sexual sadist who enjoys HURTIN
dog and murdering dead birdies in
front of their Mrs. and childred before
he kisses them good mornin and has
breakfast with them.


If there's a fault in it being so damn
important to them,


You mean, so important that they love
to be hurt shocked choked beatin twisted
and pinched to have the opportunity to
REFUSE to do it?

Seems you're a little CONfHOWENDED, eh susan?



it's that they were selectively bred-to-the-bone
for it to be so damn important by human beings
just so they could be exploited to work for us.


You been takin your meds, susan?

Seems you've had a mental breakdHOWEN.



But take that as you may, they *are* retrievers.


Is THAT HOWE COME THEY REFUSE
and NEED to GET HURT?


I understand the whole Force Fetch controversy


Do you NHOWE? There AIN'T no "controversy."
HURTING DOGS IS CRIMINALLY INSANE, susan.


in the context that it would apply to a dog
to whom getting to a fallen object in order
to bring it back to its human is not a priority.


IOW, you only NEED to HURT your BEST
SELECTIVELY BRED for C-HOWENTELSS
GENERATIONS and HAND PICKED and
TESTED Retriever dogs when THEY REFUSE
TO WORK FOR YOU CAUSE YOU HURT THEM.


But not when it is the dogs' compulsions that
are being indulged by spendingmany thousands
of hours together teaming up with them in order
to refine how they do that job


Oh? They "DO THAT JOB" under DURESS.
That's what your shock collar and pronged
spiked pinch choke collar and trainin stick
are abHOWET, susan.


they are obsessed with doing.


You mean, REFUSING to do cause you HURT them.
OtheWIZE you wouldn't NEED to HURT them.

WOULD YOU, susan.



Its not about force and ego.


That so? The Amazing Puppy Wizard
sez you could train your dogs NEARLY
INSTANTLY withHOWET EVER HURTIN
them and they'll work BETTER than you
ever could imagine. IN FACT, you've SEEN
some dogs that have been trained withHOWET
FEAR FORCE and INTIMIDATION.


Or rather if it *is* about force
and ego, then I reserve the right
to change my stance.


You mean, admit you're dead wrong
and need mental health care, susan?


IOW, using force to make a dog do something


Sumpthin IT has been SELECTIVELY BRED
for THOWESANDS of years and C-HOWENTELSS
generations of CHUMPION FIELD DOGS, susan?


basically distasteful to the dog *is* stupid.


No. Stupid is hurting dogs cause you don't
know any goddamend better. Stupid is listening
to lyign dog abusing punkg thug coward mental
cases who HURT and INTIMIDATE dogs and
call themselves EXXXPERT trainers and write
sado sexual doggy porn.


What would be the fun in that?


You mean, in NOT HURTING dogs?


It is so foreign to me to consider a person
using undue force to get a reluctant dog to
retrieve


IMAGINE?


that I can't even imagine why someone would do that!


Nor can any decent reasonably intelligent human
being. Even little children know better than to
HURT and INTIMIDATE animals, susan.


But to mold a retriever to be a partner


You mean, that SECLECTIVELY BRED HAND
PICKED and TESTED for C-HOWENTELSS
generatins of RETRIEVING DOG CHUMPIONS,
that dog you gotta shock choke pinch twist and
beat when IT REFUSES to do what you didn't
have the INTELLECT to TRAIN him to naturall
want to do as his line has done for C-HOWENTLESS
GENERATIONS withHOWET GETTIN HURT?


in the job she was bred to perform,


Yeah. So you hurtin them dogs is your
mental illness, not a fault of the dog.


to be a witness to her courage and
heart as she rises to the challenges,


You mean when you push the big red button
marked BURN or beat IT with a stick?

Or did you mean when you pinch and twist
his ears and toes?



for her to be physically and mentally conditioned
and honed to the edge of her natural abilities


Yeah. You mean the natural ability you
gotta choke and shock and pinch and
twist and beat with sicks to elicit?


while being challenged to learn and
understand complex concepts,


You mean, go get the dead birdy who's
head you just blew clean off his neck in
front of his Mrs. and babies befor he
even got to say good mornin and have
breakfast, for your dog's pleasure?

Hey susan? If this was your dog's PLEASURE,
HOWE COME would he REFUSE to be pleasured?



and for her to trust and respect her handler


Yeah. TRUST and RESPECT for his abuser.


enough to persevere in the face of natural
obstacles with style and intense pleasure
in a job well done...


Like HOWE Retriver Dogs have done for
C-HOWENTLESS generations of RETRIEVER
CHUMPIONS, susan?


Well if all that's the goal, of course there
are some isolated instances of discomfort,


Only when you run HOWETA serviettes
and cold water, susan.


some trials and tribulations to overcome,
some lessons that must be learned the
hard way.


INDEEDY. Welcome to The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Forum School Of HARD KNOCKS, susan,
where lying dog abusing cowards thugs punks
and active long term incurable mental cases
are IDENTIFIED EXXXPOSED and DISCREDITED
based on their own words.

The Amzaing Puppy Wizard relies on the
CONstructive approach, wherebye you
build a gallows on your own words and
The amazing Puppy Wizard pulls the floor
HOWET from under you and hoists you
on your own petard, susan.


Nuthin personal. That's just HOWE IT IS.



In all the realms of extraordinary endeavor,


You mean like shocking beating choking
pinching and twisting innocent critters who've
been SELECTIVELY BRED for C-HOWENTLESS
generations for THOWESANDS of years, to
make them DO what they've been bred to do?

THAT IS, EXXXTRAORDINARY, susan.


EXXXTRAORDINARY.



human or otherwise


Let's look at otherWIZE, susan. Decent
human beings DON'T HURT INNOCENT
CRITTERS for FUN and then try to blame
the CRITTER for INVITING YOU TO HURT HIM.


there's a "no pain, no gain" factor.


INDEED. The Amazing Puppy Wizard
uses a hybrid koehler / Socratic method.


Should we stop running when we get blisters,


Certainly not, susan. An intelligent person
would stop running pryor to blistering.


or quit college when we are mentally exhausted?


Perhaps you never shoulda gone to college
susan, you don't even have the intellect to
HOWEtwit the cunning of the goddamened
domestic puppy dog.

You wanna sue the college that ripped you off?



IS there such a thing as a rose-colored world
where everything comes easy and cushy,


INDEEDY, susan. The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's CONSISTENTLY 100% NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students all over the Whole Wild World
been tellin you abHOWET it since Robert
Crim MURDERED his DEAD DOG Fritz
cause sexual sadists like you told him not
to believe The Amazing Puppy Wizard cause
mentally ill lying dog abusing punk thug cowards
like you GOTTA HURT DOGS TO TRAIN THEM.


but there are still reasons to strive
for the things that would make that
life really worth living?


INDEED?

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good
of its victims, may be the most oppressive. Those
who torment us for our own good will torment us
without end, for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis.


"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), Agamemnon.


All behavior problems including OCD's and
many physical DIS-EASES like ear infections,
self mutilation, urinary tract / bHOWEL / bladder
DIS-EASE, seizures, Addison's / Cusing's /
endocrine symptoms, even lameness, cataracts
and periodontal DIS-EASE are caused by STRESS
from mishandling as taught by HOWER dog lovers
and behavior EXXXPERTS like professor "SCRUFF
SHAKE and SCREAM 'NO!' into it's face for 5 seconds
and lock IT in a box for ten minutes reflection" dermer,
research associate at UofWI dept of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM.


"I posted this to rec.pets.dogs.health without
too much success. Things are beginning to
get much worse day by day and the vets seem
unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV"


THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and
ASYLUM ESCAPEES.


From: The Puppy Wizard )
Subject: PetSafe Radio Dog Fence ???
Date: 2004-02-29 12:53:40 PST


HOWEDY fish,



"Fish" wrote in message


news:s9M_b.29783


...


THANKS SO MUCH for all the great advice.



INDEEDY! You've got some EXXXCELLENT
advice from liars dog abusers and active long
term incurable MENTAL PATIENTS.


I'll go ahead with the PetSafe fence system
as I only have to protect my dog from our
landscaping.


Right. Didn't you see "Little Shop Of Horrors?"
Your landscapin could KILL your dog.


I don't have an area under water for my dog to
play in and I have a physical fence on the other
side of all the landscaping so I think the PetSafe
system will work out fine (from your advice).


Your dog is DYIN from STRESS, cause you're
a dog abuser, fish.


I just want to protect my dog from any harmful
plants and protect my landscaping (that cost
enough to protect...lol).


INDEED:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good
of its victims, may be the most oppressive. Those
who torment us for our own good will torment us
without end, for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis.



Thanks again everyone...


From: Jo Wolf )
Subject: How to protect harmful landscaping from dog? Date:
2004-02-16 21:35:03 PST

The invisible fence often works for this use. Better than as a
fence to keep the dog in the yard. Also the above-ground
electric wire type fence will often work for this... install
at mid-chest height.


Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia


From: Fish )
Subject: Foot problem
Date: 2004-02-07 17:37:56 PST


Hey Emily,


Your post hits home as my male 2 year old Yellow Lab (Tyson)
gets ear infections often and has the habit of licking his
paws often. It hasn't gotten extremely bad yet with the
licking, but I did need to make a trip to the vet once as his
paw was getting really raw.


He eats Eukanuba large breed dog food now and has
since he was 6-9 months old (Eukanuba puppy food
for medium breed when he was young). He also does
get some people food from the table on occasion (mostly
healthy food...chicken, vegetables, eggs, etc..)


Could his ear infection and paw licking be a result from
allergies from this food?


He gets about one ear infection a month on average
and licks his paws (and arm) very often.


Thanks...


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D


His dog is self mutilating and suffering
auto immune DIS-EASE from STRESS.


Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
Date: 2004-01-16 18:36:40 PST


HOWEDY People,


Works for dogs as it works for people... except dogs need far
less trauma stress and mistrust to make them psychotic cause
they can't rationalize that their abuser LOVES them and HURTS
them to keep them SAFE.


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good
of its victims, may be the most oppressive. Those
who torment us for our own good will torment us
without end, for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis.


Figger it HOWET, People.


Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD): A very real condition


By Dr. Abraham Twerski, M.D.


http://www.jewishworldreview.com |


It is rather strange that a condition which should have easily
been identified on the basis of common sense was not
recognized by the psychiatric profession until relatively
recently. The term Post Traumatic Stress Disorder did not
appear in the American Psychiatric Association manual until
1980. The reason this is important is because it indicates an
attitude that can have bearing on recognizing the problem and
instituting proper treatment.


After World War I, soldiers who showed symptoms of anxiety,
irritability, nightmares and inability to cope with life were
considered to have "a bad state of nerves" which was termed
"shell shock." It was thought that they were cowards who
wished to evade combat. They were subject to shame and
threatened with court-martial. It wasn't until 1941 that the
first clinical study entitled The Traumatic Neuroses of War
was published.


The author, Dr. Kardiner, pointed out that war neurosis was
considered by many physicians to be a "hysterical neurosis,"
and that this term led people to think that the patient was
weak willed, malingering and trying to get something for
nothing. After World War II, a more enlightened attitude
developed, with the realization that prolonged combat could
break even the strongest soldier, and that the psychiatric
casualties of war were as real and as inevitable as gunshot
and shrapnel wounds. It was not until the Vietnam war that the
condition of "traumatic neurosis" was legitimized.


The resistance to recognizing that trauma can have long-term
psychological effects still persists. Although there is
sympathy for those who were victims of catastrophic trauma
such as an earthquake, tornado or terrorist attack, there is a
less positive attitude toward people who sustained personal
trauma. As a result, people who have suffered personal trauma
are hesitant to seek help for their problems. They may do
their utmost to cope and may actually function quite well, but
the unresolved residuals of the trauma may cause emergence of
symptoms at any time. Shame and guilt may result in the memory
of the trauma being buried in the subconscious mind, beyond
one's awareness.


Children who suffered abuse or molestation may have
difficulties in school performance and socialization. A
variety of pedagogic and psychological techniques may be used
to help them, but as long as the trauma remains a secret and
unattended, they are not likely to succeed. The emotional
aftermath of childhood trauma may cause serious disturbances
in marriage and in parenting. People seeking psychological
help may not even recall traumatic events of childhood. These
must be skillfully elicited and dealt with.


Young children are extremely impressionable, and childhood
trauma may have a much greater impact than similar trauma in
adulthood.


After World War II, some psychiatrists tried to treat the
combat neurosis by administering sodium amytal ("truth
serum"). Under the effect of this drug, some patients were
able to recall and describe the trauma. However, mere
recollection did little to relieve their symptoms. What is
necessary is an understanding and integration of the
experience into consciousness. One must become aware of the
emotions incident to the trauma, how they have caused the
memory to be walled off and how they are affecting one's
current behavior.


Symptoms of PTSD can occur anywhere from days to years after
the trauma. Their effect on a person's functioning may range
anywhere from minimal to totally disabling.


The primary symptoms fall into three categories:
Hyperalertness, Intrusions and Suppression.


Hyperalertness means that the person is constantly on guard,
as if danger is lurking and may occur at any moment. He is
easily startled by noises or by any unexpected movement. The
ring of an alarm clock or someone entering the door without
knocking may trigger a reaction. The mind may perceive these
as a threat, and the body may respond with the features of the
"fight or flight" reaction. A person with hyperalertness may
find it impossible to relax. He may have difficulty in falling
asleep and may awaken several times during the night, with or
without nightmares. Sleep deprivation may result in poor
concentration, impaired memory and moodiness.


People who live with expectation of danger may actually
precipitate some mishap. The tension and suspense that
something terrible is going to happen may be so intolerable
that they do something "to get it over with." They may start a
business venture and do something to make it fail. They may
have a good relationship and act in a manner that will make
the other person reject them. They may be more prone to
accidents. Each failure or accident may reinforce their
feeling that the world is stacked against them.


The consequences of their anxiety breeds more anxiety in a
vicious cycle that is reminiscent of the words of Job, "I felt
great anxiety, and what I feared would happen did happen to
me" (Job 3:25).


A person should experience joy in life. People with morbid
expectations may be unable to accept feeling joy. They may
fear that if they enjoy something they may lose it. One young
mother with PTSD said that she dreads walking over to the
baby's crib for fear that she would not find the child alive.
"I don't feel I deserve to have such a beautiful baby." There
was no logic to this fear. It was a symptom of her expecting
something terrible to happen. Parents with PTSD who have
morbid expectations may be so overprotective of their children
that they cause them to become hyperalert and anxious and
stifle their growth.


Intrusion means that the traumatic incident keeps coming back
and intruding into their awareness. Any one of many things
that is in any way reminiscent of the traumatic incident may
cause the person to feel he is reliving it. This is called a
"flashback." In order to avoid flashbacks the person may
restrict his activities to avoid something that may trigger
one. The person may avoid reading a newspaper, a book, or
meeting people who may in some way trigger a flashback. He may
become isolated and socially withdrawn. For example, some
Holocaust survivors may avoid reading anything referring to
the Holocaust, or even meeting other survivors for fear of
experiencing a flashback of terror. Night terrors in the way
of dreams are intrusive.


People who have experienced a personal assault at night may
not leave their homes at night. A child who leaves the home at
night may trigger an intrusive thought, and they may forbid
their children to go out at night.


Suppression refers to keeping the thought out of awareness.
Because it is a subconscious process it should more correctly
be referred to as "repression." It is similar to the bodily
defense of fainting upon an acute pain so that the pain cannot
be felt. Some people describe the experience of a trauma as
though it was not happening to them. This repression can occur
both at the moment of the trauma or at any time later.
Something which is too painful to realize may be banished from
awareness


Clinically, this is especially important in cases of child
molestation. The memory of the experience may be so laden with
the negative feelings of fear, shame and guilt, that the
person may not recall it. Nevertheless, the memory exists in
the subconscious mind, from where the noxious feelings of
fear, shame and guilt associated with the incident continue to
exert their effect. The person may be depressed and/or have
problems ranging from low self-esteem to loathing oneself,
without a clue as to why one feels that way. She may employ
any of the coping tactics described in my book Life's Too
Short. Difficulties in interpersonal relationships and
disturbances of marriage may be the result of such incidents.
Because the causative trauma is not recalled, the person may
attribute these difficulties to a variety of other causes,
none of which are true. Even in therapy, the focus may be on
resolving these other causes, which does nothing to alleviate
the problem because the real cause is not addressed.


Some people may recall a traumatic incident and even describe
it, but the memory is devoid of emotion and meaning. Allowing
oneself to think about the memory might bring back the painful
feelings one wishes to avoid.


Rape is one of the most devastating traumas a human being can
experience. Proper management of the acute trauma may help
forestall severe PTSD, but support and therapy may be
necessary for a longer time. A man who had been mugged at
night developed a fear of night. He took a job where he worked
from 11PM to 8 AM, because that enabled him to stay awake all
night. He was frightened of being defenseless when asleep.


The feeling of loss of control that is characteristic of
trauma may result in strange ways of trying to gain control.
Some people may develop superstitions or magical thinking.
Some people may say that they had premonitions of a disaster
and that they have omens about what may happen. Some may
convince themselves that they brought the trauma onto
themselves, and although this may cause them to feel guilty,
the idea of "I caused it" can mean "because I made it happen,
I can make it not happen." Ironically, the painful feeling of
guilt may provide a modicum of relief because it may give them
a sense of control. This may also explain recurrent
nightmares.


The two symptoms, intrusion and suppression, have opposite
effects. Intrusion tries to bring the trauma into awareness,
and suppression tries to keep it out of awareness. The person
with PTSD is caught in the middle, vacillating between states
of intense emotion and no feeling at all. This why the person
may be unstable and unpredictable, alternating between
impulsive behavior and no action at all.


With so many possible symptoms, mood alternation and
unpredictable behavior, the person with PTSD may be
erroneously diagnosed and treatment may be ineffective. It is,
therefore, important to be aware of PTSD, to prevent it when
possible, to recognize it early, and to institute proper
treatment.


------------------------------------------------------------=AD---
------------- ---- Abraham J. Twerski, M.D. is a psychiatrist
and ordained rabbi. He is the founder of the Gateway
Rehabilitation Center in Pittsburgh, a leading center for
addiction treatment. An Associate Professor of Psychiatry at
the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, he is a
prolific author, with some 30 books to his credit. He has
recently launched a new 12 step program for self esteem
development www.12steps2selfesteem.com


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Here's an alternative SOLUTION:

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Wrong. In case you didn't notice that quote was already in a _reply_
from someone else. I don't know of any way to add replies to killfile
lists, it would be a good idea though.

Rocky wrote:
Jon said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:


He's been on my killfile since I discovered the dog groups.


Pretty cool, you still quoting him.

In article xslTd.15173$yr.14861@okepread05,
Jon wrote:
Wrong. In case you didn't notice that quote was already in a _reply_
from someone else.

What's that "boing" sound I'm hearing?
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

All you need to know about Social Security "reform": Your
in-laws are going to have to live with you

Jon said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Wrong. In case you didn't notice that quote was already in
a _reply_ from someone else.

How does that stop you from trimming?

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.