In article ,
diddy wrote:
You are making that division. And it's interesting that you would criticise
him for communicating the facts and statistics that he knows,

He doesn't do that, actually. I think you're confusing him
with Steve Crane.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

For two decades your payroll taxes have been used to offset
the cost of upper-income tax cuts.

In article ,
diddy wrote:
Actually he DOES.

Maybe you think what he's presenting are facts, and that's
the source of the confusion.

After all you learn everything
about nutrition from the local feed store.

Well, for one thing I don't know everything about nutrition.
Second, while I do learn a lot from the people down at the
feed store my main sources of general information about dog
nutrition (as opposed to about specific feeds, which is what
I learn about at the feed store) include my vets, mushing
and breed magazines (mushers pay an enormous amount of
attention to nutrition, as you'd expect), and conversations
with other mushers. Maybe you're confused about this for
the same reason that you're confused about whether or not
Gaub presents anything resembling an actual piece of data.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

For two decades your payroll taxes have been used to offset
the cost of upper-income tax cuts.

Melinda Shore wrote:


You know, in all your multitudinous multitude of posts, I've
never seen you mention having a dog. You've posted to sell
your company's products and you've posted about politics,
but you've never posted about dogs. Got dogs?


Oh, that's BS and you know it. Melinda, you pick and choose what you
want to "remember". I don't post to sell anything. I responded
"politically" because you mentioned it first (and yes, in the "body" of
your post for those keeping score at home). As for dogs, I have posted
on canine nutritional topics many times. You choose to ignore that for
some reason. BTW, I have 1 dog (a springer spaniel/border collie mix)
and he's been eating Science Diet his whole life. He's doing
fabulously on it and I just don't see the problems that other people
claim to have.

In article . com,
gaubster2 wrote:
As for dogs, I have posted
on canine nutritional topics many times.

Yes, while promoting your company's products.

He's doing
fabulously on it and I just don't see the problems that other people
claim to have.

Good for him, glad to hear it. All of my dogs did much
better after I switched them to a different food.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

For two decades your payroll taxes have been used to offset
the cost of upper-income tax cuts.

Melinda Shore wrote:
In article ,
diddy wrote:
Actually he DOES.

Maybe you think what he's presenting are facts, and that's
the source of the confusion.

After all you learn everything
about nutrition from the local feed store.

Well, for one thing I don't know everything about nutrition.
Second, while I do learn a lot from the people down at the
feed store my main sources of general information about dog
nutrition (as opposed to about specific feeds, which is what
I learn about at the feed store) include my vets, mushing
and breed magazines (mushers pay an enormous amount of
attention to nutrition, as you'd expect), and conversations
with other mushers. Maybe you're confused about this for
the same reason that you're confused about whether or not
Gaub presents anything resembling an actual piece of data.
--

Melinda, Diddy summed it up quite nicely. I don't feel the need to
discuss things that ARE NOT an issue for my dog. When/If I encounter
any problems or have any questions, I ususally consult my vet friend.
If things don't resolve that way, THEN I will go to alternate sources
for information or help. So far, I've never had to go further than my
vet friend.

When I do present information and facts straight out of Small Animal
Clinical Nutrition, you mock it by saying something to the effect of,
"Hill's 'writes' that book". Which just isn't true, btw. In your
eyes, I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. When there is an
actual nutrition question that I think I can answer, then I will. And
I'm sure that you'll then try to contradict it someway, and then here
come the flames....taking whatever topic/question there was, waaay OT.
Sort of like what's going on now.

diddy wrote:
in thread oups.com:

"gaubster2" whittled the following words:



Interestingly enough, fewer and fewer people actually pay taxes
anymore. It seems you think that we should have income
redistribution?
Isn't that a Socialist position?



Melinda IS a socialist. She has stated that for the record for a
long
time.

Wow. Well then, that explains a lot.

On 8 Apr 2005 04:35:32 -0700 lilyofthevalley whittled these words:

wrote:
What is your favoirte internet pet supply resource? Do you have
different
favorites for different things?


For leather dog collars, leashes, harnesses and muzzles the folks at
Leather Creations for Dogs, Inc is by far the best!
http://www.leather-creations.com

Beautiful stuff


I've never ordered from my favorite on line. http://www.dogtack.com
One of the things about shopping locally is finding out those little
things that make you want to support a business. An on-line retailer can
say, for example, that they support rescue. But it is when you meet and
tlak to the people that you get a picture as to whether there is true
depth to the claim. Paul (owner of Dog Tack) has never gotten the hang of
doing a good presentation on line. Most of his stuff never makes it to
the web. It also tends to change a lot as he finds new sources etc. So
consistency is an issue. Which I suppose fairly keeps him from being
"the best." But what he does carry is wonderful. Lynn and I first met
him at a protection event and his leather tracking lead was unbeatable
both in quality and price. So I wouldn' out him on my list of good on-line
sources, but anyone who is planning a show in the neighborhood of the
Central California coast would find him a great vendor at the show.
And no - I don't get anything from saying so .

--
Diane Blackman
http://dog-play.com/
http://dogplay.com/Shop/

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 06:54:42 -0500, diddy
wrote:

And how is he supposed to maintain a conversational relationship about his
pets when he's always being made to defend his positions.

waaah! meanypants Melinda won't let Chris discuss dogs!

Saying I love my wonderfully smart dog that's great
with kids, and has no health issues (Surprise!) or training issues every
day gets rather boring. Right?

even if he has The Perfect Dog [tm], surely there's something to talk
about? how absolutely, mind-numbingly boring his interactions with
his dog must be if there *isn't*.

--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette || http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com

When the namecalling starts, we're right there for we love the throw
down of a good backbiting.
-- Melora (Rasputina)

On 7 Apr 2005 20:26:03 -0700, "gaubster2" wrote:

Boy, that's a stretch! Melinda, why must you insist on injecting your
personal politics into these various ngs? Do you think there is
something wrong w/ how people choose to spend their OWN, hard-earned
money?

perhaps because someone else brought up the subject? FWIW, the
culture in *behavior--for better or for worse--is that OT discussions
are more tolerated than they are in *health. not that economics is
really an OT discussion, as it *does* pertain to the subject of
on-line shopping for pet supplies.

--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette || http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com

The secret of life is in art.
-- Oscar Wilde

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 07:28:47 -0500, diddy
wrote:

Actually he DOES. His facts and statistics differ from yours, and in your
infinite predjudice, you discount them. After all you learn everything
about nutrition from the local feed store. *bleck*

the only reference i've seen Melinda make to her local feed store is
that she feels they are knowledgeable. she wouldn't have come to that
conclusion if she didn't have an independent reference point to work
from.

I know they local feed stores are trained to spit out the blather of the
traveling salespeople as they walk through. And leave it up to them to
absorb what propaganda they WANT to. And you buy it third/fourth/fifth
hand hook line and sinker.

you must be referring to Mr. Gaub, who was edumicated by the good
folks at PetsMart. oh, the irony.

--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette || http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com

Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.
-- Pablo Picasso