"shelly" wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:26:30 -0400, "Luna" wrote:

Look up disingenuous in the dictionary and then, aim to do better. HTH!

dismay, perhaps; displeasure, no.

Okay. It feels like we're heading for that semantics meadow, but okay.

snip our bickering


What is it with small dogs and their
absolute inability to understand how tiny they are? Weird.

it looks funny, but i don't find the behavior at all weird. i'm
petite. i notice when someone is smaller than me, but i don't
perceive large people as "big."

That's interesting - I'm a 5'11" female and I do exactly the same thing but I
always just assumed that the 'bigger than me' pool was so small that I never
paid much attention to it. The smaller than me segment of the population is
normal so I don't pay much attention to that, either. Perhaps, like my dog, I'm
size dyslexic.

I've got two sisters, one has a Chow and one has an absolutely humongous Burmese
Mountain Dog - my tiny dog stays away from the Mountain Dog (I'm assuming it's
fear) but interacts with the Chow as if she's her equal - the Chow has about
40lbs on her while the BMD has about 100. I'm thinking my eskie has a little
bit of perception re size but - not much. At the dog park she rarely shows fear
towards dogs of any size or breed, however the odd dog will twig her the wrong
way and she'll attempt to herd them off.

Jean

--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette || http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com

You can't be at the pole and the equator at the same time. You must
choose your own line, as I hope to do, and it will probably be color.
-- Vincent van Gogh

"shelly" wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:41:58 -0400, "Luna" wrote:

Are we bored yet? Why yes, we are. Please consider your readers when you
continually post the same pathetically lame insults.

oh, the irony!

I just *knew* the irony word would get thrown here! I'm lookin' for the irony
machine which needs to get taken to the shop, natch.

on the original topic: i buy my dog/cat food from my food co-op. we
order on-line, so i guess it counts.

http://66.222.25.119/

most other stuff i buy from T & T Feed & Seed, a local mom and pop
shop with no web presence.

I buy all of my pet food at...

PETSMART!

Hah. Kidding. I actually buy it at my local pet store, I don't shop at
PetSmart (it's evil) and i refuse to shop at WalMart (Satan).

Jean

--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette || http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com

Fear has many eyes and can see things underground.
-- Miguel de Cervantes

Melinda Shore wrote:
But getting back to the question of taxes, if you want
government services, whether it's a big strapping military
or just nice highways, you've got to pay for them somehow.
What the Bush administration has done, however, is slash
government revenue while exploding spending.

I don't entirely disagree with you here. Quite literally, this is
exactly what they're doing. While the implications have yet to truly be
seen, I'm sure we'll disagree on the philosophies or methods behind
some of these actions.

Now, lest I be accused of supporting Government spending like we've
seen with the Bush administration, this has always been my primary
concern with the current administration. As a fiscal conservative, my
assertion has been that Bush spends like a drunken liberal. Now, some
of the expenditures have been out of his control, i.e.; 911 and the war
on terrorism and adding new departments and over-hauling the ones we
have.

As far as the tax cuts for the working and middle classes: I support
that 100%. I know it's perceived to be contradicted by our inflated
budget, however, the conservative philosophy has always been, give
people more of their money and they will invest in our economy and
future and I think that has helped sustain our economy in large effect.

Melinda Shore wrote:
They're paying
for it by 1) borrowing from the payroll taxes that you and I
have been paying since we started working, and 2) borrowing
fantastic mountains of money from foreign central banks
(note that that has implications for our foreign policy, as
well, since any one of a number of countries could now send
the US economy into freefall by starting a dollar sell-off).

1) Payroll taxes? You mean social security/FICA? Well, that isn't
enough to sustain another generation of retirees and if you want my
unpopular opinion, SS was only meant to be a *temporary* band-aid and
should be eliminated. It was never meant to be people's sole retirement
fund, nor do I feel people should expect that. Retirees that have been
collecting from SS for years now, without putting hardly a fraction of
what they're taking out of it - that is what is bankrupting the system
and it will continue to get worse as more and more babyboomers retire.
I'm a huge proponent of personal savings accounts (NOT PRIVATE ACCTS.
PEOPLE!! - I hate it when people confuse the two.)

2) Foreign bank barrowing - this seems to be a big bug up your butt so
I'll comment on it, knowing that you probably know more about the
details than I do. First of all, I believe this started in the 80's, so
it isn't like it started yesterday; secondly, I'm not convinced the sky
is falling just yet. People often forget that our treasury, one of the
most stable money forces in the world, backs our money. At *worse case*
scenario, we print more money and pay off our debtors. Now, you and I
know that the reason we don't do this is because it would send our
economy into another Great Depression, right? Well...it would depend.
It certainly would have an effect and it certainly would make inflation
skyrocket, but the point is that we are a worthy and stable debtor.

The other part of this equation is that we cannot ignore the global
economy we live in. Buying, selling, trading money is all a part of
financial world stabilization and I'm sure the money we borrow from
China is a lot cheaper than from other countries. It *can* be a win/win
situation. If China decided to hold us responsible for immediate
pay-off and thereby cut us off from Chinese imports, they would be
hurting themselves more than us. Plus, I would much rather buy money
from China than sell secret weapon technology, which was also done
during the Clinton administration!

Luna wrote:
"shelly" wrote in message
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On 9 Apr 2005 16:58:35 -0700, "gaubster2"
wrote:

I never claimed to have a degree in nutrition, but the next time
you
disagree with something I say regarding nutrition, I'll be waiting
for
you to bust out the scientific studies that prove me wrong!

why? you've never provided any. HTH!

*sigh.

HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH!HTH! HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH!HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH!

Are we bored yet? Why yes, we are. Please consider your readers
when you
continually post the same pathetically lame insults.

Thank you.

Huh? "HTH" is usually the internet acronym for "hope that helps". I
don't get it. Is it supposed to be an insult? Or is that the point? Is
it some sort of child speak secret code? Kind of reminiscent of passing
notes?? Ew, I'm giddy!

(I don't know who it was, but I saw this long-ass list of these
acronyms on another posters post, I think it was Shelly, and I was just
like WTF is that supposed to be? LOL.)

Hmmm...I'll have to watch out for these acronyms and try to break the
sophisticated code.

Shelly, what are some of these insult acronyms you use??? I'll assume
you'll let us know if we come up with the right answer. I have some
promotional materials laying around that I'll donate as a prize to
those who guess seven of 'em accurately. Who wants to play?!...C'mon
Shelly, you're always up for a good time, right?

wrote in message
ups.com...

Luna wrote:
"shelly" wrote in message
...
On 9 Apr 2005 16:58:35 -0700, "gaubster2"
wrote:

I never claimed to have a degree in nutrition, but the next time
you
disagree with something I say regarding nutrition, I'll be waiting
for
you to bust out the scientific studies that prove me wrong!

why? you've never provided any. HTH!

*sigh.

HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH!HTH! HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH!HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH!
HTH! HTH! HTH! HTH!

Are we bored yet? Why yes, we are. Please consider your readers
when you
continually post the same pathetically lame insults.

Thank you.

Huh? "HTH" is usually the internet acronym for "hope that helps". I
don't get it. Is it supposed to be an insult? Or is that the point? Is
it some sort of child speak secret code? Kind of reminiscent of passing
notes?? Ew, I'm giddy!

HTH is Hope this helps but it seems to have morphed into '**** you' when
some people use it.

(I don't know who it was, but I saw this long-ass list of these
acronyms on another posters post, I think it was Shelly, and I was just
like WTF is that supposed to be? LOL.)

Hmmm...I'll have to watch out for these acronyms and try to break the
sophisticated code.

Shelly, what are some of these insult acronyms you use??? I'll assume
you'll let us know if we come up with the right answer. I have some
promotional materials laying around that I'll donate as a prize to
those who guess seven of 'em accurately. Who wants to play?!...C'mon
Shelly, you're always up for a good time, right?

FOAD is one of the more prevalent I've noticed, but like I told my children when
they were young, it's always best to 'use your words' and try not to resort to
profanity or sarcasm, though sarcasm *is* fun at times.

Here's my seven:

FOAD
IIRC
IOW
YMMV
WYSIWYG
LMAO
oh, here's one that's too easy 'round here...
NILF.

Jean

Luna wrote:

Here's my seven:

FOAD
IIRC
IOW
YMMV
WYSIWYG
LMAO
oh, here's one that's too easy 'round here...
NILF.

Jean



See, most of those I know, I think.

FOAD - (**** off and die)
IIRC - (if I recall correctly)
IOW - (in other words...)
YMMV - This one I don't know. I'll have to guess...hmmm..."You make me
vomit"! Yeah, that's got to me it!
WYSIWYG - (what you see is what you get)
LMAO - (laugh my ass off - of course)
NILF - Hmmm...this one I don't know either...I know what a MILF is,
LOL. Huh. "NILF". "Neighbor I'd like to %$#%". Nah. "Numbnut in
lame/long frock"? No. "Not in labor force"? Gosh, I just don't know...

shelly wrote:
On 9 Apr 2005 17:06:25 -0700, "gaubster2" wrote:

What's peculiar is that you feel compelled to respond to me at all
if
you think I have nothing of interest (to you) to post.

are your reading comprehension skills really that bad?

That's YOUR come back? Grow up.


I'll lurk and post however I see fit.

duh.

Again, nice retort. How old are you?


You are the one who wanted me to post some irrelevant anecdote about
my
dog, remember?

how would a potential discussion of dog behavior be irrelevant?


Why do you care about my dog?

shelly wrote:
On 9 Apr 2005 17:01:58 -0700, "gaubster2" wrote:

You asked and I answered! Now you're not satisfied w/ the answer
and
therein lies the problem.

what problem? i'm perplexed at why you're here. that's not exactly
a
problem for me and i doubt it's a problem for you.

Shelly, you're arguing just for the sake of argument. Grow up.


I didn't know that you were the
moderator of this non-moderated, public group, your highness.

lordy! is that what you think i'm doing? your reading comprehension
skills really *are* that bad.

BTW, I think your "behavior" on this dog ng leaves a lot to be
desired.
THERE....is that "on topic" enough for you??

so i guess you won't be wasting any of your precious time complaining
about people making personal attacks against you, eh?


You're getting closer and closer to my rarely used killfile! Why you
want to waste bandwith arguing over nothing indicates to me a lack of
maturity on your part. So go ahead and argue away then....I'm not
going to waste my time w/ you in this thread any longer.

In article ,
shelly wrote:
ObDogs: plucking season has arrived. would someone please remind me
why i thought i wanted to live with a wooly mammoth?

4 starting their spring coat blows simultaneously. It's the
dog hair that ate Enfield.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

For two decades your payroll taxes have been used to offset
the cost of upper-income tax cuts.

In article .com,
wrote:
Now, lest I be accused of supporting Government spending like we've
seen with the Bush administration, this has always been my primary
concern with the current administration. As a fiscal conservative, my
assertion has been that Bush spends like a drunken liberal. Now, some
of the expenditures have been out of his control, i.e.; 911 and the war
on terrorism and adding new departments and over-hauling the ones we
have.

If you're a Bush supporter you're not a fiscal
conservative. Not only is his government Pork Central, his
methods of "paying" for it involves running up massive debt
(again, we're in deep hock to the Chinese Communist Party),
playing dishonest budget tricks, and passing the real
expenses along to future generations. The next president,
whether it's a Democrat or Republican, is simply going to
have to raise taxes.

As far as the tax cuts for the working and middle classes: I support
that 100%. I know it's perceived to be contradicted by our inflated
budget, however, the conservative philosophy has always been, give
people more of their money and they will invest in our economy and
future and I think that has helped sustain our economy in large effect.

When Bill Clinton raised taxes, conservatives predicted
massive recession, a stock market implosion, and all sorts
of bad things that not only didn't happen, but *WAY* didn't
happen. In fact, historically GDP growth and stock market
growth are both greater under Democratic presidents than
under Republican presidents, hence the saying "If you want
to live like a Republican, vote for a Democrat."
Personally, I tend to think that the 19th century wasn't
that great the first time 'round so I tend to vote for
neither.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

For two decades your payroll taxes have been used to offset
the cost of upper-income tax cuts.