In article ,
Mary Healey wrote:

ceb wrote in
:

... -- I
haven't actually seen Queenie leap a 4 foot height -- the fence guy
thought that most
dogs really couldn't jump that high.

Repeatedly. From a standstill. Ranger is about 23" tall (big for an ACD),
and leaps the 4' fence as easily as breathing.

Topaz, Rat Terrier, 17.5", 6' fence, no problem. I've been thinking of
asking the vet to X-ray for bionics or coiled-steel springs or testing
for performance enhancing drugs. She's a leaper.

She's also now experienced with an e-collor. That fence doesn't seem to
be as friendly as it used to be.

Leaping, yes; fence jumping, no.

Michael

ceb wrote:
Greetings all:

I am finally, seriously, for real going to fence in my back yard. Someone
was out this morning to give me an estimate, and it wasn't too bad. Many
of my neighbors have used the same company and are happy with the
results, so I may just go with them rather than getting more estimates.

I have 4' chain link, and I'm quite certain that my lab could
jump/climb it if he wanted to. He's never tried, AFAIK. The
biggest problem with him, when he was younger, was that he'd push
his way under the fence. Not dig - PUSH. I don't think he had any
nerves in the skin on his back! We had to reinforce the bottom of
the fence with conduit pipe woven through the links and staked to
the ground to keep it from flexing.

FurPaw
--
"Don't believe everything that you think."
- Seen on a bumper sticker

To reply, unleash the dog

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:22:02 -0600, FurPaw
wrote:

ceb wrote:
Greetings all:

I am finally, seriously, for real going to fence in my back yard. Someone
was out this morning to give me an estimate, and it wasn't too bad. Many
of my neighbors have used the same company and are happy with the
results, so I may just go with them rather than getting more estimates.

I have 4' chain link, and I'm quite certain that my lab could
jump/climb it if he wanted to. He's never tried, AFAIK. The
biggest problem with him, when he was younger, was that he'd push
his way under the fence. Not dig - PUSH. I don't think he had any
nerves in the skin on his back! We had to reinforce the bottom of
the fence with conduit pipe woven through the links and staked to
the ground to keep it from flexing.

I have chain link between my back yard and a side yard. Fortunately,
between the side yard and the front yard, it is wood. Punk has pushed
a whole big section of the bottom out of whack so she can get her big
bod to the side yard. She doesn't spend much time over there, but
just likes to know that she can, I think. I personally don't think
labs have any pain receptors anywhere on their bodies.

--
Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay

Paula wrote in
:

I personally don't think
labs have any pain receptors anywhere on their bodies.


This may be true of other retrievers too. Queenie is about as insensitive
as they come, and I mean that in the nicest possible way!

--
Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico

"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
In article ,
ceb wrote:
What height are your fences? Which do you think I should choose? I would
also like to know of dogs who go over 5 foot fences. Sort of. Five is as
high as the HOA will allow.

I'd go with 5'. Over the long term $300 isn't that much and
You Never Know what the future will bring, including what
kinds of dogs you may end up with in years to come. Also,
it's not just fence jumping that's of concern, it's also
fence climbing. Even really small dogs can get over tall
fences if they learn to climb them, and a taller fence tends
to be more discouraging because it looks more daunting.
Another consideration is making sure that the gate latches
are dog-proof. It was my blind dog, believe it or not, that
figured out how to open my gates.
--

I agree. A fence is a long-term investment so you might as well get the max
now. I had to go with an 8' fence because my St. Bernard could jump
anything shorter.

I also got bungee cords for the front gates and a padlock for the back
because he could open the latches so easily. He's never out there alone but
twice while I was weeding in other parts of the yard he took himself off on
strolls and it took a couple of minutes for me to even notice he was gone.
He came right home (he's pretty much a velcro dog) but it made me realize I
needed to do something about the
latches. (When I was crate training him I had to padlock his crate because
otherwise he opened it up from the inside. One time I came home to find him
outside the crate, which still had two intact padlocks on it. He'd managed
to wedge through a very small opening. Luckily he learned to love his crate
and eventually I only used one latch.)

Jill

"ceb" wrote in message
...
Greetings all:

I am finally, seriously, for real going to fence in my back yard. Someone
was out this morning to give me an estimate, and it wasn't too bad. Many
of my neighbors have used the same company and are happy with the
results, so I may just go with them rather than getting more estimates.

The question at this point is whether to go with 4 or 5 foot fencing.
Five foot fencing is about $300 more, so possibly it's best to go with
that, to be on the safe side. What I am wondering is if you all have
experience with athletic, tall, leaping dogs (I know you do!!) -- I
haven't actually seen Queenie leap a 4 foot height but I am thinking this
might not be too hard for her -- the fence guy thought that most dogs
really couldn't jump that high. I'm thinking, for the right motivation
(deer Deer DEER!!!!) she would sail over it.

What height are your fences? Which do you think I should choose? I would
also like to know of dogs who go over 5 foot fences. Sort of. Five is as
high as the HOA will allow.

It is not my intention to leave them out there alone, I would either be
out with them or in the den (which looks out on the backyard).

--
Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico

We have 6+foot wooden fencing on two sides and 4' chain on two sides. My
chow mix (like chex mix, but a lot fuzzier) will run up the wooden fence
almost to the top. I'm pretty sure she could go over it if she wanted to,
but it's more about chasing the evil squirrels. When we first got her, she
would go over the chain fence, and come right back, but she decided this is
the better side, so she doesn't do that any more.

The lab mix has never tried either fence, but I have no doubt she could
clear the 4' with no problem if she wanted to.

Donna