Greetings all:

I am finally, seriously, for real going to fence in my back yard. Someone
was out this morning to give me an estimate, and it wasn't too bad. Many
of my neighbors have used the same company and are happy with the
results, so I may just go with them rather than getting more estimates.

The question at this point is whether to go with 4 or 5 foot fencing.
Five foot fencing is about $300 more, so possibly it's best to go with
that, to be on the safe side. What I am wondering is if you all have
experience with athletic, tall, leaping dogs (I know you do!!) -- I
haven't actually seen Queenie leap a 4 foot height but I am thinking this
might not be too hard for her -- the fence guy thought that most dogs
really couldn't jump that high. I'm thinking, for the right motivation
(deer Deer DEER!!!!) she would sail over it.

What height are your fences? Which do you think I should choose? I would
also like to know of dogs who go over 5 foot fences. Sort of. Five is as
high as the HOA will allow.

It is not my intention to leave them out there alone, I would either be
out with them or in the den (which looks out on the backyard).

--
Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico

"ceb" wrote in message
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What height are your fences? Which do you think I should choose? I would
also like to know of dogs who go over 5 foot fences. Sort of. Five is as
high as the HOA will allow.

It is not my intention to leave them out there alone, I would either be
out with them or in the den (which looks out on the backyard).

I have a 6' privacy fence and will never replace it with anything but the
same height. Boxers tend to be fence-jumpers though and given the springs
hidden in their feet it generally takes 6' to successfully confine them. My
sister, who adopted 2 Boxers from me, has a 5' chain link fence. Both of
her dogs can jump the fence but they choose not to. Neither one has any
noticable prey drive and since they have each other they generally don't
look outside the yard for other entertainment. I know several Lab families
that have 4' fences and roaming Labs (males, some intact & some neutered).
I think alot depends on your individual dogs but if it were me I'd go with
the 5' just to get the most height coverage I could.

--
Tara

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:25:42 +0000 (UTC), ceb
wrote:

...It is not my intention to leave them out there alone, I would either be
out with them or in the den (which looks out on the backyard).

Plenty of dogs at the animal shelter can jump/climb over a six-foot
chain link fence or gate. I believe the $300.00 investment for the
additional height is a great investment--for many good reasons.

It sounds like you and your dogs are going to have a mighty fine
arrangement.


When I die, I want to go where dogs go!

ceb wrote in
:

... -- I
haven't actually seen Queenie leap a 4 foot height -- the fence guy
thought that most
dogs really couldn't jump that high.

Repeatedly. From a standstill. Ranger is about 23" tall (big for an ACD),
and leaps the 4' fence as easily as breathing.

No experience with 5' fencing.

In article ,
ceb wrote:
What height are your fences? Which do you think I should choose? I would
also like to know of dogs who go over 5 foot fences. Sort of. Five is as
high as the HOA will allow.

I'd go with 5'. Over the long term $300 isn't that much and
You Never Know what the future will bring, including what
kinds of dogs you may end up with in years to come. Also,
it's not just fence jumping that's of concern, it's also
fence climbing. Even really small dogs can get over tall
fences if they learn to climb them, and a taller fence tends
to be more discouraging because it looks more daunting.
Another consideration is making sure that the gate latches
are dog-proof. It was my blind dog, believe it or not, that
figured out how to open my gates.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Average real weekly wages are lower today than they
were at the end of the 2001 recession.

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:25:42 +0000 (UTC), ceb ,
clicked their heels and said:



What height are your fences? Which do you think I should choose? I would
also like to know of dogs who go over 5 foot fences. Sort of. Five is as
high as the HOA will allow.

It is not my intention to leave them out there alone, I would either be
out with them or in the den (which looks out on the backyard).

I have had a 6' stockade fence (zoning variance was required) in a
rowhouse, which was really wise for many reasons. I currently have a
4' chain link fence (hate chain link, but it came with the house and
is costly and difficult to replace due to pant growth). Never had a
dog (mine or many visitors) try to jump it. Dog behind me CAN but
doesn't.

What kind of fence? If it's wire of any type, make sure that the
bottom doesn't flex too much. Ours does, and erosion has made some
pretty huge gaps. Tent stakes take care of that, but I would prefer
a bottom rail.



--
Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfr...bedience/album

ceb wrote:
Greetings all:

I am finally, seriously, for real going to fence in my back yard. Someone
was out this morning to give me an estimate, and it wasn't too bad. Many
of my neighbors have used the same company and are happy with the
results, so I may just go with them rather than getting more estimates.

The question at this point is whether to go with 4 or 5 foot fencing.
Five foot fencing is about $300 more, so possibly it's best to go with
that, to be on the safe side. What I am wondering is if you all have
experience with athletic, tall, leaping dogs (I know you do!!) -- I
haven't actually seen Queenie leap a 4 foot height but I am thinking this
might not be too hard for her -- the fence guy thought that most dogs
really couldn't jump that high. I'm thinking, for the right motivation
(deer Deer DEER!!!!) she would sail over it.

What height are your fences? Which do you think I should choose? I would
also like to know of dogs who go over 5 foot fences. Sort of. Five is as
high as the HOA will allow.

It is not my intention to leave them out there alone, I would either be
out with them or in the den (which looks out on the backyard).

I'd go as high as I could. My 18.5" border collie can easily
scale our 4 foot fence. And does. When I'm out there with her.
Mostly, she just goes into the neighbors yard to visit.
Actually, its been awhile since she's gone over, I think she
isn't crazy about the new neighbors.

Mary W.

ceb wrote in
:

I
haven't actually seen Queenie leap a 4 foot height but I am thinking
this might not be too hard for her -- the fence guy thought that most
dogs really couldn't jump that high. I'm thinking, for the right
motivation (deer Deer DEER!!!!) she would sail over it.


Just a data point, but Moogli, at 10 lbs, can jump high enough that I don't
have to bend ober to catch him in my hands. He can get to my waist with
very little effort. (I am 6 feet tall, so that is a leap of about 3 feet)

--
Marcel and Moogli
http://mudbunny.blogspot.com/

ceb wrote:


What height are your fences? Which do you think I should choose? I would
also like to know of dogs who go over 5 foot fences. Sort of. Five is as
high as the HOA will allow.

It is not my intention to leave them out there alone, I would either be
out with them or in the den (which looks out on the backyard).


I think the question isn't whether or not your dogs have the physical
capability to jump the fence, but whether they would be likely to want
to do so.

I have 4-foot fences and have never had anything taller. Any and all
dogs I've ever owned could have jumped that fence if they wanted, but
they have no real desire to. The fence is merely the physical barrier of
their space. They will put their front feet on the top and hop up and
down barking, but they have no interest in jumping it. YMMV.

"Tee" wrote in
:

I have a 6' privacy fence and will never replace it with anything but
the same height. Boxers tend to be fence-jumpers though and given the
springs hidden in their feet it generally takes 6' to successfully
confine them. My sister, who adopted 2 Boxers from me, has a 5' chain
link fence. Both of her dogs can jump the fence

Yipes.

but they choose not
to. Neither one has any noticable prey drive and since they have each
other they generally don't look outside the yard for other
entertainment.

Queenie seems to have some prey drive, or at least she has some "chase"
drive. But I imagine she won't try to get out unless (a) there is a
provocation or (b) she's out there alone and bored. I can make sure the
second doesn't happen, anyway.

I know several Lab families that have 4' fences and
roaming Labs (males, some intact & some neutered). I think alot
depends on your individual dogs but if it were me I'd go with the 5'
just to get the most height coverage I could.


Good to know! Queenie's pretty springy, so it sounds like the more
height, the better.

--
Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico