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Old July 26th 05, 01:46 AM
Natalie Rigertas
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I wasn't sure if you missed the first posting, so I'm posting again.
Someone I know just adopted this dog and they'd really love to figure out
what breed she is. it's unlikely that she's a shepherd, as the shelter
described. She's 6-9 months old and is 14 pounds.
http://www.rjourdan.com/Trixie/. She seems to have all her adult teeth
and isn't really growing (but since she's so small, it's not much of an
indicator of her age, the way it would be with a larger breed).

Any ideas? Someone from here mentioned that they think that a curled tail
is a dominant trait in a spitz breed, and if that is so, it means that
neither of her parents were a full spitz since her tail is straight. It's
held either straight out or up high, but not curled. She kind of looks
like a schipperke, just white.

Any ideas? I'm very curious about her since she looks like she might have
a mixed breed parent.

natalie

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Old July 26th 05, 02:42 AM
Janet Puistonen
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Natalie Rigertas wrote:
I wasn't sure if you missed the first posting, so I'm posting again.
Someone I know just adopted this dog and they'd really love to figure
out what breed she is. it's unlikely that she's a shepherd, as the
shelter described. She's 6-9 months old and is 14 pounds.
http://www.rjourdan.com/Trixie/. She seems to have all her adult
teeth and isn't really growing (but since she's so small, it's not
much of an indicator of her age, the way it would be with a larger
breed).

Any ideas? Someone from here mentioned that they think that a curled
tail is a dominant trait in a spitz breed, and if that is so, it
means that neither of her parents were a full spitz since her tail is
straight. It's held either straight out or up high, but not curled.
She kind of looks like a schipperke, just white.

Any ideas? I'm very curious about her since she looks like she might
have a mixed breed parent.

natalie


That is one cute pup! She looks like a cross between a Shiba Inu and a white
german shepherd....which seems unlikely from a size/mating point of view.
Could there be something like Samoyed in the mix?

In any case, she is amazingly cute.


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Old August 1st 05, 09:14 PM
Liisa Sarakontu
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Natalie Rigertas wrote in
:

I wasn't sure if you missed the first posting, so I'm posting again.


I was first on a holiday, and when we came back, the net connection at our
home wasn't working. I'm back online only today. Had really terrible
withdrawal symptoms, just like hubby and daughter :-)

Someone I know just adopted this dog and they'd really love to figure
out what breed she is. it's unlikely that she's a shepherd, as the
shelter described. She's 6-9 months old and is 14 pounds.
http://www.rjourdan.com/Trixie/.


Very "spitzy", and in some photos there is also a very "toy-doggish" look.
Could be a combination of American Eskimo (or some small German Spitz
breed), Chihuahua and perhaps something else too, like Papillon.

Anyway, coat type hints to Ll genotype: one gene for long and one for short
coat. Might mean one short-coated and one long-coated parent. Ears look
soft too, which might mean one erect-eared and one lop-eared parent. Not
fully, droopy lop as for example Cocker Spaniel, but perhaps like Tibetan
Spaniel or Phalene. No beard, which means that Trixie can't have a purebred
hairy dog (Poodle, Lhasa Apso, Bichon etc.) as one parent. Normal legs and
normal muzzle, so neither parent is purebred and short-legged or flat-
faced.

Any ideas? Someone from here mentioned that they think that a curled
tail is a dominant trait in a spitz breed


Yes, most 1st gen spitz crosses have really a rather curled tail. But there
are individuals in several spitz breeds with just a very loose curl in
their tail. I think that such dogs can be found from at least (pet quality)
Mittelspitz and Kleinspitz.

She kind of looks like a schipperke, just white.


I think that there are wheaten Schips too, and they are genetically ee
yellows like this Trixie seems to be. So color is not a problem. But Schips
seem to have very tightly curled tail (when not docked), so she is hardly
even half Schip.

Any ideas? I'm very curious about her since she looks like she might
have a mixed breed parent.


....or even more than one mixed-breed grandparent!

Oh, now I know what Trixie looks like. I saw a TV document about Russian
Space dogs just few weeks ago - there were much more of them than just the
famous Laika! Anyway, several of those small dogs looked like Trixie,
except perhaps with longer, fuller coat and curled tail. Most of those
space dogs were originally strays from Moscow streets. Here are some pics
of those dogs: http://www.spacetoday.org/Astronauts/Animals/Dogs.html

Liisa
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Old August 15th 05, 05:32 AM
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my vote is on a sheba inu
spelling may be incorrect
"Liisa Sarakontu" wrote in message
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Natalie Rigertas wrote in
:

I wasn't sure if you missed the first posting, so I'm posting again.


I was first on a holiday, and when we came back, the net connection at our
home wasn't working. I'm back online only today. Had really terrible
withdrawal symptoms, just like hubby and daughter :-)

Someone I know just adopted this dog and they'd really love to figure
out what breed she is. it's unlikely that she's a shepherd, as the
shelter described. She's 6-9 months old and is 14 pounds.
http://www.rjourdan.com/Trixie/.


Very "spitzy", and in some photos there is also a very "toy-doggish" look.
Could be a combination of American Eskimo (or some small German Spitz
breed), Chihuahua and perhaps something else too, like Papillon.

Anyway, coat type hints to Ll genotype: one gene for long and one for
short
coat. Might mean one short-coated and one long-coated parent. Ears look
soft too, which might mean one erect-eared and one lop-eared parent. Not
fully, droopy lop as for example Cocker Spaniel, but perhaps like Tibetan
Spaniel or Phalene. No beard, which means that Trixie can't have a
purebred
hairy dog (Poodle, Lhasa Apso, Bichon etc.) as one parent. Normal legs and
normal muzzle, so neither parent is purebred and short-legged or flat-
faced.

Any ideas? Someone from here mentioned that they think that a curled
tail is a dominant trait in a spitz breed


Yes, most 1st gen spitz crosses have really a rather curled tail. But
there
are individuals in several spitz breeds with just a very loose curl in
their tail. I think that such dogs can be found from at least (pet
quality)
Mittelspitz and Kleinspitz.

She kind of looks like a schipperke, just white.


I think that there are wheaten Schips too, and they are genetically ee
yellows like this Trixie seems to be. So color is not a problem. But
Schips
seem to have very tightly curled tail (when not docked), so she is hardly
even half Schip.

Any ideas? I'm very curious about her since she looks like she might
have a mixed breed parent.


...or even more than one mixed-breed grandparent!

Oh, now I know what Trixie looks like. I saw a TV document about Russian
Space dogs just few weeks ago - there were much more of them than just the
famous Laika! Anyway, several of those small dogs looked like Trixie,
except perhaps with longer, fuller coat and curled tail. Most of those
space dogs were originally strays from Moscow streets. Here are some pics
of those dogs: http://www.spacetoday.org/Astronauts/Animals/Dogs.html

Liisa



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Old August 15th 05, 03:01 PM
Ronna
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Any ideas? Someone from here mentioned that they think that a curled tail
is a dominant trait in a spitz breed, and if that is so, it means that
neither of her parents were a full spitz since her tail is straight. It's
held either straight out or up high, but not curled. She kind of looks
like a schipperke, just white.

Any ideas? I'm very curious about her since she looks like she might have
a mixed breed parent.



She looks like a Chi/American Eskimo cross to me

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Old August 15th 05, 05:38 PM
Liisa Sarakontu
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"Just Mel" wrote in
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my vote is on a sheba inu
http://www.rjourdan.com/Trixie/.


There is no way that Trixie is a purebred Shiba, and it is hardly a half-
Shiba. Shibas have very tightly rolled tail, Trixie doesn't. Shibas have
that typical "Asian dog" face with very small ears, smallish, slanted eyes
and rather thick muzzle (although it is closer to "just general spitz" than
on most Asian breeds), Trixie doesn't show any hint of it. Shibas are
always some kind of sable or tanpoint, Trixie is ee recessive yellow.

Liisa
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Old August 15th 05, 07:15 PM
Rocky
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"Just Mel" said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds:

my vote is on a sheba inu


Heh. When it comes to figuring this stuff out, there *is* no
vote. The answer is straight-forward: Liisa is right.

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