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Old November 2nd 03, 12:49 AM
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Default Some people need educating!!

This was actually written by UKC VP Cindy Cook, some one you'd assume
was educated.

* MYTH: The " Pit bull" breeds have been selectively bred for the
purpose of dog fighting." In fact, the overwhelming majority of
breeders is, and has been for decades, selectively breeding the bull
terrier breeds as companion and working animals. Dog fighters
represent a negligible minority of the fanciers of these breeds. Most
dog fighters are not selectively breeding at all and few, if any, of
their dogs are even purebred. These people are not educated in the
methodology of selecting and fixing particular traits in a breed. They
look for big strong dogs that can be made mean enough, usually through
abuse and neglect, to fight with other dogs and to menace people.

I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE WHAT I'VE READ. ANYONE WHO TRULY KNOWS THE APBT
KNOWS THEY CAN BE DOG AGGRESSIVE AND WANT TO FIGHT DESPITE TRAINING
THEM OTHERWISE AND THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SELECTIVLY BRED FOR GAMENESS
WHICH WAS TESTED BY FIGHTING THE DOGS AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. IT IS TRUE
A LOT OF BREEDER BRED FOR THINGS OTHER THAN GAMENESS, AS DOG FIGHTING
IS ILLEGAL NOW AND OTHER USES HAVE BEEN FOUND. THERE ARE IN FACT STILL
A LARGE NUMBER OF DOGMEN OUT THERE, JUST FEW PEOPLE KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
"DOG FIGHTERS" AS SHE CALLS THEM SELECTIVLY BREED FOR GAMENESS
OTHERWISE THERE WOULDN'T BE CULLING OF CURS, OR THE NEED TO SEE WHICH
DOG IS GAME AND THE BEST TO BREED. THEIR DOGS ARE IN FACT THE MOST
PURE OF ALL APBTS, AS MIXING THEM WITH CURS WOULD ONLY MAKE THEM CURS
AND NOT GAME AT ALL. GAMENESS IS AN EASY TRAIT TO LOOSE AND BREEDING
THE DOG WITH A CUR YOU WILL GET DOGS WHO CUR. I HAVE HOWEVER SEEN SO
MANY PULL DOGS MIXED WITH CURS ITS UNBELIEVABLE THE MOST POPULAR BEING
BANDOGS, AND OTEHRS MIXED WITH CANE CORSO OR BULLMASTIFF AND THESE
DOGS ARE REGISTERED AS PURE WHEN THEY ARE NOT.
MANY OF THE OLDER DOGMEN I HAVE MET WHO HAVE BEEN BREEDING FOR YEARS,
EVEN GENERATIONS KNOW A LOT ABOUT BREEDING, MORE THEN ANY SHOW BREEDER
I'VE TALKED TO. NOT JUST DOGMEN BUT I'VE ALSO FOUND BOTH GREYHOUND AND
ESPECIALLY HORSE BREEDERS KNOW A LOT ABOUT BREEDING, SELECTIVE
BREEDING AND GENETICS.
SOME OF THE OTHER BREEDERS DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY REDNOSE DOGS
CANNOT HAVE BLACK NOSE PUPS.
"They look for big strong dogs that can be made mean enough, usually
through
abuse and neglect, to fight with other dogs and to menace people."
IS THAT SO? MOST OF THE ONES I HAVE MET HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN OVER 35LBS.
I HAVE MET SOME WHO WERE ALMOST 50LBS BUT THOSE ARE FEW AND FAR
BETWEEN. THEY PREFER SMALLER DOGS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. ANY DOG CAN
BE MADE MEAN DESPITE SIZE AND ALL APBTS ARE STRONG, THE SMALLER
PUREBRED ONES USUALLY WIN MOST WEIGHT PULLED PER BODY POUND AGAINST
THE BIG BUR MUTTS. FIGHTING DOGS ARE NO MENACE TO POEPLE.

* MYTH: The " Pit Bull" breeds have been selectively bred to develop a
strong fighting instinct and a low level of fighting inhibition, which
make these breeds of dogs hazards to humans as well as to other
animals. Once again, I must point out the thousands of bull terrier
dogs who regularly participate every year without incident in
conformation shows, obedience trials, agility trials, weight pulls,
and other events sponsored by U.K.C. and other registries. By the way,
a review of the history of these breeds reveals that the 19th century
breeders selected dogs that would not attack humans because there were
always three people in the pit with the dogs. The dogs had to be
willing to be pulled out of the fight by their owner without causing
injury to the owner. The worst of the old fighting dogs were NEVER
bred or encouraged to attack people. That is a twentieth-century
phenomenon that has grown up with the crack epidemic in our cities.
The drug dealers and gamblers who keep "attack" dogs are certainly not
wasting their time or energy selectively breeding these dogs. They buy
dogs from irresponsible breeders and keep the mean ones.

OK LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT THESE "DOG FIGHTER" KNOW HOW TO SELECTIVLY
BREED PEOPLE FRIENDLY DOGS AND THEY DON'T GET BIT BY CULLING MAN
BITERS, BUT THEY AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO BREED GAME DOGS BY ONLY
BREEDING THE GAME ONES AND CULLING OUT THE CURS? YEAH THAT REALLY
MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, NOT!!!
AND IF THIS IS TRUE WHY WOULD IT MATTER I THOUGHT THESE PEOPLE DON'T
BREED PURE DOGS, SO THEIR DOGS AREN'T APBTS ANYWAY? THEY ARE JUST BIG,
STRONG DOGS MADE MEAN AND A MENACE TO PEOPLE, HMM CONTRADICTORY!

ITS NOT JUST THUGS IN INNER CITIES ITS LOW LIVES & BYBS EVERYWHERE,
BELIEVE ME I HAVE NEIGHBORS LIKE THIS WITH DIFFERENT BREEDS APBTS,
ROTTS, SHEPHERDS AND EVEN MIXES OF THESE BREEDS, NOW THEY ARE EVEN
TRYING TO HIT THE RARE BREEDS, PRESAS AND CORSOS MAINLY(to make more
money b/c they are rare and have more powerful guard dogs). IF THOSE
BREEDERS AREN'T TOO CAREFUL THERE BREED MAY END UP IN THE SAME LIGHT
AS THE PIT BULL. NOT TOO MENTION JUST PLAIN UNEDUCATED/IRRESPONSIBLE
OWNERS THAT NEVER TRAIN OR SOCIALIZE THERE DOGS AND LET THEM ROAM THE
NEIGHBORHOOD FREELY.

* MYTH: The " Pit Bull" breeds have a tendency to attack even those
persons that exhibit no provocative behavior. Dog attacks have become
such media events that virtually every reported dog bite is
transformed into an unprovoked attack on an innocent child by a
semi-mythical monster dog, the dreaded " Pit Bull." Most are
UNPROVOKED and by breeds other than the Bull Terrier breeds.

VERY TRUE I HAVE SEEN DOZENS OF CASES WHERE SOMEONE WAS BIT BY A BREED
OTHER THAN A PIT BULL AND YET PEOPLE CLAIM IT WAS A PIT BULL.
ON THE OTHER HAND THEY USUALLY ARE UNPROVOKED, AT LEAST MOST OF THE
ONES I HAVE SEEN ARE. SOME YES WERE PROVOKED OTHERS A CHILD IS ACTING
IN A NORMAL FASHION AND MAY NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN MESSING WITH THE DOG IN
ANYWAY. EITHER WAY THE CHILD SHOULDN'T BE ATTACKED BECAUSE OF A STUPID
DOG OWNER. I THINK THAT OWNERS SHOULD RECIEVE SERIOUS PRISON TIME AND
FINES WHEN THEIR DOGS HAVE BEEN BITING PEOPLE AND FINALLY ATTACK/KILL.

* MYTH: The " Pit Bull" breeds have a tendency to fight to the death
and never quit a fight once engaged, which results in more severe
injuries than those inflicted by other breeds. It is the nature of
animals to avoid fights where possible, to fight only as long as is
necessary, and to quit when beaten or when the opponent concedes.

FIRST OFF PIT BULLS ARE NOT OTHER DOGS. THEY HAVE BEEN BREED FOR A
CERTAIN REASON AND THAT WAS DOG FIGHTING AND BULL BAITING. ITS VERY
TRUE, LET ME STATE THAT AGAIN VERY TRUE THAT ONCE THEY ARE ENGAGED IN
COMBAT THEY ARE NOT LIKELY TO STOP WITHOUT INFLICTING SERIOUS INJURY
OR KILLING THE OTHER DOG. THAT IS WHY IT IS SO VERY IMPORTANT NOT TO
LEAVE A PIT UNSUPERVISED WITH ANOTHER DOG JUST INCASE A FIGHT WERE TO
HAPPEN. NOW BY ALL MEANS NO NOT MANY WILL FIGHT ANOTHER BULLDOG TO THE
DEATH AND NOT QUIT. WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS IN THESE SITUATIONS WHERE TWO
PITS HAVE FOUGHT IS ONE DID QUIT FIGHTING PROBABLY NOT TOO LONG INTO
THE FIGHT AND FOR THAT FACT WAS KILLED, THEN YOU COME HOME AND YOUR
PIT BULL IS WAITING HAPPY FOR YOU AFTER FINISHING OFF THE OTHER DOG
BECAUSE IT QUIT. THIS CAN BE AVOIDED BY KEEPING THEM SEPERATE WHEN NO
ONE IS AROUND. SO EVEN IF THE "OPPONENT" "CONCEDES" THE OTHER DOG MAY
NOT QUIT UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE.

IF DOGS FOUGHT TO THE DEATH YOU WOULDN'T SEE CHAMPION FIGHTING DOGS
WHO CAN WIN 7,8 OR + MATCHES AND NEVER BECOME A GRAND CHAMP BECAUSE
ONCE A DOG LOOSES A MATCH ITS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR GR CH TITLE. NO MATTER
HOW MANY MORE TIMES ITS MATCHED AND WINS, DUH!!

"Dog fighting created unnatural situations where dogs were not allowed
to
concede or to flee. Naturally, they fought to the death where they had
no alternative. Remember, too, these were artificially stimulated
attacks on other dogs--not attacks on persons."

LOL, GET SOME EDUCATION. DOGS WERE VERY MUCH ALLOWED TO BOTH CONCEED
AND FLEE. THAT IS HOW YOU GET LOSERS HUN, OR CURS WHICH EVER YOU
PREFER. A DOG CONCEEDS WHEN IT 1. STANDS THE SCRATCH 2. QUITS FIGHTING
AND REFUSES TO FIGHT BACK, AND AGAIN WONT SCRATCH WHEN TAKEN TO THE
LINE. 3. JUMPS THE PIT WALLS IN EXCAPE.
4. SOME DOGS ARE UNABLE TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT OR HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF
DAMGE. THESE DOGS ARE PICKED UP BY THEIR OWNERS IN ORDER TO SAVE THEIR
LIVES. THEY SILL LOOSE THE MATCH BUT AT LEAST YOU STILL HAVE YOUR DOG.
THE RISK OF THE DOG BEING KILLED OUTWAYS THE FACT THAT IT WILL BE
LOOSING THE MATCH.
HASN'T THIS PERSON TAKEN ANYTIME TO LEARN ANYTHING ABOUT THE BREED.
THESE DOGS WERE NEVER FOUGHT TO THE DEATH. THAT WASN'T THE POINT. A
DOG WOULD MOST LIKELY QUIT BEFORE THAT AND THE OTHER DOG WOULD BE THE
WINNER OR ONE WOULD BE PICKED UP BY ITS HANDLER SO IT WOULDN'T BE
KILLED.
LETS ALSO REMEMBER THAT THEY WERE ONLY STIMULATED BY SEEING THE OTHER
DOG IN THE PIT, BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY THEY ENJOYED IT. SOME DOGS GO
HOG NUTS WHEN THEY KNOW THEIR GOING TO A MATCH. NO ENCOURAGING IN
ANYWAY, SHAPE OR FORM. I'VE EVEN SEEN DOGS WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A
FIGHT AND DISCOURAGED FROM IT GO WILD WHEN THEY SEE ANOTHER DOG
WHINING AND SCREAMING, GETTING MORE FUSTRATED BECAUSE THEY AREN'T
ALLOWED TO DO SO. WHEN A DOG DIDN'T SCRATCH IT WASN'T FORCED TO FIGHT
ANY LONGER, THE MATCH WAS OVER.

JUST LET YOURSELF BE ENLIGHTENED AND LEARN THE TRUTH. THE TRUTH CAN
SAVE LIVES AND IS ALWAYS WORTH LETTING PEOPLE KNOW. WHY HIDE OR TRY TO
DENY THE TRUTH OF THE BREED. I THOUGHT THAT IS WAS BREEDERS/OWNERS
RESPONSIBILITY TO LET OTHERS KNOW THE TRUTH? EVEN THOUGH MOST DON'T
AGREE WITH DOG FIGHTING IT SHOULD STILL BE UNDERSTOOD THAT IT IS VERY
MUCH A PART OF THE BREED'S HISTORY AND ACCOUNTS FOR SOME OF ITS
CHARACTARISTICS. SAYING DOG FIGHTING HAS HAD NO AFFECT ON THESE DOGS
IS LIKE SAYING BLOODHOUNDS DON'T HAVE A NATURAL TENDENCY TO TRACK, OR
SHEPHERDS TO HEARD, WHICH OF COURSE THEY DO I HAVE OWNED SHEPHERD AND
ONE THING THEY LOVE IS HERDING WHETHER THEY ARE A VETERAN OR THIS IS
THEIR FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH A SHEEP. THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO AND JUST
NEED A LITTLE DIRECTION.