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Old October 7th 05, 01:45 AM
TheAmazingPuppyWizard@Mail.Com
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Default Are Omega 3 supplements from vet any different than supplements for humans?

HOWEDY NanK,

NanK wrote:
Kathleen wrote:

I seem to remember hearing that enteric coated
aspirin is worthless to dogs because it fails
to dissolve.


Kathleen


What does aspirin have to do with Omega 3
supplements? Did I miss a post here?


What are you doing giving your dogs ANY medications?

Anyway, no aspirin is given in my house as
it is known to cause ulcers in dogs.


Of curse.

There is an OTC product called TRAUMEEL
as a pain reliever.


Why do we have PAIN?

Pain comes from inapupriate thinking and living.

Do a web search and you will be surprised.


INDEEDY. That's why I've got my works documented
on the WWW, the world's largest printing press.

Safe even for infants.


Infants suffer GROWING PAINS of teething,
bone growth and developing antibodies.

No side effects.


A little pain never hurt anyone.

I am using the ointment on a young dog's torn
ligament and giving her the pills 2x daily.


Torn cruciate ligament is a stress
induced auto-immune dis-ease, NanK.

She has been doing very well.


You mean, DESPITE BEING CRITICALLY ILL???

It may not save her from ultimate surgery,


Perhaps that's a result of relying on pharmacuticals
instead of apupriate thinking eating and right living?

but it is buying us some time to see if she
can heal with proper nutritional supplementation
and reduced activity.


What's curious to me is HOWE COME your dog GOT
his ligament DIS-EASE, a CONdition from which
I myself am subject to and WOULD SUCCUMB TO
were it not for my practices.

Also, METCAM can be ordered by prescription
from your vet as an alternative.


I'd NEVER touch such a drug.

n


Stress Related Health Disorders -
Help! I'm KILLIN My Dogs/Kats/Kids,
And My Vet/Pediatrician Won't Tell Me
To STOP SCOLDING, SHAMING, HURTING,PUNISHING,
Shocking, And CHOKING Them!!!

Date: 2003-08-15 08:54:39 PST

HOWEDY People,

Just look at the reception the GOOD NEWS that
HURTING your dogs / kats / kids is RESPONSIBLE
for their UNDIAGNOSABLE / INCURABLE medical
problems has gotten, here abHOWETS.

You people would PREFER to KILL your dogs kats
and kids than handle and train them with human
decency and respect, and blame their DEATHS on
the failure of modern medicine to rehabilitate
these undiagnosed STRESS RELATED HEALTH DISORDERS,
because to ADMIT to the TRUTH would INDICT YOU as
ABUSERS, and THAT is something you'll fight to the
deaths of your pets and children, TO DEFEND.

NO WONDER your veterinary / physician will not come
forward and ADMIT the NATURE of these DEGENERATIVE
"diseases." They'll be CRUCIFIED, as you animal / child
abusers attempt to CRUCIFY The Puppy Wizard for bringin
you the GOOD NEWS that you don't have to continue to
have health temperament and behavior problems TILL
the sweet sting of DEATH alleviates YOUR VICTIM'S PAIN.

NO WONDER good folks like ed w of PET LOSS dot CON
WARN you not to TRUST The Puppy Wizard. The Puppy
Wizard's INFORMATION would BANKRUPT that viciHOWES
animal abuser who PROFITS FROM YOUR DEAD CRITTERS.

THE MOORE TRAUMATIC THEIR DEMISE, THE
MOORE MONEY HE GETS FROM YOUR GRIEF.

Here's a ANIMAL LOVER searching for A CURE
for a CONDITION that ONLY EXISTS in her critter's
MIND, caused by MISHANDLING by the RESPONSIBLE
PET OWNER:

"Lori Sherman" wrote in message
om...

I am new to this group,


Perhaps you should read The Puppy Wizard's Archives
before spHOWETIN off, lori?

and I want to mention how annoying the "Puppy Wizard" is.


SHOWENDS like you're FEELIN GUILTY, lori?

All your rambling on is clogging up any ability to do a
decent search in this forum.


The RESEARCH is DONE, lorie. We KNOW HOWE
COME YOUR DOG IS DYING ON YOU.

YOU ARE KILLIN HIM.

SLOWLY.

I could respect your opinions if you had the ability to
properly write your thoughts and opinions in a coherent
sentence with correct spelling.


You think The Puppy Wizard's SPELLin has anything
to do with YOUR PHYSICAL and EMOTIONAL ABUSE
of your critters???

You spell like a 3rd grade educated hillbilly from Tennesee.


You mean Tennessee?

You SHOWEND like a DOG ABUSER being HOWETED
by The Puppy Wizard. If you DISS-AGREE with the
INFORMATION, let's DISS-CUSS it and PROVE YOUR POINT?

YOU CAN'T. Your critter is DYING because YOU HURT IT.

The random bolding is out of control!!


YOU ARE KILLING YOUR DOG, WHOM YOU MADE SICK.

It is really too bad that you feel the need to ruin the
ability of this group to actually help people with the
postings here.


Well golly gee, lorie. If YOU didn't FEEL GUILTY abHOWET
doin what your PET PROFESSIONALS TAUGHT YOU to
do KNOWING FULL WELL that JERKING CHOKING
SHOCKING PUNISHING CRATING and USING AVERSIVES
is NOT DECENT, HUMANE TREATMENT of DUMB ANIMALS,
then you wouldn't OBJECT to THE FACTS, lori.

Granted that much of this INFORMATION has only
recently been PROVEN at the UNIVERSITY level, but
The Puppy Wizard has been TEACHING THIS for many
years in advance of the "medical research findings."

Please get a life, one that doesn't involve posting here!


YOUR DOG IS DYING BECAUSE YOU HURT and INTIMIDATE
HIM as YOU TRY TO HURT and INTIMIDATE The Puppy
Wizard for BRINGIN YOU the GOOD NEWS that YOU CAN
CURE these exotic DISEASES by simply REVERSING YOUR
HANDLING METHODS.

"The Puppy Wizard" wrote in message
arthlink.net...

HOWEDY nomdeplume,

"Nomdeplume" wrote in message
...
On 22 Jul 2003 04:30:51 GMT, (Jag795) wrote:


Hello Everyone,


Hello,
I'm so sorry you are going through this.


INDEEDY! Particularly on accHOWEnt of "this," is
casued by STRESS...

Nothing can worry us more than our precious long-time
companions when things get rought.


WRONG. Nuthin can worry "us" MOORE than GETTIN
BAGGED for having CAUSED HOWER DOG'S temperament,
behavior, and health problems... That's HOWE COME your
pals organize massive KILLFILE The Puppy Wizard and
complain to HIS ISP campaigns.

I hope you get some answers and very soon.


The ANSWERS are what they FEAR. They want
EXXXCUSES and drugs too compensate for the
high level of stress their dogs and children grow
up and GO NUTS, GET SICK, and DIE FROM.

May I recommend a book for you?
http://www.petcarebooks.com
It is Dogs, Diet, and Disease.


Looks good, but The Puppy Wizard expects they'll
MISS the IMPORTANT issue of STRESS from
traditional handling and training:

"This book delves into some of today's most troubling
canine illnesses, including diabetes mellitus, pancreatitis,
Cushing disease and excess cortisol production,
hypothyroidism, liver disease, and kidney degeneration.

It takes an indepth look at what factors really cause canine
illness, options for treatment, and provides detailed
instructions on how to care for chronically ill dogs.

"Dogs, Diet, and Disease" makes an excellent companion
book to "Living With Blind Dogs" when dealing with the
excess cortisol symptoms."

Excess cortisol and interluken-6 are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
I believe it can't help but be useful no matter what
your dog's final diagnosis is.


The DIAGNOSIS will NEVER BE FHOWEND, because
NOBODY will blame traditional CORRECTIONS and
PUNISHMENT and CRATING as THE CAUSE of
LIFE THREATENING STRESS.

Now, she recommends a raw diet, but has
suggestions if you don't want to go that way too.


Diet has little to do with the CAUSE of these conditions...
except that the nutrients the critter needs are not able to
be absorbed, WHEN STRESSED.

Sara D


Now mind you....I don't know for sure that my Bo Bo
has it yet.


jenn's Bo Bo is UNDER STRESS, which is HOWE COME
he's SICK, like professor SCRUFF SHAKE'S little dog Maxie
The Magnificent FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive
Masturbator.

It's taken Maxie 5 years of STRESS as EVIDENCED
by his OCD behaviors,to finally BREAK DHOWEN, physically.
But I have been reading and researching so much....


INDEEDY! You'll DO ANYTHING to lay the blame on
a NON EXISTENT physical cause, even at the expense
of KILLIN the dog, TO BE FAIR.

I just wanted to talk to some people about it.


Well, we're in the right place, as SO MANY of
HOWER DOGS HAVE SIMILAR CONDITIONS.

I talk to the Vet tomorrow to get him scheduled
for the tests.


Your vet is likeWIZE, at a LOSS.

I will keep you all posted.


INDEEDY! Cause YOU'LL NEVER CURE HIM.

At least, not withHOWET ceasing the STRESS
casued by tellin IT "NO!" and jerking and choking
IT on lead and locking IT in a box and trying to
get HOWET callin THAT, trainin.

Thanks for listening.


Do you know HOWE to set up your KILLFILTER?
Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

Ask liea altshuller, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog
abuser phd psychoclHOWEN, HOWE to killfile...

Thank You,


Your welcome!

Jan


Canine Cushing's Disease
Author: Kate Connick =A92002
Cushing's Disease (hyperadrenocorticism) is a
common condition in older dogs, often mistaken
for the aging process itself. Dogs gain weight, lose
hair, urinate in the house, and make owners begin
to prematurely consider euthanasia.

Yet Cushing's disease is treatable and that treatment
can result in a longer, more comfortable life for the
dog and its owner. Thus, it is important for the regular
pet owner to learn the basic facts about Cushing's disease.
In health: In order to understand Cushing's disease,
one needs to understand the basics of the negative
feedback loop that operates in a normal, healthy dog.
The pituitary gland, located at the base of the brain,
produces ACTH (adrenocorticotrophic hormone), as
directed by the hypothalamus (another part of the brain).
This hormone is released into the bloodstream and
stimulates the body's two adrenal glands, located
near the kidneys, to secrete glucocorticoid (cortisone-like
or cortisol) hormones into the bloodstream."

***EVERY TIME YOU TELL "IT" "NO!" or lock IT
in a box for ten minutes reflection afer an appupriate
SCRUFF SHAKE.***

"Cortisol helps the body respond to stress. It is
necessary for life and impacts a wide variety of
bodily functions including blood sugar levels, fat
metabolism, skeletal muscles, kidney function,
nervous system, cardiovascular system, and
immune response.

ACTH/cortisol secretion is increased due to stress,
including infection, pain, surgery, trauma, cold
temperatures. When the blood cortisol levels are
high enough, the pituitary stops secreting ACTH.
When the blood cortisol levels dip low enough, the
pituitary secretes more ACTH. The adrenals respond
by secreting glucocorticoid hormones in response to
the pituitary, just as the pituitary responds by secreting
ACTH in response to the adrenals.

The net effect is that a mildly fluctuating balance is
achieved. This is an oversimplified picture of cortisol
homeostasis in the healthy dog.

In Cushing's Disease: The feedback loop has gone
awry in Cushing's disease for one of three reasons:
a pituitary tumor, an adrenal tumor, or veterinary
interference."

***AND MISHANDLING, or ABUSE.***

"The result is a chronic excess of blood cortisol."

**********SHAAAZZZAAAMMM!!!*************

"In effect, the dog is being poisoned with too much
cortisol and cannot rely on its own feedback mechanism
to regulate the blood cortisol level.
Pituitary Dependant Hyperadrenocorticism: The most
common cause of Cushing's disease is a microscopic,
benign pituitary tumor (microadenoma) which
oversecretes ACTH and ignores the adrenals' response.
50% of pituitary tumors are less than 3mm in diameter.

The dog's pituitary keeps cranking out ACTH, causing
the adrenals to keep cranking out cortisol, yet the pituitary
does not respond to the elevated blood cortisol levels by
stopping its release of ACTH. 85% of Cushing's cases
are pituitary dependent. Dogs with pituitary dependent
hyperadrenocorticism tend to have two very large adrenal
glands, as both are constantly working to keep up production
of excess cortisol."


Death Producing Ulcers: "Emotional Influences
On Health & Behavior" Dr. George Von Hilsheimer

Emotional Influences On Behavior

Illness is directly related to depression and lack of
adjustment, particularly to a new environment (Parens,
McConville & Kaplan, 1966).

A WIDE RANGE of PSYCHOSOMATIC or
CORTICOVISCERAL DIS-EASES was surveyed
by Wittkower (1965) to demonstrate the enormous
importance of emotional factors in general health.

Interview findings of emotional material (recently
experienced hopelessness) pryor to biological
examinations correctly identified 11 out of 19 with
cervical cancer, and 25 of 32 who were cancer free
even though psychological tests failed to discriminate
these groups (Schmale & Iker, 1966)

150 lung cancer patients showed significantly
constricted expression of emotions. The had fewer
childhood behavior problems, and lower neuroticism
score than their cancer free controls. Heavy cigarette
smokers who DO NOT INHALE are more apt to have LUNG
CANCER. They, too, show LOWER neuroticism scores.
Among heavy cigarette smokers poor emotional
expression is as highly related to cancer as urban
residence and is more important than a chronic cough
or an air polluted environment (Kissen, 1966).

A ten year observation of all the women who developed
cancer in an isolated pupulation of 2,550 showed that
they tended to be unstable or sub stable personalities
characterized by melancholy and extraversion,
especially marked with those of an undecided body
build (Hagll, 1966). Personality dynamics effect both
the development of cancer and it's SITE. Cancer
may result from what appears to be a failure to grow--
somatically, behaviorally and psychologically
(Grinker, 1966).

In 109 cases leukemia and lymphoma were associated
with a number of losses or separations and with
feelings of sadness, anxiety, anger or hopelessness.
The PRIMARY FACTOR seems to be the shame and
hopelessness of running out of psychological resources
(Green, 1966). Cervical cancer patients are less
emotionally responsive, more isolative, and less
frequently diagnosed as having clinical neuroses than
cancer free patients. There is NO CLEAR DIFFERENCE in
their FEELINGS and ATTITUDES toward coitus (Rotkin,
Qunk, & Couchman, 1965).

Schmidt (1966) surveyed nearly 100 studies of
behaviorally induced DIS-EASE in animals CONFIRMING
and EXTENDING the DATA on PEOPLE. Behaviorally
induced DIS-EASES tend to fall into two groups;
(1) Hysteriform problems, which INCLUDE HYSTERICAL
SEIZURES and FORMS of AGGRESSION as well as
collective panic and epilepsies;
(2) organic modifications, including functional
difficulties and lesions affecting gastro intestinal,
cardio vascular, respiratory, sexual, endocrine, skin,
urinary, and neuro muscular systems.

It is INTERESTING, and SLIGHTLY HORRIFYING,
to note that the ONLY SCIENTIFIC RELEVANCE of
the standard six hour school day that I have been able
to detect in research is that Sawrey and Weisz quite
by accident found that six hours on and six hour off of
"EXECUTIVE BEHAVIOR" in monkeys was the ONLY
TIME STRUCTURE that INDUCED DEATH PRODUCING
ULCERS.

IOW, YOU'RE KILLIN YOUR DOGS, PEOPLE!!!

The Puppy Wizard been tellin you so for 5 years nHOWE.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. } : ~ )


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Old October 7th 05, 06:00 PM
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Clarification: The original poster wanted to use coated vitamin
supplements, and the talk gradually changed to aspirin. Mentioning
TRAUMEEL was in response to the aspirin dialog.

Sorry.
n
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Old October 8th 05, 12:11 AM
WienerDog
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 16:36:21 GMT, NanK wrote:

wrote:

Jerry,


Why do we have PAIN?

She twisted her leg jumping off a concrete ledge chasing a bunny.

Pain comes from inapupriate thinking and living.

She was quite joyful at the time.


Torn cruciate ligament is a stress
induced auto-immune dis-ease, NanK.


You mean, DESPITE BEING CRITICALLY ILL???

Took her to the vet yesterday; he was delighted to say she is healing
nicely and will not need an operation. I showed him the TRAUMEEL
package insert - it's all herbal; it's used to reduce the swelling in
her knee.


Dear NanK,

You just got hooked by replying to this well known
netloon and troll. Once he baits you as he does
with others, you became troll bait and he will flame
you and harass you through this newsgroup and in email.

PLEASE killfile this well known Jerry Howe aka
The Amazing Puppy Wizard who is using alot of alias in
here. He is a pathological liar and net kook.

All he does is slander and defame people in
here. He knows nothing about dog training or
canine behavior. He just makes this up and
has been trolling this newsgroup for years.

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Old October 8th 05, 12:11 AM
WienerDog
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:00:34 GMT, NanK wrote:

Clarification: The original poster wanted to use coated vitamin
supplements, and the talk gradually changed to aspirin. Mentioning
TRAUMEEL was in response to the aspirin dialog.

Sorry.
n


You just got hooked by replying to this well known
netloon and troll. Once he baits you as he does
with others, you became troll bait and he will flame
you and harass you through this newsgroup and in email.

PLEASE killfile this well known Jerry Howe aka
The Amazing Puppy Wizard who is using alot of alias in
here. He is a pathological liar and net kook.

All he does is slander and defame people in
here. He knows nothing about dog training or
canine behavior. He just makes this up and
has been trolling this newsgroup for years.

 




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