Liisa, these pictures were taken of a supposed Doberman puppy rescued
from an Ohio drug raid. FWIW, he does look like a Doberman puppy of that
age. If not for the color I'd definitely tag him as Dobe. I'd guess if
there's a mix it's Doberman/Pittie, but I don't know merling in pitties
either. Nor do I know of merling in any of the hound breeds that
wouldn't also include a good bit of white--maybe Catahoula, but those
are pretty darn uncommon and not likely to be seen captured from a drug
raid in Ohio.

Blue Dobermans are seen in this country. But I have never seen anything
like this.

http://www.ddgraphix.com/merling1.jpg
http://www.ddgraphix.com/merling2.jpg

Thoughts?

Robin Nuttall wrote in
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http://www.ddgraphix.com/merling1.jpg
http://www.ddgraphix.com/merling2.jpg

Hmm. It really has to be merle and not some weird skin condition or such
stuff. They grey coat areas are so dark, but I've seen very dark merling
just like this in breeds with similar smooth coat, like Dachshund and
Beauceron.

One parent has to be merle, so this can't be a purebred Dobermann pup.
There doesn't seem to be any extra toes on back legs, so it can't be a
Beauceron either (and I don't think that that breed is too common over
there). There are merle Pit Bulls (perhaps actually Catahoula crosses and
not purebred Pits), so color doesn't make that Dobe/Pit cross impossible.

There really isn't even one white hair, but I think that smooth
Collie/Dobermann cross could be still possible.

Liisa

Liisa Sarakontu wrote:
Robin Nuttall wrote in
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http://www.ddgraphix.com/merling1.jpg
http://www.ddgraphix.com/merling2.jpg


Hmm. It really has to be merle and not some weird skin condition or such
stuff.

Agreed. The coat is there, and what's there is shiny. The coat is
somewhat thin overall but that's not unusual for a Doberman blue.

They grey coat areas are so dark, but I've seen very dark merling
just like this in breeds with similar smooth coat, like Dachshund and
Beauceron.

I didn't think of Beauceron. The blue ground on the coat is very typical
blue dobe color.

One parent has to be merle, so this can't be a purebred Dobermann pup.

I'd hope not!

There doesn't seem to be any extra toes on back legs, so it can't be a
Beauceron either (and I don't think that that breed is too common over
there). There are merle Pit Bulls (perhaps actually Catahoula crosses and
not purebred Pits), so color doesn't make that Dobe/Pit cross impossible.

I've never seen one, they are probably no more common than beauceron.

There really isn't even one white hair, but I think that smooth
Collie/Dobermann cross could be still possible.

I don't think so, I think the coat would be at least somewhat rougher
and the head much narrower.

"Robin Nuttall" wrote in message
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Liisa, these pictures were taken of a supposed Doberman puppy rescued from
an Ohio drug raid. FWIW, he does look like a Doberman puppy of that age.
If not for the color I'd definitely tag him as Dobe. I'd guess if there's
a mix it's Doberman/Pittie, but I don't know merling in pitties either.
Nor do I know of merling in any of the hound breeds that wouldn't also
include a good bit of white--maybe Catahoula, but those are pretty darn
uncommon and not likely to be seen captured from a drug raid in Ohio.

Blue Dobermans are seen in this country. But I have never seen anything
like this.

I'm in love - can you send her over here?
I usually hate merle, but she is tooo adorable with her little cheeks 'n all


Diana

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Diana wrote:
"Robin Nuttall" wrote in message
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Blue Dobermans are seen in this country. But I have never seen anything
like this.


I'm in love - can you send her over here?
I usually hate merle, but she is tooo adorable with her little cheeks 'n all


She's a he... but I'm not sure they adopt from Ohio to the UK. He is a
cute little bugger though.

Robin Nuttall wrote in
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Agreed. The coat is there, and what's there is shiny. The coat is
somewhat thin overall but that's not unusual for a Doberman blue.

Oh, the pup really is both blue and merle! So it is a true blue merle and
not like any Collie or Sheltie "blue merles", which are always just normal
black-based merles. I think I've seen a (true) blue merle before this just
in Border Collies.

Anyway, the blue base color means that this pup is hardly half Beauceron or
Collie, as these breeds don't have dd blue. I don't know about Catahoulas,
but at least Pits have blue too.

There really isn't even one white hair, but I think that smooth
Collie/Dobermann cross could be still possible.

I don't think so, I think the coat would be at least somewhat rougher
and the head much narrower.

Ok, next try: 3/4 Dobermann and 1/4 Collie (either coat type)?

Liisa

Thoughts?



I think that's an adorable dog!

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She's a he... but I'm not sure they adopt from Ohio to the UK. He is a
cute little bugger though.

Ooops, I saw nipples, and I guess cos Cin has a smll hernia, I didn't think
'willy' lol
Pete would say no anyway (miserable old g*t), but Cin and I would love a
little baby bruv


Diana

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From: (Robin*Nuttall)
but I don't know merling in pitties either.
Merling does not exist in purebred pit bulls. It only crops up in
questionable kennels that, surprisingly enough, have Catahoulas.

Debbie

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There are merle Pit Bulls (perhaps actually Catahoula crosses and not
purebred Pits)

No 'perhaps' to it, merle is NOT a color found in purebred pit bulls.
Merle pit bulls are mutts.

Debbie