Greets to all!

I have an older Cairn terrier - best guess is between 4 and 7 years old.
I've had him for only 6 weeks - he is a rescued dog - neutered in early Oct
just before I got him. He is the sweetest animal I've known, but 'we' do
have a bit of a problem: He doesn't understand that he is to pee OUTSIDE --
not in the kitchen! :-(

What makes things confusing is that he will go for days and everything is
fine. Then I'll walk into the kitchen and there is a puddle! And worse - it
may happen just after I've had him out for a walk.

I'm in an apartment and work here as well so I'm always around. I do have a
crate for him and he likes to go in it. But I'm not sure how to use it in a
case like this. I don't ever "yell" at him but have (in frustration) tried
to let him know that that puddle of pee is NOT a good thing... :-) (I'm
sure he didn't have a clue as to what I was yammering about)

SO: I'm looking for ideas on how I can show/teach this GOOD (but older) dog
that he is to pee outside - NOT in the kitchen.

He does his other business outside without a hitch. Could this be
stress-related? I work on the computer all day and it must be a pretty dull
life for him... Maybe his is just bored...

=Alan R.

Alan Reinhart said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

SO: I'm looking for ideas on how I can show/teach this GOOD
(but older) dog that he is to pee outside - NOT in the
kitchen.

As a start, when he does pee outside, lots of praise and a treat
or two. When he pees in your kitchen, clean it up - nothing
negative.

He does his other business outside without a hitch. Could
this be stress-related? I work on the computer all day and
it must be a pretty dull life for him... Maybe his is just
bored...

....or maybe he needs to be put on a schedule. Every hour, hit
ctrl-s and take him out for a short pee'n'play.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

I would do like Rocky suggest along with keeping hin in the room with you at
all times. He should not be roaming the house if he can't be trusted. If
you have to actually tether him to your chair or shut the door to the room
you are working in do so. The point is to be able to watch him and catch
him before he makes a mess and have him let you know when he wants out. You
will soon see him coming to you and nudging you when he wants to go. I've
used this method with 3 dogs and each one of them finally got it and would
come get me no matter what I was doing to go let them out.

I never did get the idea of having the dog go to the door. Since you aren't
at the door all the time they should come to you.

Celeste

"Rocky" wrote in message
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Alan Reinhart said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

SO: I'm looking for ideas on how I can show/teach this GOOD
(but older) dog that he is to pee outside - NOT in the
kitchen.

As a start, when he does pee outside, lots of praise and a treat
or two. When he pees in your kitchen, clean it up - nothing
negative.

He does his other business outside without a hitch. Could
this be stress-related? I work on the computer all day and
it must be a pretty dull life for him... Maybe his is just
bored...

...or maybe he needs to be put on a schedule. Every hour, hit
ctrl-s and take him out for a short pee'n'play.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

"Spot" said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

I never did get the idea of having the dog go to the door.
Since you aren't at the door all the time they should come
to you.

You're spot on there. My dogs come to me, though one runs back
and forth twixt door and me if I don't clue in.

An early step, though, is the puppy acknowledging *in any way*
that it needs to go out. If that involves the puppy sitting in
front of the door and saying "Ahem", go with it. Train them to
your preference later.

Celeste

Celeste, please stop top-posting, you are very difficult to
respond to.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Hi All!

Thanks for the different ideas.

On 11/18/05 7:31 PM, in article bnuff.171$%%5.99@trndny06, "Spot"
wrote:

I would do like Rocky suggest along with keeping hin in the room with you at
all times. He should not be roaming the house if he can't be trusted. If
you have to actually tether him to your chair or shut the door to the room
you are working in do so

I think Jack and I are getting on fairly well. I have put a baby-gate across
the kitchen when I'm working at the computer but make sure he has plenty of
chances to go in there for water and food, but while I'm near by. After one
day it seems to be working.

Alison's thought that he might not want to pee while next to me on a walk is
an interesting thought. He does have no prob with pooping... But "making
water" seems to be a little diff. He does come to me every so often with an
intense stare (the only thing that makes him bark is sirens, opera singers
and when he wants MORE peanut butter) -- and it seems he really does need to
go out then. But I don't think he really does know how to "ask" to go out.
He barely knows how to play! I can't imagine somebody having a dog as sweet
as he is and never playing with him, or worse - letting him get away. He was
found out along a highway... Sheeshe!

=Alan R.

On 2005-11-18 22:46:32 -0500, Alan Reinhart said:

He does come to me every so often with an
intense stare (the only thing that makes him bark is sirens, opera singers
and when he wants MORE peanut butter) -- and it seems he really does need to
go out then. But I don't think he really does know how to "ask" to go out.

This is asking to go out. We had trained dogs to lick our hands when
they needed to go out, but we never trained our present dog to do this.
She just comes over and stares at us. We understand that she only gives
us the "look" when she needs to go out, so aside from drawing us a
sign, we understand what she is communicating.

She knows how to ask, we just need to pay attention to her.

"Alan Reinhart" wrote in message
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Hi All!

Alison's thought that he might not want to pee while next to me on a
walk is
an interesting thought. He does have no prob with pooping... But
"making
water" seems to be a little diff. He does come to me every so often
with an
intense stare (the only thing that makes him bark is sirens, opera
singers
and when he wants MORE peanut butter) -- and it seems he really does
need to
go out then. =Alan R.

When he does this ask him if he wants to go potty and take him out to
the yard. After a while, when you say that he'll start getting excited
in by "By Jove, he's got it" way and then you'll know he wants to go
out to the toilet.
Alison

all my three stand at the door, i get well come on then open it