Jeff Dege wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 07:32:40 +0000, TOTE wrote:

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:41:27 -0600 Jeff Dege whittled these words:

It's a corrections, plain and simple. But it's controllable to a degree
that other aversives are not. The levels used in training seem to be
milder than collar corrections.

If you believe an ecollar can only be used to correct unwanted behavior
(or failure to perform) I suggest you explore further. There is more to
it than that.

I believe that a shock from an e-collar is an aversive. That trainers who
pretend that they can condition their dog to react to a shock as if it
were a reward are lying to their clients or to themselves.

You can believe what you wish, of course. It's a (mostly) free
country. You're wrong on this one, though.

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Mark Shaw (And Baron) moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
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