On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:33:13 -0500, Jack "The Unpalatable Barbarian"
Morrison wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:18:42 -0600, Jeff Dege
wrote:

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Far too often, a dog owner buys an electronic collar because Fido runs too
big, hunts out of control, and responds to the "Here" command only if he
feels like it. So John Trainer straps a collar on his rebel and turns him
loose. When he later gives the command "Here", the delinquent gives John a
more-than-subtle "To heck with you!" response. John then fries (insert
"zaps", "cooks" or any other word here that typifies improper electronic
collar use) Fido.
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You sure seem to focus a lot on the *wrong* ways that one can use an
e-collar, Jeff.

Talk to some of the animal behavioralists, sometime. There are a lot of
wrong ways to use an e-collar, and they end up dealing with the
consequences.

While at the same time refusing to accept the existence of *right*
ways.

I am fully aware of the existence of right ways. I've seen too many
happy, healthy, and amazingly-well trained bird dogs to believe that they
cannot be used successfully.

And when my own dog failed to progress in training, I introduced an
e-collar with him, and it has worked well.

But it's a powerful tool, and it needs to be used with caution and
consistency.

--
Herein lies the value of free speech. It makes concealment difficult,
and, in the long run, impossible. One heretic, if he is right, is as
good as a host. He is bound to win in the long run. It is thus no
wonder that foes of the enlightenment always begin their proceedings by
trying to deny free speech to their opponents. It is dangerous to them
and they know it. So they have at it by accusing these opponents of all
sorts of grave crimes and misdemeanors, most of them clearly absurd -
in other words, by calling them names and trying to scare them.
- H. L. Mencken