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HELP ME..Is There ANY medicine/herbs to stop/cure the recurring growth in the mouth?



 
 
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Old March 11th 04, 08:24 AM
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Default HELP ME..Is There ANY medicine/herbs to stop/cure the recurring growth in the mouth?

My little full mask pekingese dog had it's growth removed along the
gumline in his lower jaw 3 weeks ago (it is about the size of a
grape). But now the growth is coming back again.

Is There ANY medicine/herbs/vitamins (whatever can heal stuff) to
stop/cure the growth in the mouth?

Pls share your experiences..
linda
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Old March 11th 04, 06:04 PM
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I did a search on the lumps you describe and found there is something
called
an epulis.

Here is what I found regarding those fast-growing growths. Unless your
vet sent them to be tested you have no reason to believe they are
cancerous and IF they are not cancerous they are only a problem if
they bleed. One post suggested having them removed via lasor instead
of cutting them out. Anyway please read this and I hope it helps. You
need to ask the vet IF they were biopsied though.


* These are benign tumors that occur around the base of the teeth
(often between two teeth). There is some chance that the problem could
just be hypertrophy (overgrowth) of the gums, especially if there is
dental tartar or other irritation of the gums but usually this problem
affects more than one or two teeth.

Less commonly, lumps like this are due to oral cancers such as
fibrosarcoma or squamous cell carcinoma.
It is hard to tell an epulis from a fibrosarcoma by sight. For this
reason, we usually remove epulides when we clean teeth and find them
or when they are obvious on a physical exam and we submit them
for examination by a pathologist if the dog's owners wish to be
cautious about the possibility of oral
cancers.
Epulides are much more common than the malignant oral cancers but
there is no reason not to be
cautious and ask your vet to remove this lump and have it examined by
a pathologist, especially since
it is worrying you.
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Old March 11th 04, 06:34 PM
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A vet should have some good suggestions!

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My little full mask pekingese dog had it's growth removed along the
gumline in his lower jaw 3 weeks ago (it is about the size of a
grape). But now the growth is coming back again.

Is There ANY medicine/herbs/vitamins (whatever can heal stuff) to
stop/cure the growth in the mouth?

Pls share your experiences..
linda



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Old March 12th 04, 03:28 AM
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My little full mask pekingese dog had it's growth removed along the
gumline in his lower jaw 3 weeks ago (it is about the size of a
grape). But now the growth is coming back again.

Is There ANY medicine/herbs/vitamins (whatever can heal stuff) to
stop/cure the growth in the mouth?

Pls share your experiences..
linda


My foster dog has the identical thing going on. She had her growth removed
while undergoing a routine dental in December. The vet used the laser and
thought she got good margins. Within 4 weeks, it was back - bigger than
ever.

We biopsied it and it is non-cancerous.

After an appointment at the soft tissue surgical department of the local
veterinary teaching hospital, they are now recommending surgery. The
medical term for hers was a right manibular acanthomatous epilus. And she
needs a segmental mandibulectomy.

I saw the radiographs and you can see where this type of tumor is actually
located in the jawbone. Hers has almosts reached the bottom of her jaw.
So.... they will be taking out that entire section of jawbone, and replacing
it with a section of her rib and affixing it with a plate to stabilize.
it's going to be expensive surgery, but the other option is to wait and
maybe have to have her entire right lower mandible removed, then you have to
deal with a potential for mandibular shifting, dental work and making her
look really funny. Besides, the tumor can grow and impact her eating /
chewing and can rub and bleed as it grows and gets cut by her own teeth
(depends where it's located....)

This growth WILL NOT go away on it's own, or with herbs, etc. I asked for
all alternative treatments, including "wait and see". Have a biopsy done to
rule out a malignancy, and then surgery is probably recommended. the earlier
it's caught - the better - if Precious's growth had been caught eariler, we
might have been able to just take a "scoop" of her jaw out and replace it
with epoxy-like stuff instead of the rib graft. Hers was particulary
aggressive and fast growing, but I never thought it was in the bone.....

Janni


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Old March 12th 04, 04:20 AM
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Thanks for your input. I will call the vet today to see what the best solutions...

linda
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Old March 14th 04, 06:31 AM
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so what happen next and what solution you have soughted ? Pls advise.
I don't know if I should sent to dog for another operation to remove
the growth..I am just an average income earner..but I love my dog. I
have given him most of the best comfort and good dog food as much as I
can afford..but when this disaster strike on him..i weep and pray in
the night..
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is there anything that can stop the tumour from growing ? vitamins? eg cartilage ?
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Old March 14th 04, 05:54 PM
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No. No vitamins or herbs can help. don't waste your money trying any
of that. You need to call your vet and say "What did you find out from
pathology when you checked the growth you removed from my dog?"

That is step number one. Before moving forward on ANY future treatment
or thoughts concerning these growths you need to know if they
were(are)benign or malignant.

Benign means they are a nusiance but not deadly; does not threaten
health.

Malignant means
tending to produce death or deterioration malignant malaria;
especially : tending to infiltrate, metastasize, and terminate fatally
malignant tumor


Without testing what is inside one of these growths treatment is hit
and miss. Spend a bit of money to do that (pathology testing for a
sample that can be scrapped or needle aspirated from one of these
growths shouldn't cost more than say $50 -$70 american dollars)






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is there anything that can stop the tumour from growing ? vitamins? eg cartilage ?

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Old March 19th 04, 07:35 AM
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I booked an morning appointment today with a senior vet of a animal
hospital. I have my dog went through some blood test test on
kidney/liver idexx, heartworm test and x ray test to confirm the
health status. it was all positive, except his heart is abit largeer
than normal.

When he examined the growth along the gumline and beneath the jaw. he
told me that he is very certain that it is a cancerous growth. now i
am given 2 choice again, euthanisia or surgery.. and was told again
that there is a risk factor to perform anaesthesia to the dog as the
heart is weak due to aging. And was told if the growth did invade the
jaw bone or something nasty, the entire jaw bone or part of it will
need to be remove. It is going to be a long hours surgery procedure.
Afterwhich the dog will have to put a feeding tube into it';s stomach
for at least 2 weeks until the "repair" jaw is fully recover. And all
this surgery will only prolong his lifespan and "hopefully" to prevent
the growth to grow back again, but cannot cure the cancer in the
body.

In the hospital, I met some people with their very sick pets,they walk
in to put their pet down. although their pets are alive but sick..I
felt so sad for them, Yes they are reluctant to let go and most of
them were weeping but their pets not knowing why....My eyes were red
and tears flowing down because I share the same feeling for them. It
is a vety painful and heartbreak decision to make in my life time.
Unless my feelings are hurt otherwise I have never felt like this
before. One particular lady in her early twenties with her parents
came in this morning , they had a sick and dying soon pomenarian dog,
about 6 years old. she told me that the dog has been very sick lately
and was suffering some fatal diseases..and dying soon. Infact, the
cruel things is that the father actually uses a towel to suffocate
the sick dog and he told the daughter it is better to let the dog died
in their hands than by the injection. ..anyhow the sick dog is very
weak to resist the suffocation and it died 3 hours ago while waiting
for the service.

I am in a dilemma and yes the $ involve is huge and the pain for the
dog is unbearable.

lina
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Old March 24th 04, 02:03 PM
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my dog condition is deteriorating..he eat very little but drink alot,
can't even clear his bowel only urine. he can't walk properly and
panting. I think I will let him see the rainbow bridge naturally... at
home...i think..he can't probably survive by end of the month..
 




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