On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:07:59 GMT, , clicked
their heels and said:

If you do not want to be cleaning up a few blood spots do not
have a bitch don't put the dog through the stress of having half its
stomach ripped out by some vet.

Nothing at all to do with the stomach - completely different organ.

--
Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfr...bedience/album

I would consider it as dog behaviour, but not playful. Bonding, yes.
Interacting, yes. But it's a gesture of dominance, and it may be the only
way a lame testerone driven dog, or a rather aggressive dog will approach
and handle interaction with another male or female, especially a male. When
I see that in my dogs I stop it in my tracks.



Now theres another instance when this happens, that's when the bitches are
in heat. The males AND a couple of the females will ride the bitch in heat,
when she is in prime heat, after about a week or more into heat. When the
males do it, I stop them, but not in a convicting manner, I just tell them
to quit it.

When the females ride the females, I don't usually stop them, I just laugh
at them. They mean no agression, so will not fight over it, and it donds
them extremely tight when they do this over the years during their heat
cycles.



So theres 3 instances.



A male humping another male for no reason other than to be exercising his
testerone to the relationship between your bank account and your local vet.



A male humping a female that is in heat which might get him bit, or her
pregnant,



And a female humping a female in heat, which is absolutely no big deal.



I missed the original question, but HTH


"Janet B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:07:59 GMT, , clicked
their heels and said:

If you do not want to be cleaning up a few blood spots do not
have a bitch don't put the dog through the stress of having half its
stomach ripped out by some vet.

Nothing at all to do with the stomach - completely different organ.

--
Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfr...bedience/album

In article . net,
wolf " wrote:
I missed the original question, but HTH

Not much. Given how you've described how you keep your
dogs, I'm pretty appalled that your dogs are intact.

Anyway, whether or not humping is a problem tends to be
situational. If don't understand that then you're a pretty
good example of a situation in which it's far better for
dogs to be chained than not to be chained.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community.

Not much. Given how you've described how you keep your
dogs, I'm pretty appalled that your dogs are intact.


hehe, you mean how i keep them in a group right? i didnt realize that
peopel are intrigued by that, maybe thats why no one wants to talk about it,
they think its suicide.

no fights... dogs are all happy as can be. i have a unique relationship
with them.

basically unconditional love goes both ways over here.

also, i let 1-2 in teh house each night to rotate them, so they do stay like
loyal pets this way. when the girls go into heat, i put the boys on tieout.
i finally hae a good setup where 2 at a time can wander about a radius of
150ft, where there is bush on teh end, circled around a big joshua tree.

the other two stay btween the dog yard and house wall right by the door. so
they are all close, and a big happy7 family still, and no fights this way.
I think i have it down to a science finally after about 8 yrs of keeping
them like this. Its been almost 2 yrs since a fight between the older boys,
they are about 6 and 7 now. The almost 3 year old brothers have
successfully been raised into this world to be friendly with the boys and
let their agression out on each other with some pretty agressive play.
still managed to keep the two brothers faces scar free so far, thank GOD
they are such good looking fellas!
pic of brothers
http://wolfdogg.org/chilly/index.php chilly
http://wolfdogg.org/wily/index.php wily
..
peace has been struck. kobuk is kept to be the dominant one, by the
reinforcement of me. odin is kept 2nd in line as the father of the
brothers,and the brothers are kept in chck if they get close to fighting.
they one do it when im around, they know not to engage each other when i am
gone, because its no fun for them, and or they know its improper heirarchal
behaviour and may get themselves into bad favour, or potentially hurt when i
am not there to save them. one or the other i can almost assure you.









..

In article ,
wolf " wrote:
hehe, you mean how i keep them in a group right? i didnt realize that
peopel are intrigued by that,

I'm not intrigued by it, I'm appalled. I know plenty of
people who keep their dogs on tie-outs in dog yards and take
outstanding care of their dogs, but I don't know anybody who
forgets to feed their dogs for several days or feeds working
dogs incredibly crap food when they remember. (Although if
you forgot about your dogs for several days you're not
exactly big on actual training and work, eh?) Or, for that
matter, running Arctic breed dogs in the desert and
advocating breeding wolf hybrids.

You're the ugly, incompetent side of dog mushing.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community.

your sick in the head melinda. i dont run my dogs lately, i havent ran them
for years in fact. I took them out periodically using a training cart on
cool days, like (15FDegrees) or colder, or sometimes (30F or 35F) or maybe
a bit warmer.they pull a no drag 20lb cart with me solo, around a dirt
course that about a mile or two long. that keeps them in training, but of
course not endurance, that comes after we relocate to north country soon.

i feed them a straight purina dog chow diet wtih fat supplement.

dont know what your talking about.

Never forgot my dogs for several days either, is that why you seem so pissed
all the time?

i do not feed my dogs any crap food, never will.

I think i see your opinion, you see a dog working kennel, and an trainer
that has forgotton about his dogs for a few days, i think that was
misconstrued in your head. in reality, its someone who keeps a family of
dogs, and sometimes let my dogs fast for 1, thats "ONE" day periodically for
organ health.

advocating breeding wolf hybrids.
This is misinformation on your part, shame shame.Melinda.

If you read my site i DO NOT CONDONE this type of breeding, i never have.
Thats why that part is left mostly off the website.

this is ugly
"
You're the ugly, incompetent side of dog mushing.
"



"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
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In article ,
wolf " wrote:
hehe, you mean how i keep them in a group right? i didnt realize that
peopel are intrigued by that,

I'm not intrigued by it, I'm appalled. I know plenty of
people who keep their dogs on tie-outs in dog yards and take
outstanding care of their dogs, but I don't know anybody who
forgets to feed their dogs for several days or feeds working
dogs incredibly crap food when they remember. (Although if
you forgot about your dogs for several days you're not
exactly big on actual training and work, eh?) Or, for that
matter, running Arctic breed dogs in the desert and
advocating breeding wolf hybrids.

You're the ugly, incompetent side of dog mushing.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community.

P.S. I have the humping under control, read my first post Trying to stay
on subject here. hehe.

oh yeah, theres more room for them to run when on the tie out, almost
500sqft area, with wilderness edging. not actually desert, on a mesa below
Mount Baldy and San Bernardino Mountain Range. other than that, a selected
few get to free run now and then(the ones that stay on the acreage, unless
it snows, then all get let out one at a time.

How can you try to slash that so bad? Cant understand you sometimes. just
wanted to support you since you dogsled and have huskies, lord knows i have
tried Melinda.





"wolf" " wrote in message
.net...
Not much. Given how you've described how you keep your
dogs, I'm pretty appalled that your dogs are intact.


hehe, you mean how i keep them in a group right? i didnt realize that
peopel are intrigued by that, maybe thats why no one wants to talk about
it, they think its suicide.

no fights... dogs are all happy as can be. i have a unique relationship
with them.

basically unconditional love goes both ways over here.

also, i let 1-2 in teh house each night to rotate them, so they do stay
like loyal pets this way. when the girls go into heat, i put the boys on
tieout. i finally hae a good setup where 2 at a time can wander about a
radius of 150ft, where there is bush on teh end, circled around a big
joshua tree.

the other two stay btween the dog yard and house wall right by the door.
so they are all close, and a big happy7 family still, and no fights this
way. I think i have it down to a science finally after about 8 yrs of
keeping them like this. Its been almost 2 yrs since a fight between the
older boys, they are about 6 and 7 now. The almost 3 year old brothers
have successfully been raised into this world to be friendly with the boys
and let their agression out on each other with some pretty agressive play.
still managed to keep the two brothers faces scar free so far, thank GOD
they are such good looking fellas!
pic of brothers
http://wolfdogg.org/chilly/index.php chilly
http://wolfdogg.org/wily/index.php wily
.
peace has been struck. kobuk is kept to be the dominant one, by the
reinforcement of me. odin is kept 2nd in line as the father of the
brothers,and the brothers are kept in chck if they get close to fighting.
they one do it when im around, they know not to engage each other when i
am gone, because its no fun for them, and or they know its improper
heirarchal behaviour and may get themselves into bad favour, or
potentially hurt when i am not there to save them. one or the other i can
almost assure you.









.

In article . net,
wolf " wrote:
your sick in the head melinda. i dont run my dogs lately, i havent ran them
for years in fact.

OH, DANDY. That's just great. Really. You're not
exercising your dog team - sure, you're just the very
*model* of responsible mushing.

Never forgot my dogs for several days either,

et

i do not feed my dogs any crap food, never will.

But previously you said:

i feed them a straight purina dog chow diet wtih fat supplement.

That's crap food.

and sometimes let my dogs fast for 1, thats "ONE" day periodically for
organ health.

That's new information. It's also one of the stupidest
things I've ever read. "Organ health?" Hah.

advocating breeding wolf hybrids.
This is misinformation on your part, shame shame.Melinda.

k.net,
and you talked about selling your own wolf hybrids. To
strangers, no less.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community.

In article t,
wolf " wrote:
P.S. I have the humping under control,

Yeah, because your dogs are chained. Sometimes dogs hump
because of dominance play. Sometimes they hump as part of
plain old play. Sometimes they hump because they're
sexually excited. Sometimes the humpee doesn't mind.
Sometimes the humpee does mind. Sometimes the humpee is
okay with being humped by one dog but not another, and
sometimes the humpee is okay with it for a little bit but
starts to get irritated if it goes on too long. You may not
know this because of your limited dog contact, but when you
don't know something you shouldn't give advice about it.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community.

"wolf" " said in
rec.pets.dogs.breeds:

When the females ride the females, I don't usually stop
them, I just laugh at them.

Iditarod is back?

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.