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Old March 17th 04, 04:17 PM
-mi-chael3
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Hello fans,

as you know, I know everything about dog behavior, but
I don't have time to research all the various flea and
tick products.

Last year, Chazz got Lyme disease, which seems to have
cleared up with a course of antibiotics. But we run
every day along a trail with lots of ticks and it's
tick season and I'm declaring war on ticks. I hate the
little *******s. Don't want them on my dogs, and
don't want them in my house. I also don't like
applying toxic materials to my dogs.

I'm more concerned with ticks than fleas, but
what's the best product that's the easiest to
use with least toxicity for a dog.

I'd rather use a collar that I can take off
and put on as necessary, specifically during our
runs, but something more powerful than your basic
dimestore tick collar. I'd also use one of the
application techniques, where you rub it into
their back, although I don't like that idea...

Anyway, what do you people prefer to eradicate
ticks.

talk amongst yourselves...




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Old March 17th 04, 04:32 PM
Suja
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-mi-chael3 wrote:

Anyway, what do you people prefer to eradicate
ticks.


If what you're looking for is something that is guaranteed to work, get
a Preventic collar. The active ingredients are Pyriproxyfen and
Amitraz, in case you want to do a little research into it. This stuff
is toxic if ingested, so don't leave the collar on your dogs when they
are roughhousing/playing with each other. I believe that it is most
effective if left continuously on the dog, but may provide adequate
protection if used in the manner you described previously. Our vet
recommended that it be used in conjunction with Frontline (in the manner
you've described) after Khan contracted Lyme disease. I've opted to not
go that route yet, instead choosing to hand-inspect the dogs after we're
done with the outings for the day.

I can't remember if you have cats, but it is toxic to them, so you might
want to check with a vet to make sure it is safe for use on your dogs if
you have cats in the house.

Suja

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Old March 17th 04, 04:32 PM
Gwen Watson
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-mi-chael3 wrote:


Anyway, what do you people prefer to eradicate
ticks.

talk amongst yourselves...




Michael I use "Frontline" and I prefer it since I have
several dogs and one being a puppy.

The other product that works great for ticks
is "Tick Arrest" and you can get those at
any "Pets Mart" or "Preventic" which is the same
product can be bought at any Vets office. Both
cost about the same. Unless you order "online" somewhere.
Which depends on how fast you want this product. I believe
someone here mentioned obtaining these collars for just
over $2.00+ each but I am not certain of that.

The collars are highly toxic to another dog if it were
to bite the collar. Which is why I don't care for
these.

But you are right in declaring war on ticks. They do
kill dogs yearly.

Gwen

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Old March 17th 04, 04:34 PM
Gwen Watson
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Suja wrote:


I can't remember if you have cats, but it is toxic to them, so you
might want to check with a vet to make sure it is safe for use on your
dogs if you have cats in the house.

Suja



My Vet claimed it was safe unless my kitties washed my dogs, which they
don't. But that is an excellent point.

Yeppers "Preventic" collars are grand but I can't use them right now
with Reznor around.

Gwen

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Old March 17th 04, 04:45 PM
Cate
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Gwen Watson wrote in news:c39r6u$p9e$1
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The collars are highly toxic to another dog if it were
to bite the collar. Which is why I don't care for
these.


I'm not a fan of tick collars, so I use Advantix. Works like a charm, as
anyone who remembers my tick bloom story from last summer might remember.
I've never seen any tick product work that well that fast. One application
killed dozens if not hundreds of baby ticks on Orson, and at least another
hundred in the house. We've not had a problem since then.

Advantix can't be used on cats, and some vets warn against its use where
dogs and cats live together.

Cate
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Old March 17th 04, 04:45 PM
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I use Revolution (or Frontline Plus) with a Preventix Collar. It is
pricey - $15-17 around here, but worth it. It actually paralyzes the mouth
parts of the ticks and prevents feeding and attaching. Lasts for 3 months.
I have not tried Advantix. Would like to hear how people like that one.

I had never used a collar before a couple of years ago when I moved from a
dry area in Texas to an area of thick vegetation in rural Oklahoma. OH MY
GOSH! AWFUL! Between the cows and the deer, there is a never ending supply
of ticks. I am sold! But, very toxic to cats.

I do have a big dog, and the collar only really only works for the head and
neck. But, as that is the most sensitive area for her, the collar helps
alot in keeping the little suckers out of her ears and face wrinkles. Toe
checks are still needed.

The idea with the collars is that the chemical has to works it's way though
the coat via the natural oils. That takes about 3 days. So, you really
can't just put it on for the daily "power walk" and then take it off. It
really has to stay on most of the time.

One thing you can try for inside the house is a dry ice trap. The carbon
dioxide will lure the ticks out in droves.

"-mi-chael3" wrote in message
.. .
Hello fans,

as you know, I know everything about dog behavior, but
I don't have time to research all the various flea and
tick products.

Last year, Chazz got Lyme disease, which seems to have
cleared up with a course of antibiotics. But we run
every day along a trail with lots of ticks and it's
tick season and I'm declaring war on ticks. I hate the
little *******s. Don't want them on my dogs, and
don't want them in my house. I also don't like
applying toxic materials to my dogs.

I'm more concerned with ticks than fleas, but
what's the best product that's the easiest to
use with least toxicity for a dog.

I'd rather use a collar that I can take off
and put on as necessary, specifically during our
runs, but something more powerful than your basic
dimestore tick collar. I'd also use one of the
application techniques, where you rub it into
their back, although I don't like that idea...

Anyway, what do you people prefer to eradicate
ticks.

talk amongst yourselves...




--
this is michael
reporting live...
http://dogtv.com

BRILLIANT
http://dogtv.com/sionnach.wmv



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Old March 17th 04, 04:50 PM
Gwen Watson
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Cate wrote:


Advantix can't be used on cats, and some vets warn against its use where
dogs and cats live together.

Cate


Yes which is why I won't use it. I have one kitty getting up in age.
Actually
2. Reba is 11 now. Clint will be 10. While that isn't really old for a kitty
Reba has always seemed to have a low immune system. So I won't risk
it. But yes Advantix is another good product for ticks.

Gwen

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Old March 17th 04, 05:05 PM
-mi-chael3
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thanks for that heelpful information.

I think the reason you find ticks on the head and neck, is because that
is one area where the dogs can't chew them off. So it make sense to
focus on those areas with prevention.

ZPL wrote:
I use Revolution (or Frontline Plus) with a Preventix Collar. It is
pricey - $15-17 around here, but worth it. It actually paralyzes the mouth
parts of the ticks and prevents feeding and attaching. Lasts for 3 months.
I have not tried Advantix. Would like to hear how people like that one.

I had never used a collar before a couple of years ago when I moved from a
dry area in Texas to an area of thick vegetation in rural Oklahoma. OH MY
GOSH! AWFUL! Between the cows and the deer, there is a never ending supply
of ticks. I am sold! But, very toxic to cats.

I do have a big dog, and the collar only really only works for the head and
neck. But, as that is the most sensitive area for her, the collar helps
alot in keeping the little suckers out of her ears and face wrinkles. Toe
checks are still needed.

The idea with the collars is that the chemical has to works it's way though
the coat via the natural oils. That takes about 3 days. So, you really
can't just put it on for the daily "power walk" and then take it off. It
really has to stay on most of the time.

One thing you can try for inside the house is a dry ice trap. The carbon
dioxide will lure the ticks out in droves.

"-mi-chael3" wrote in message
.. .

Hello fans,

as you know, I know everything about dog behavior, but
I don't have time to research all the various flea and
tick products.

Last year, Chazz got Lyme disease, which seems to have
cleared up with a course of antibiotics. But we run
every day along a trail with lots of ticks and it's
tick season and I'm declaring war on ticks. I hate the
little *******s. Don't want them on my dogs, and
don't want them in my house. I also don't like
applying toxic materials to my dogs.

I'm more concerned with ticks than fleas, but
what's the best product that's the easiest to
use with least toxicity for a dog.

I'd rather use a collar that I can take off
and put on as necessary, specifically during our
runs, but something more powerful than your basic
dimestore tick collar. I'd also use one of the
application techniques, where you rub it into
their back, although I don't like that idea...

Anyway, what do you people prefer to eradicate
ticks.

talk amongst yourselves...




--
this is michael
reporting live...
http://dogtv.com

BRILLIANT
http://dogtv.com/sionnach.wmv





--
this is michael
reporting live...
http://dogtv.com

BRILLIANT
http://dogtv.com/sionnach.wmv

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Old March 17th 04, 05:05 PM
Cate
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Gwen Watson wrote in news:c39s90$pp0$2
@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu:

Cate wrote:


Advantix can't be used on cats, and some vets warn against its use where
dogs and cats live together.

Cate


Yes which is why I won't use it.


I remember from this discussion last summer that many people here with cats
won't use it. However, my cat and dog never interact, so I do.

Cate
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Old March 17th 04, 05:07 PM
Gwen Watson
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Cate wrote:


I remember from this discussion last summer that many people here with cats
won't use it. However, my cat and dog never interact, so I do.

Cate


Indeed. And if your dog and cat never interact I don't blame you for
using it.

Gwen

 




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