Shelly wrote in
:

I think actually getting your hands on the camera before buying
it is going to be pretty important in ensuring you get the *right*
camera.


So true. I'm a big online shopper, and I always do all this research
before going into the stores, list in hand -- only to inevitably emerge
with something not on the list at all. Camera feel is really important,
the size of the camera, and whether your brain will work with your
fingers in the way the camera buttons are arranged.

I too have a Kodak -- mine is kind of the next closest thing to an SLR --
it has a 12x zoom and has all the manual features but it will also do
everything automatically, very, very well. It has lots of "scene"
features too. I am still pretty clunky with the manual features but I am
working on it because I too would like to eventually move to an SLR --
but it's nice to not miss shots while I'm being slow with the manual
settings.

Forget slipping the thing into your bag and join me in the search for the
perfect bag. So far this is what I've come up with:

http://www.helixcamera.com/CameraBag...chel/f802.html

I carry it everywhere. It's my third bag in 6 months and seems to be
working pretty well. It holds everything and has organizer pockets in
front, which are critical for the likes of myself. Still, it's huge and
rather informal and people look at me funny when I carry it to the
theater, not that I care.

--
Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico

"Shelly" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:18:48 -0400, "MauiJNP" wrote:

sounds good. I am looking for a smaller digital camera that is easier to
throw in my purse or my pocket.

The model I have is too big for most pockets, and the lens cap would be
a pain in the ass. They seem to have fixed that problem in newer
models, as well as making them smaller. Some of the new designs are
actually quite tiny, so one of them might work for your needs. And,
look, they actually have a "Pocket Series." Who knew?

http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=9/19/31&pq-locale=en_US


those are nice, I have to see them in person.


If I had to replace mine right now, I'd still go for one of the newer
EasyShare cameras. The two things I'd make sure to change would be the
lens cap and a higher optical zoom. Other than that, I think it's a
great intermediate digital camera. (Ultimately, I've got my eye on a
digital SLR, but that's way out of my price range right now.)


yeah, that's my ultimate goal too but years away. I have a collection of
cameras right now and photography/videography is definately a hobby of mine.


Some folks have complained about the way the shutter works on the model
I have. I don't know if they've changed it on newer models, but I hope
not. Once you learn how to use it, you can use the focusing/metering
song-and-dance to your advantage, and you can get photos you would not
be able to get with comparable digital cameras.

The one I have now is 4 years old but still
working really nice. Here it is........

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2002_...umix_lc40.html

That's a *very* cute camera, with a nice lens. I expect it *does* take
quite nice photos.


yes, I love the way the flash pops out. And I am happy with the lens, its
very nice and takes great photos. Plus its durable which I learned from
dropping it down the steps.



It is too big for a purse or pocket though and I picked it for the lens,
which is great. I still plan to keep it for taking pictures at home, like
everyday stuff and holidays but would love to have a travel friendly one
too.

I think your best bet would be to go to a camera shop, tell them what
you already have and what you are looking for. They'll have a good
selection of cameras in stock and you can feel them in your hands, look
at the features, and discuss the pros and cons of each with the camera
folks. I think actually getting your hands on the camera before buying
it is going to be pretty important in ensuring you get the *right*
camera.



yeah, that's how I picked the one I have now. I went to the store with a
list and came home with a completely different one that is working great for
what I need to do with it

Shelly said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

I think your best bet would be to go to a camera shop, tell
them what you already have and what you are looking for.

Yup, better that the Big Box stores. I bought my camera from a
smaller chain (Black's, if it matters) who asked what I wanted
to use it for (dogs at a distance, small so I could carry it in
a cargo pants pocket, and video would be nice). They listened
to what I said. I sacrificed on optical zoom and store-bought
batteries, but I knew that going in.

With most things tech (and that includes fridges and stuff), you
gotta stick to your original plan. Dang, I just bought a laptop
computer for $599 CDN and was able to leave the store with what
I needed, not wanted - though it'd be -oh so cool- to have what
I wanted.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:49:29 +0000 (UTC), ceb
wrote:

Camera feel is really important,
the size of the camera, and whether your brain will work with your
fingers in the way the camera buttons are arranged.

Yep. And since Maui is wanting to go smaller, it's even more important
for her to get her hands on the camera. Some of those little cameras
are cute, but they're almost impossible to use.

I am still pretty clunky with the manual features but I am
working on it because I too would like to eventually move to an SLR --
but it's nice to not miss shots while I'm being slow with the manual
settings.

That is, I think, the best thing about digital cameras. Since the
feedback is pretty much instantaneous, it's easy to figure out what you
need to tweak to get the shot you want. And, because it's "free," you
can take a zillion photos. You're more apt to go ahead and try to get a
shot. If it doesn't work, you can try again. If it does work, you've
may have gotten a killer photo. Either way, as long as you've given it
a try, your photography skills will be improved. It's just simple math:
the more photos you take, the more your photography skills will improve.

Forget slipping the thing into your bag and join me in the search for the
perfect bag.

That's what I finally did, and I'm thoroughly pleased with the
arrangement.

So far this is what I've come up with:

http://www.helixcamera.com/CameraBag...chel/f802.html

I carry it everywhere. It's my third bag in 6 months and seems to be
working pretty well. It holds everything and has organizer pockets in
front, which are critical for the likes of myself. Still, it's huge and
rather informal and people look at me funny when I carry it to the
theater, not that I care.

I like it! But, I work on a college campus, so messenger bags and back
packs blend right in.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

Never put a sock in a toaster.
-- Eddie Izzard

On 31 Jul 2006 02:49:22 GMT, Rocky wrote:

Dang, I just bought a laptop
computer for $599 CDN and was able to leave the store with what
I needed, not wanted - though it'd be -oh so cool- to have what
I wanted.

I'm jealous! I want a laptop, but that's a ways off yet. My desktop
machine could stand some upgrading, but--aside from a hard drive crash a
couple of weeks ago--it's still working well.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

In order to change a color it is enough to change the color of its
background.
-- Michel Eugene Chevreul

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:33:05 -0400, Shelly
wrote:

[]
So far this is what I've come up with:

http://www.helixcamera.com/CameraBag...chel/f802.html

I carry it everywhere. It's my third bag in 6 months and seems to be
working pretty well. It holds everything and has organizer pockets in
front, which are critical for the likes of myself. Still, it's huge and
rather informal and people look at me funny when I carry it to the
theater, not that I care.

I like it! But, I work on a college campus, so messenger bags and back
packs blend right in.

And if you want to save a few bucks, there's always this one:
http://www.fatiguesarmynavy.com/store/item/FA1955

Or a little smaller one:
http://www.kitbag.com.au/category485_1.htm

Plus, you can carry your ammo in it, too!

And we all know how important that feature is.

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

"In other words, if you're a Muslim who wants to shoot Jewish-Americans in response to
Israel's policies, you're not a 'Muslim-American.' I don't care what your citizenship is.
I don't care if you were born in Fargo. You haven't got the idea. You are not one of us."
http://grimbeorn.blogspot.com/2006_0...4777986818 65

It's time to get out of the U.N. ASAP.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1224

"Thank God, my son is dead."
http://counterterror.typepad.com/the...iew_with_.html

Islamic "septicemia":
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2006/07...epticemia.html

Sicko leftist "artist" c*%t abuses children for profit and political gain:
http://thinkingpictures.blogspot.com...end-times.html

Two books that every American (and Canadian) *must* read:

1) The Rage and The Pride, by Orianna Fallaci
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J13521A6D

2) The Force of Reason, by Orianna Fallaci
http://makeashorterlink.com/?T42552A6D

While they still can.

Camera feel is really important,
the size of the camera, and whether your brain will work with your
fingers in the way the camera buttons are arranged.

Yep. And since Maui is wanting to go smaller, it's even more important
for her to get her hands on the camera. Some of those little cameras
are cute, but they're almost impossible to use.


yeah, I think the same thing about some of the new cell phones they keep
making smaller (how do people use those?)


I am still pretty clunky with the manual features but I am
working on it because I too would like to eventually move to an SLR --
but it's nice to not miss shots while I'm being slow with the manual
settings.

That is, I think, the best thing about digital cameras. Since the
feedback is pretty much instantaneous, it's easy to figure out what you
need to tweak to get the shot you want. And, because it's "free," you
can take a zillion photos.

this is my favorite thing about digital, I take tons of pictures, instead of
1 (or 2 to be sure I got the shot) I take 10.


You're more apt to go ahead and try to get a
shot. If it doesn't work, you can try again. If it does work, you've
may have gotten a killer photo.

yeah, I like the surprises I find every once in a while

"Shelly" wrote in message

Yep. And since Maui is wanting to go smaller, it's even more important
for her to get her hands on the camera. Some of those little cameras
are cute, but they're almost impossible to use.

Back when I was camera shopping, that was the impression I got. I was doing
the research for myself and my dad. We had different criteria for what we
wanted. I wanted a good zoom and image stabilization in a not too expensive
package. Dad needed something idiot proof that was more compact, with
larger buttons and a big screen. Did the research online, went and checked
out a bunch of cameras, and ended up with two from that list. I remember a
lot of the cameras that I was looking at being tiny and hard to navigate,
and I have small hands. In dad's hands, they were just terrible; he'd press
stuff inadvertently, and then would panic about what he had done.

Suja

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:27:58 -0400, "Suja"
wrote:


"Shelly" wrote in message

Yep. And since Maui is wanting to go smaller, it's even more important
for her to get her hands on the camera. Some of those little cameras
are cute, but they're almost impossible to use.

Back when I was camera shopping, that was the impression I got. I was doing
the research for myself and my dad. We had different criteria for what we
wanted. I wanted a good zoom and image stabilization in a not too expensive
package. Dad needed something idiot proof that was more compact, with
larger buttons and a big screen. Did the research online, went and checked
out a bunch of cameras, and ended up with two from that list. I remember a
lot of the cameras that I was looking at being tiny and hard to navigate,
and I have small hands. In dad's hands, they were just terrible; he'd press
stuff inadvertently, and then would panic about what he had done.

My dad has this problem with cell phones especially but other things
as well. I, too, play around with the sample phone before I buy one,
but he seems to have even more problems. This is a problem for both
of us because he hates to shop so he tends to ask me to "pick one up
for me." My compromise has been to pre-shop and narrow it down to a
few that I think have a good combination of the features he wants and
the usability factors I have learned about him over time and then take
him to make sure the ultimate choice is what he wants and what he can
work with over time.

--
Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy,
so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay

Camera feel is really important,
the size of the camera, and whether your brain will work with your
fingers in the way the camera buttons are arranged.

Yep. And since Maui is wanting to go smaller, it's even more important
for her to get her hands on the camera. Some of those little cameras
are cute, but they're almost impossible to use.



I hope this one is not too small to use. I definately need to check it
out more. It is pretty small but sounds great otherwise, I especially like
the Leica lense (which is what I have now). The only downside is it doesn't
have a viewfinder just an LCD screen (I tend to use the viewfinder more).
Though, with a small camera, it doesn't appear that anyone makes one with a
viewfinder. When it comes out, I need to get my hands on it.........


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