"lgohring" wrote in message
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What the makes you think I would not pay a fee to be a memeber of a
group I wanted to join?

Jack you maybe a long term member here, but you are some what full of
yourself.

Maybe I have what this group is all about wrong? I thought it was a
place to throw ideas and advice around.

It seems more like a place where the older members know it all and just
toss out what ever remarks they feel like it to the newer people.


As others have said, welcome to Usenet. It is all of the good, the bad, and
the ugly. I don't know quite why it is that many people who have become
regulars in a newsgroup feel compelled to throw little barbs of criticism,
especially when one does not immediately do what they suggest. Perhaps they
expect good-dog-like obedience, and any other response gets no tasty treat,
but instead a sharp corrective measure.

I must admit that I started out knowing nothing about dog training when I
decided to spare Muttley's life at some major inconvenience to my own.
However, I do not regret it now that I see his behavior slowly but surely
improving, (although my cat Photon may disagree). I was given much good
advice here as a result of my posts, and I have found some obedience
classes that may be more convenient for me than what was offered. I can
understand your problem with your location in the boonies of the DelMarVa
Peninsula, and wish you luck in finding someone who is knowledgeable about
dog behavior and training. I have met people who have been able to work
wonders with Muttley almost immediately, and I am lucky that he is smart
and basically mellow. He was also rescued from who knows what kind of
upbringing, and fortunately he does not seem to have major problems, other
than the cat aggression which will be the reason I cannot keep him. Good
luck with Molly. You can probably find good books and on-line information
to resolve your problems, but it is best to find someone who has
experience.

I can understand your anger when people resort to insults and obtuse
remarks, rather than more civil attempts at discussion. In Usenet it is
easy to say things you probably would not dare in a face to face encounter,
and it is also easy to say the wrong thing or take something the wrong way,
and once it's posted, there is no way to retract it.

Paul

wrote:

If you bothered to actually READ my post. You would know I do NOT live
any where near a trainer.

I live in an extreamly small area. Our shelter is run by strictly
volunteers. I have asked my vet about finding one. The closest one is
across a toll brige and over 110 miles away.

There is a good chance the trainer will come to you. Seeing your
dog's behavior in the home environment would be a big help in
understanding what is going on. And if it is too far for this
particular trainer to travel, he/she may know someone closer that
your vet does not.

Amy Dahl

diddy wrote:
in thread : Amy Dahl
whittled the following words:

wrote:

If you bothered to actually READ my post. You would know I do NOT live
any where near a trainer.

I live in an extreamly small area. Our shelter is run by strictly
volunteers. I have asked my vet about finding one. The closest one is
across a toll brige and over 110 miles away.

There is a good chance the trainer will come to you. Seeing your
dog's behavior in the home environment would be a big help in
understanding what is going on. And if it is too far for this
particular trainer to travel, he/she may know someone closer that
your vet does not.

Amy Dahl


Trainers tend to know more about where trainers are, than veterinarians.



If this person is on the DelMarVa pen. there is at least one good
trainer that I know of on the Eastern Shore. She is a no nonesense
sort and I don't know how much she does with private students.

Beth

I did not reject any ones advice.
I got offended over the dodged bullet remark.
There is a difference.

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:08:36 -0500, diddy
wrote:

in thread : Amy Dahl
whittled the following words:

wrote:

If you bothered to actually READ my post. You would know I do NOT live
any where near a trainer.

I live in an extreamly small area. Our shelter is run by strictly
volunteers. I have asked my vet about finding one. The closest one is
across a toll brige and over 110 miles away.

There is a good chance the trainer will come to you. Seeing your
dog's behavior in the home environment would be a big help in
understanding what is going on. And if it is too far for this
particular trainer to travel, he/she may know someone closer that
your vet does not.

Amy Dahl


Trainers tend to know more about where trainers are, than veterinarians.

That's for sure. Or dog clubs, and those are just about everywhere
too, including rural areas.

Mustang Sally

wrote in message
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I did not reject any ones advice.

Well, your behavior did....but that is truly your perogetive to do so.

I got offended over the dodged bullet remark.

I have Jack killfiled, so I checked google to see what all the commotion was
about. Honestly, I have to say that this is the rare occasion where I think
he was both accurate and not necessarily insulting. He didn't insult you. He
merely stated that you just dodged a bullet on that one. And that was true.

There is a difference.

Yes I know. But there's also a difference between an insult (which he *does*
do far too often) and a cold-light-of-day assessment of the situation (which
is what he actually did here)

Tara

Okay I conceed ( is that how you spell that?)
I do not wish to argue with anyone. I'm sorry for the uproar.
Maybe I'm over senitive. It's hard to explain in a post what excatally
the dog is doing.
I know I'm not coming across clearly.

In article . com,
wrote:
It's hard to explain in a post what excatally
the dog is doing.

Yes, exactly. Dogs express themselves differently from
humans and if you don't have much experience with it it's
really difficult to see what the dog is communicating, and
then there's the problem of translating that into a useful
English language description that could help someone
thousands of miles away sort through what's going on. The
difficulty of doing that is exactly why in-person help is so
important.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Bad policies lead to bad results.

"lgohring" wrote:
Jack you maybe a long term member here, but you are some what full of
yourself.

He is that. He's also often right. Not as often as he thinks he is, but
often enough.

You got lucky. Nothing wrong with that, but relying on luck is a sucker's
bet.

"TaraG" wrote:
...Its extremely easy....and extremely
likely....for a frightened but curious dog to have moments of bravery
where they investigate something that was a source of fear. This can
actually be a *dangerous* time because its likely the dog will get
herself in over her head, but then react on whoever happens to be
nearby.

I hear that. A friend of mine, years ago, had a GSD-mix named Prince.
Prince, unfortunately, had this little fear-biting problem. My friend
warned me ahead of time that I wasn't to talk to, try to pet, or otherwise
interact with Prince. I was okay with that. Prince was okay with that.

About an hour into our visit, Prince walked past me and I absent-mindedly
put my hand on him. Total brain-fart on my part, I'd been warned. He
accepted the pet for a moment. Then, as his owner said, "It's like he
suddenly realized, 'Wait, I don't KNOW you!'" He froze. I froze. We held
that pose, then I slowly lifted my hand and Prince slowly walked away. I
was grateful to be without punctures.

Honestly speaking, that wasn't a good move on your part.

Ditto that.