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Old October 27th 06, 01:40 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
bethgsd
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I thought about putting "I have a Paul in my class" in the subject line, but
I refrained.
I have a student that lied on the registration form. Our form asks if the
dog has bitten humans or dogs. It has done both. Monday night it tried to
bite my assistant. And made a good attempt to attack a Norwich terrier.
Argh. I've sent the woman an email detailing the things that she will need
to do if she wants to come back to class. The excuses this woman has, oy!
is amazing.
At least the BOD of the club is backing me on if the woman doesn't follow
the rules she will be told to hit the road. And I found out from the person
that she used to train with that she didn't follow their rules either.
Banging my head in frustration.
Beth


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Old October 27th 06, 03:02 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Robin Nuttall
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bethgsd wrote:

At least the BOD of the club is backing me on if the woman doesn't follow
the rules she will be told to hit the road. And I found out from the person
that she used to train with that she didn't follow their rules either.
Banging my head in frustration.


Oh I could tell you the stories. People who deliberately lie, and people
who just absotively refuse to "see" the problem.

We had a woman who had skated all round town with her longhair GSD. She
bounced to our place. Immediately wanted to do an advanced agility
class. We tested her and said no. We put her in an obedience class. Good
thing, since her dog is *extremely* aggressive.

Well she just kept bugging us and bugging us about putting her in an
agility class. We just kept telling her that she couldn't be in an
agility class until her dog demonstrated the ability to control itself
off leash. So she just started helping herself to the equipment. While
other classes were going on. A big rule no-no. Nobody gets on agility
equipment that's not enrolled in an agility class.

Meanwhile, every time this dog sees another dog going at any rate of
speed (i.e., any of the agility dogs), it would stand on its back legs,
lunge forward, and ROAR. Oh yeah, like that's coming to our class. Um,
thank you no.

She finally went elsewhere. We were glad. Unfortunately she really
didn't get help for her dog because she refused to see that it had a
real problem. So even obedience was not really useful, and she refused
the help of a behaviorist.



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Old October 28th 06, 12:59 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Robin Nuttall" wrote in message
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bethgsd wrote:

At least the BOD of the club is backing me on if the woman doesn't follow
the rules she will be told to hit the road. And I found out from the
person that she used to train with that she didn't follow their rules
either.
Banging my head in frustration.


Oh I could tell you the stories. People who deliberately lie, and people
who just absotively refuse to "see" the problem.


Ugh. I'm havin' deja vue all over again.

Beth


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Old October 28th 06, 07:00 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Robin Nuttall wrote:

Oh I could tell you the stories. People who deliberately lie, and people
who just absotively refuse to "see" the problem.


I really don't understand this attitude. I'm terrified of Rupert
harming someone elses dog. I informed our obedience instructor before
we even turned up at class that he can be aggressive.

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Old October 28th 06, 07:18 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Robin Nuttall
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swilliamson1983 wrote:
Robin Nuttall wrote:


Oh I could tell you the stories. People who deliberately lie, and people
who just absotively refuse to "see" the problem.



I really don't understand this attitude. I'm terrified of Rupert
harming someone elses dog. I informed our obedience instructor before
we even turned up at class that he can be aggressive.


Because too many people think that if their dog isn't perfect it
reflects badly on them. Besides, they love the dog and how could they
possibly love a dog that isn't perfect?

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Old October 28th 06, 10:21 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Paula
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:18:57 GMT, Robin Nuttall
wrote:

swilliamson1983 wrote:
Robin Nuttall wrote:


Oh I could tell you the stories. People who deliberately lie, and people
who just absotively refuse to "see" the problem.



I really don't understand this attitude. I'm terrified of Rupert
harming someone elses dog. I informed our obedience instructor before
we even turned up at class that he can be aggressive.


Because too many people think that if their dog isn't perfect it
reflects badly on them. Besides, they love the dog and how could they
possibly love a dog that isn't perfect?


I hate that attitude in people and dogs. Since when is it okay to
imply that imperfect is unacceptable and unloveable? My kids have
problems, my dogs have problems, I have problems... I have never met
a perfect anything or anyone. I have also never met (personally,
though I have my suspicions as to some I have heard of but not met)
anything or anyone who was unworthy of love. So, yeah, I really think
it sucks that people will put other dogs at risk by not wanting to
face or announce that their dog is aggressive. And I also think it
really sucks that those same people are implying with their actions
that their beloved pet would somehow be less loved and less worthy if
they were taken as they were instead of idealized.

--
Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy,
so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
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Old October 29th 06, 01:30 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Paula
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:47:39 -0400, "Suja"
wrote:

"Paula" wrote in message:

I have never met
a perfect anything or anyone.


You have now. Just ask my mom, I'm a perfect Angel.

I believe that Marcel's one of those too.


Perfect liar is not the same as perfect person! HTH!

--
Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy,
so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
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Old October 29th 06, 01:45 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Paula
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:00:17 -0400, "Suja"
wrote:

"Paula" wrote in message:

Perfect liar is not the same as perfect person! HTH!


I've always wondered about that Marcel.


Marcel has a little girl who shows all signs of being able to pick up
on the advantages of wrapping a daddy around your little finger.
Expect him to get far worse before he gets any better!

--
Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy,
so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
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Old October 29th 06, 01:47 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Suja
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"Paula" wrote in message:

I have never met
a perfect anything or anyone.


You have now. Just ask my mom, I'm a perfect Angel.

I believe that Marcel's one of those too.

Suja


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Old October 29th 06, 01:00 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Suja
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"Paula" wrote in message:

Perfect liar is not the same as perfect person! HTH!


I've always wondered about that Marcel.

Suja


 




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