on Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:07:42 GMT, shelly wrote:

If you don't like the advice I gave, that's your prerogative. I'm
not interested in getting into a pissing match with you over it, though.

Nor am I! I was just explaining my reasoning (same as you).

--
Lynne

http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/

Lynne wrote in
. 97.142:

BTW, the vomiting
could be coincidental or the result of swallowing too much drool.

Actually, drooling can very well be a sign of nausea. Drooling to that
extreme can signal severe nausea. The fact that the dog subsequently
vomited tells me this is likely connected.

I'd take the dog in.

Any change in behvior like this so soon after a surgical procedure
(especially one that the OP isn't sure was done responsibly) warrants a
follow up visit soon. If those behaviors worsen (i.e. nausea turns into
actual vomitting) then I'd do it ASAP.

Tara

wrote in news:1169040531.536609.47390
@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Hi Lynne,
Our vet (dentist) didn't say anything about this.

We weren't sure whether to bring her to our regular vet or not?

Since your dental vet is being seriously unhelpful (I can't imagine calling
with unusual side effects of surgery, having the vet TELL me they are not
com common reactions, and then get NO further information from them on how
to deal with it. That is just wrong), I'd pick my regular vet.

I see from your latest posts that that's exactly what you're doing. I'm
glad.

Please let us know how things go.

Tara

Hi Tara,

Yes, we will be taking our puppy to our regular vet over lunch hour
today. My fear though is that they won't be able to give us any
definitive answers about what is wrong with her.

I am thoroughly disappointed with the dental vet we visited. I am also
shocked that he won't tell us what is causing her drooling issues. He
seems fully consumed in the surgery aspect of it - and the "science"
behind bad dog teeth, but has a poor bedside manner.

I will keep you all posted.

Thank you,
Kelly

Tara wrote:
wrote in news:1169040531.536609.47390
@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Hi Lynne,
Our vet (dentist) didn't say anything about this.

We weren't sure whether to bring her to our regular vet or not?

Since your dental vet is being seriously unhelpful (I can't imagine calling
with unusual side effects of surgery, having the vet TELL me they are not
com common reactions, and then get NO further information from them on how
to deal with it. That is just wrong), I'd pick my regular vet.

I see from your latest posts that that's exactly what you're doing. I'm
glad.

Please let us know how things go.

Tara

Is it possible that it might be helpful to back-track a
bit?

What medication(s) have your dog been taking?

Last time I had oral surgery (~'92), the surgeon sent
me home with a huge jug of antibiotics.

If s/he is on antibiotics:

a.) Certain med conditions might be very unlikely.
b.) Depending on the antobiotics, they may be contributing
to the symptoms (drooling, nausea, etc).

All meds are potentially relevant, and I'm guessing s/he
is taking *something*. No?

Puddin'

On 17 Jan 2007 05:28:51 -0800, wrote:

Hi Lynne,
Our vet (dentist) didn't say anything about this.

We weren't sure whether to bring her to our regular vet or not?

Lynne wrote:
on Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:08:07 GMT, wrote:

Why is she drooling so much? Can surgery to remove teeth cause this?
Or, could this be some kind of poisoning?

What does your vet say?

--
Lynne

"Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather
than the victim."
- Bertrand Russell

Hello

Our dog was taking both Tramadol and Metacam (strictly for pain) for
the first 2 days after surgery. However, she was experiencing
vommitting (yellow stuff) in her mouth frequently and then she would
swallow it. One time she actually threw up on the floor. Again, it
looked yellow. The dental vet said at that point that her pain was
likely over, and we should take her off Tramadol and Metacam - so we
complied.

Our puppy has not taken any medications for the past 3 days.

She hasn't been given any antibiotics, as the dental surgeon said he
didn't think it was prudent to "over-prescribe" antibiotics.

I have wondered if our puppy has an infection in her mouth. I keep
smelling it, but I don't smell anything foul. I would expect to smell
foul breath if she had gotten an infection.

The one thing I find very strange, is that for the first few (3) days
after her surgery, she had no drooling like this. Now, seemingly out
of nowhere, on the 4th day after surgery she has begun this excessive
drool.

Why wouldn't it have started right after surgery, if it was in fact
related to the surgery?

Thank you.
Kelly

Puddin' Man wrote:
Is it possible that it might be helpful to back-track a
bit?

What medication(s) have your dog been taking?

Last time I had oral surgery (~'92), the surgeon sent
me home with a huge jug of antibiotics.

If s/he is on antibiotics:

a.) Certain med conditions might be very unlikely.
b.) Depending on the antobiotics, they may be contributing
to the symptoms (drooling, nausea, etc).

All meds are potentially relevant, and I'm guessing s/he
is taking *something*. No?

Puddin'

On 17 Jan 2007 05:28:51 -0800, wrote:

Hi Lynne,
Our vet (dentist) didn't say anything about this.

We weren't sure whether to bring her to our regular vet or not?

Lynne wrote:
on Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:08:07 GMT, wrote:

Why is she drooling so much? Can surgery to remove teeth cause this?
Or, could this be some kind of poisoning?

What does your vet say?

--
Lynne

"Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather
than the victim."
- Bertrand Russell

on Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:03:43 GMT, "Fette" wrote:

However, she was experiencing
vommitting (yellow stuff) in her mouth frequently and then she would
swallow it. One time she actually threw up on the floor. Again, it
looked yellow.

Now that is a something I would consider a sign of distress. Please be
sure to be absolutely clear about this with your vet, that's not the same
as what I interpreted from your initial post.

Also, I'm shocked she isn't on any antibiotics. Your dental vet sounds
like someone to never go to again IMO. Please ask your vet about putting
her on antibiotics.

--
Lynne

http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/

Hi Lynne,

I don't have much experience, how come vommitting yellow stuff is more
worrisome that vommitting in general?

I also cannot understand why she is not on antibiotics, I specifically
asked our dental vet to put her on some.

I fully agree - we will hopefully never be faced with going to this
dental vet again. Unfortunately, he is the only one anywhere near
(within hours) of where we live.

Lynne wrote:
on Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:03:43 GMT, "Fette" wrote:

However, she was experiencing
vommitting (yellow stuff) in her mouth frequently and then she would
swallow it. One time she actually threw up on the floor. Again, it
looked yellow.

Now that is a something I would consider a sign of distress. Please be
sure to be absolutely clear about this with your vet, that's not the same
as what I interpreted from your initial post.

Also, I'm shocked she isn't on any antibiotics. Your dental vet sounds
like someone to never go to again IMO. Please ask your vet about putting
her on antibiotics.

--
Lynne

http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/

Fette wrote:

I don't have much experience, how come vommitting yellow stuff is more
worrisome that vommitting in general?

Occasional yellow vomiting, especially when it's been a long stretch
since the last meal, is not usually a problem. When the stomach is
empty for too long, the dog can vomit bile, which is should be some
shade of yellow. (Green, on the other hand, is bad news!)

Repeatedly vomiting bile, though, would make me worried about
possible liver damage. I'd want to consult with my vet, to see if
it's possible that the liver was compromised during surgery, by the
anesthesia. If that were the case, it might take a few days for the
dog to start showing symptoms, because it would take time for the
unfiltered toxins to build up.

I also cannot understand why she is not on antibiotics, I specifically
asked our dental vet to put her on some.

That's yet another question to put to your vet. I've had vets
withhold antibiotics after routine surgery, because presumably it
was a sterile procedure. Dental surgery is another matter, though.
The mouth is *anything* but sterile!

I fully agree - we will hopefully never be faced with going to this
dental vet again. Unfortunately, he is the only one anywhere near
(within hours) of where we live.

Well, the "good" news is that it sounds like the vet preemptively
took care of that concern for you!

--
Shelly (Warning: see label for details)
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

Tara wrote in
4.196:

...I can't imagine
calling with unusual side effects of surgery, having the vet TELL me
they are not com common reactions, and then get NO further information
from them on how to deal with it.

Heh. Unfortunately, I can. An acquaintance in another newsgroup had
several wisdom teeth extracted. In the process, the oral surgeon broke her
jaw and damaged several facial nerves. The surgeon was far, far less than
interested and helpful when she expressed her concerns.

That is just wrong),

Exactly. Even the most skilled practitioner has some cases go south in a
major way. But sending the client away with a few painkillers and a
patronizing pat on the head doesn't count as "good medicine" in my book,
either.