My neighbour and I walk our three border collies off leash most
mornings.
This includes a neutered female and male (both 3.5 years old) and
another male (5 years old) who is not neutered.
The female is the alpha dog and they all get along very well.

When we encounter a specific male dog that is not neutered, the
neutered male starts growling, barking, snapping and jumping up on the
border collie who is not neutered. There is no biting and he stops very
quickly upon command.

Sometimes we also walk an older neutered poodle so that there are four
dogs. In this case, the neutered border collie carries on with the
poodle when we meet the other male who is not neutered.

Does anyone have any idea what is happening?

Thank you in advance.

On 26 Jan 2007 11:56:59 -0800, "allanc"
wrote:

My neighbour and I walk our three border collies off leash most
mornings.
This includes a neutered female and male (both 3.5 years old) and
another male (5 years old) who is not neutered.
The female is the alpha dog and they all get along very well.

When we encounter a specific male dog that is not neutered, the
neutered male starts growling, barking, snapping and jumping up on the
border collie who is not neutered. There is no biting and he stops very
quickly upon command.

Sometimes we also walk an older neutered poodle so that there are four
dogs. In this case, the neutered border collie carries on with the
poodle when we meet the other male who is not neutered.

Does anyone have any idea what is happening?

Basically what seems to be happening is: 3, sometimes 4 dogs are being
walked by 2, maybe even 3 owners who are apparently:

1. clueless.

or

2. scofflaws.

or

3. inviting trouble.

or

4. all of the above.

Otherwise, I'm not sure what's happening.

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

On Jan 26, 3:45 pm, Handsome Jack Morrison
wrote:
On 26 Jan 2007 11:56:59 -0800, "allanc"
wrote:





My neighbour and I walk our three border collies off leash most
mornings.
This includes a neutered female and male (both 3.5 years old) and
another male (5 years old) who is not neutered.
The female is the alpha dog and they all get along very well.

When we encounter a specific male dog that is not neutered, the
neutered male starts growling, barking, snapping and jumping up on the
border collie who is not neutered. There is no biting and he stops very
quickly upon command.

Sometimes we also walk an older neutered poodle so that there are four
dogs. In this case, the neutered border collie carries on with the
poodle when we meet the other male who is not neutered.

Does anyone have any idea what is happening?Basically what seems to be happening is: 3, sometimes 4 dogs are being
walked by 2, maybe even 3 owners who are apparently:

1. clueless.

or

2. scofflaws.

or

3. inviting trouble.

or

4. all of the above.

Otherwise, I'm not sure what's happening.

--
Handsome Jack Morrison- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
Hmmm...
Must be a Friday afternoon.
Actually, you can add #5 to your list which is 'None of the above'.

On 26 Jan 2007 13:20:03 -0800, "allanc"
wrote:

On Jan 26, 3:45 pm, Handsome Jack Morrison
wrote:
On 26 Jan 2007 11:56:59 -0800, "allanc"
wrote:

My neighbour and I walk our three border collies off leash most
mornings.
This includes a neutered female and male (both 3.5 years old) and
another male (5 years old) who is not neutered.
The female is the alpha dog and they all get along very well.

When we encounter a specific male dog that is not neutered, the
neutered male starts growling, barking, snapping and jumping up on the
border collie who is not neutered. There is no biting and he stops very
quickly upon command.

Sometimes we also walk an older neutered poodle so that there are four
dogs. In this case, the neutered border collie carries on with the
poodle when we meet the other male who is not neutered.

Does anyone have any idea what is happening?Basically what seems to be happening is: 3, sometimes 4 dogs are being
walked by 2, maybe even 3 owners who are apparently:

1. clueless.

or

2. scofflaws.

or

3. inviting trouble.

or

4. all of the above.

Otherwise, I'm not sure what's happening.


Hmmm...
Must be a Friday afternoon.

I would have given you the same answer yesterday.

Actually, you can add #5 to your list which is 'None of the above'.

Okay.

But only time will tell.

So I hope, for the sake of everyone involved, particularly the dogs,
that it is #5.

Good luck!

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

on Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:56:59 GMT, "allanc"
wrote:

My neighbour and I walk our three border collies off leash most
mornings.
This includes a neutered female and male (both 3.5 years old) and
another male (5 years old) who is not neutered.

You are walking an un-neutered male off-leash?? Has it occured to you what
might happen if he catches a whiff of a female in heat?

--
Lynne

"allanc" wrote in
oups.com:


Does anyone have any idea what is happening?

Short answer that is clearly NOT based on first hand observation:

There are plenty of neutered males that get aggressive towards unneutered
males, especially ones they are unfamiliar with.

A different type of aggression is what's called "redirected" in that the
dog takes aggression that would be directed at one thing, and displaces it
towards another (often more familiar) thing.

Sounds like you might be dealing with not only one, but both types of
aggression here.

Either way, you need to take more care and more charge of your dog in those
circumstances as that behavior is absolutely not acceptable.

Tara

On Jan 26, 9:57 pm, Tara wrote:
"allanc" wrote groups.com:

Does anyone have any idea what is happening?Short answer that is clearly NOT based on first hand observation:

There are plenty of neutered males that get aggressive towards unneutered
males, especially ones they are unfamiliar with.

A different type of aggression is what's called "redirected" in that the
dog takes aggression that would be directed at one thing, and displaces it
towards another (often more familiar) thing.

Sounds like you might be dealing with not only one, but both types of
aggression here.

Either way, you need to take more care and more charge of your dog in those
circumstances as that behavior is absolutely not acceptable.

Tara

Thank you Tara.
That explanation is very plausible.

On Jan 27, 2:47 pm,
Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Resea rch_Laborat...@hotmai
l.com wrote:
HOWEDY allanc,

On Jan 27, 7:51 am, "allanc" wrote:

On Jan 26, 9:57 pm, Tara wrote:

"allanc" wrote groups.com:

Does anyone have any idea what is happening?Yeah. That's typical of surgically sexually mutilated dogs.

Short answer that is clearly NOT based on first hand observation:tarag seems to think EXXXPERT dog trainers GOTTA SEE fearful
behaviors PRYOR to DIEagnosin them and tellin you HOWE to
CURE it, allanc {): ~ (

Yes. That is the smart thing to do. So, you don't think the smart
approach is a good idea, AssHowe?



There are plenty of neutered males that get
aggressive towards unneutered males,AND FEMALES. NHOWE THAT'S sumpthin you'll NEVER SEE in nature.

especially ones they are unfamiliar with.That's irrelevent.

A different type of aggression is what's called
"redirected" in that the dog takes aggression
that would be directed at one thing, and displaces
it towards another (often more familiar) thing.Kinda like HOWE a dog redirects greetin behavior
on a toy. HOWEver, to train a dog to redirect on
another object may cause an accidental bite if the
surrogate toy is unavailable.

*Anything* MAY cause ANYTHING. But if you stick to the proper methods
- not "your" so-called methods - then the likelyhood of such is
limited.

How about we just all go out and spike dogs' temps to a deadly 106
degrees, child molestor?