Yesterday I was standing perfectly still, one second laughing at SheBop
being goofy, the next yowling in pain as she body slammed me, knocking
my right knee out from supporting my body weight, which sprained my
ankle. And I'm leaving in a couple hours to go run (sic) Gris-Gris and
Shammie in the Flash Paws agility trial. I guess we'll be practicing
distance handling... (Anyone going to be there? Wanna run a couple
extra dogs? ;-/)

If the bitch wasn't so cute, I'd kick the tar out of her - no wait, I
can't stand on one foot to kick her. So I'd just beat her. And not feed
her dinner. Yeah, beat her and starve her, that's what I'd do. Damn her
cuteness!!

Susan "Pushover" Fraser
and the (pushy but cute) AuH2Ok9s:
GulDurnSheBop, Shammie and Gris-Gris

"Susan Fraser" wrote in news:1169844177.247365.40930
@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Yesterday I was standing perfectly still, one second laughing at SheBop
being goofy, the next yowling in pain as she body slammed me, knocking
my right knee out from supporting my body weight, which sprained my
ankle.

Youch! Of course, our laughing at their antics is the adult equivalent of
those childhood admonishments, "you'll put your eye out" and "it will end
in tears." If I laugh too much at Q, she runs right toward me and jumps
and pushes me -- it's a permissible play move, but sometimes it's a bit
much.

You're right, though, it's a good thing they're cute! Hope your ankle
heals fast.

--
Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Max the Pomeranian
& Rosalie the calico cat

Susan Fraser wrote:
Yesterday I was standing perfectly still, one second laughing at SheBop
being goofy, the next yowling in pain as she body slammed me, knocking
my right knee out from supporting my body weight, which sprained my
ankle.

Yeowie! That must have hurt! Dylan was responsible for a
similarly caused sprained knee, a broken finger, and skin scraped
almost to bone off a knee and palm.

If the bitch wasn't so cute, I'd kick the tar out of her - no wait, I
can't stand on one foot to kick her. So I'd just beat her. And not feed
her dinner. Yeah, beat her and starve her, that's what I'd do. Damn her
cuteness!!

Yup, cuteness is the only thing that saves them!

FurPaw
--
Better dead than Red.

To reply, unleash the dog.

Susan,
I am sorry to hear about your attack dog causing injuries. I hope you
feel better soon.
Your dogs sure do have cute names She-bop, Shammie and Gris-Gris....I
like em....cute!!!!!


Be Free.....Judy

Susan Fraser wrote:


If the bitch wasn't so cute, I'd kick the tar out of her - no wait, I
can't stand on one foot to kick her. So I'd just beat her. And not feed
her dinner. Yeah, beat her and starve her, that's what I'd do. Damn her
cuteness!!


Well let's look at the bright side. I'd rather it be my ankle than my
knee. Knee injuries suck twinkies. Ankle injuries, at least for me, have
been non-debilitating long term.

Get some Arnica Montana and take it. Strap the ankle and go. My own
self-medication, which flies in the face of what most doctors say, is to
be on it as often as you comfortably can while keeping it braced enough
to prevent reinjury. I think the more you move on it the less swelling
there will be, and the more circulation that's in there the quicker it
will heal. Some MD will come on here and scream at me for the advice so
take it or leave it.

FWIW--anecdote. At a NADAC trial in December I very unwisely tried a
front cross on Cala during a Tunneler's course. She sent me flying and
my ankle buckled and popped. I rolled around on the dirt for awhile
thinking "Ow, ****, OW!!" Then I got up and hobbled through the rest of
the run (and was even clean but .02 seconds over time). I had 6 more
runs to do that day. I did 5 of the 6, dropping one. The ankle swelled,
but not as much as it would have and though it took a couple of weeks,
it was healed within that time.

on Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:16:18 GMT, Robin Nuttall
wrote:

Get some Arnica Montana and take it. Strap the ankle and go. My own
self-medication, which flies in the face of what most doctors say, is
to be on it as often as you comfortably can while keeping it braced
enough to prevent reinjury. I think the more you move on it the less
swelling there will be, and the more circulation that's in there the
quicker it will heal. Some MD will come on here and scream at me for
the advice so take it or leave it.

You aren't that far off base. I've sprained both of my ankles on
multiple occasions. I still have 2 severed ligaments in one ankle (I
opted to pass on the surgery to repair them). With ankle sprains, a day
or 2 max of staying off, but with lots of intermittent RICE - rest, ice,
compression and elevation, every few hours. Add to that exercise as
pain allows, which should start off very gently with a focus on
strengthening the supporting muscles in the feet. Use those therapy
bands. Then graduate to heel raises, etc.

The best supportive ankle brace out the Active Ankle. You can wrap
underneath it for compression for as long as you need it, and use it in
nearly any shoe. I've tried them all.

http://activeankle.com/

--
Lynne

Robin Nuttall advised:
Strap the ankle and go.

Yup, that's what I did. And with good results Saturday - Gris-Gris
took 1st in ExA Std and 1st in ExA JWW! But it was pretty sore today
so not so good. Plus today, the courses were not as rear cross
friendly and I struggled on front crosses, so of course Gris knocked
bars, but Shammie (who runs at a more, um, limp-accessible pace ;-)
did Q.

Get some Arnica Montana and take it.

I'll get some in the AM. I do agree Robin and Lynne, with the
practical advice - this isn't the first time I've sprained this ankle
- probably not in the single digits of times. I quit mollycoddling it
since I started running agility, but my ankle has been a bigger
impediment to Gris-Gris' agility career even than all the upheaval
with Katrina. But I am sick of it, and am going to an ortho doc this
week.

Lynne commiserated:
I still have 2 severed ligaments in one ankle (I opted to pass on the surgery to repair them).

I figure I'll hear something similar - might I ask why you don't want
surgery?

The best supportive ankle brace out the Active Ankle. You can wrap
underneath it for compression for as long as you need it, and use it in
nearly any shoe. I've tried them all.

http://activeankle.com/

Thanks - I saved the link in my "ankle brace" file - I've tried quite
a few too (what makes me mad was that I wasn't even taped because I
wasn't *doing* anything when the Bopper bopped me). I have one that
looks similar, but the plate under the foot is bigger and curved,
supposed to support the arch, but it just bugs me, and also doesn't
fit well in ANY shoe. Depending on what I find out at the doc, I'll
order one of these for my collection...

Meanwhile, I get good results from taping : http://www.smartplay.net/
ouch/injury_manage/taping.html
At least, that is, until the skin starts to peel off with the tape ;-O

Susan "Hop-a-long" Fraser
and the (happy to run on ahead) AuH2Ok9s
BeBop a lu SheBop SH,
Shamma Lamma Ding Dong UD MH AX AXJ,
and Gris-Gris Gumbo Ya Ya 1/3 AX, 1/3 AXJ

on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 04:04:47 GMT, "Susan Fraser" wrote:

I figure I'll hear something similar - might I ask why you don't want
surgery?

By the time my ortho determnined the ligaments were completely severed and
not going to heal, I was 6 months out from the injury. I was still having
some pain, but was strong and fully functional and I didn't want to start
over with my recovery. Also, I have a bleeding disorder and am a slow
healer. Surgery is always a risk, and I've had enough surgery to last
several lifetimes.

Looking back, I don't regret not having the surgery. So long as I keep my
feet strong, I don't really notice that the ligaments are gone. Once in a
while I do freak people out when I turn that ankle and it touches the
inside of my leg. On the bright side, no ligaments to tear! I just hope I
don't regret that decision when I'm an old woman.

Good luck with your recovery. Lodge a complaint with the powers that be
about ankles--they really are a **** poor design.

--
Lynne

Susan Fraser wrote:

I figure I'll hear something similar - might I ask why you don't want
surgery?

I'm not Lynne and I haven't had the surgery either but I really shy away
from ankle surgery--the (very few) people I know who have had it really
haven't seen that much functional improvement. Ditto wrist surgery. I've
had friends with somewhat more improvement with knee surgery, but some
really haven't had much improvement at all including my nephew, who is
now on his 2nd knee surgery at less than 20 years old.

So though I'm not anti-surgery, I think that joint surgery in active
people is not something I'd do unless I really had no choice.

on Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:00:45 GMT, Robin Nuttall
wrote:

So though I'm not anti-surgery, I think that joint surgery in active
people is not something I'd do unless I really had no choice.

I agree with you. Surgery, to me, is a last resort. I did have knee
surgery last year and am very glad for it. My knee looked like a snow
globe before. My doc pulled out a large amount of floating cartilege and
bone, which was locking up my knee and causing horrible pain. Since I'm
a bleeder the recovery was very long, but the difference was night and
day and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. My only regret is putting it off
for so long. The bad news is that I am going to need knee replacement
long before I'm really old enough for it to be a good choice.

No more skiing for me. Well maybe.

I also passed on laminectomy for 2 ruptured discs in my back in '91. I
had the shrapnel removed, and over the years had a handful of
neurologists and surgeons tell me surgery was my only option. I had a
couple of years of crippling pain, but have since learned that as long as
I keep my abs strong, I'm far better off than I would be had I opted for
surgery.

One thing people need to remember: give a man a hammer and everything
looks like a nail. Surgeons will almost always recommend surgery. It's
what they do.

--
Lynne