"sighthounds etc." wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:19:41 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


I'm sure you posted this when you first got him, but I have a mind
like a sieve some days...do you know anything about Sonny's
background? I'm wondering if he was taken from his litter before 8
weeks or so; that might account for his snarkiness with Ezra, and
perhaps for his reluctance to play. Or maybe he just doesn't know how
to play, but will learn in time. That's strange that he gets angry
when Ezra invites him to play. It does sound like maybe he left his
litter too young, so that he isn't very good at reading dog body
language. I hope this improves with time. And short attention
span...perhaps he needs medication for ADD. G

Well, you don't necessarily need a professional trainer to work with
your own dog, especially if you've gone to classes before. It can be
helpful, though, to have a "pro" around to just take a look at what's
going on and get someone else's ideas. However better to go it on
your own than to use the wrong trainer, and it sounds like the trainer
in your town would be the wrong trainer for both your dogs. We're in
a similar position trainer-wise; a disadvantage of not living in a
city, I suppose. It sounds as if you're making progress with Sonny,
at least in some things. Sending good thoughts that he keeps
progressing and gets a clue about the joys of playing with other dogs.

Sally


- All we know is that he was used as a guard dog at a construction site.
Then when the work was done, the workers left without him. He was there
alone for 2 months with a guy in the neighbourhood taking pity on him
feeding him once in a while, before he came into rescue. He was about 15
kilos underweight, filled with lice and missed a lot of his fur and has bad
teeth. He does have a very short attention spam, nothing sticks and nothing
can keep his interest for more than a few minutes.
I never used a trainer with Ezra. I contacted a few but none of them
would touch her, they all said that she was too dangerous and too far gone.
Since then we have looked around a bit but all of the places we have been,
they have either been to frightened of her, too crowded (she doesn't do well
with dogs jumping all over her) or had classes at for us impossible times.
Since I don't drive Morten has to be home to drive, but he works evenings
each second week. Oh well I think she has turned out all right, she listens
and has all basic commands down well. In fact I have only attended puppy
class with my first dog and that was only a couple as Morten was the one who
took him.
Sonny will get better, I know what he likes and doesn't like, so I just
avoid the things he doesn't like and work on things like being near and
touching him when he eats, holding his collar and things like that. One
thing is sure, he will let me know when he doesn't like something. he is a
sweet guy, there are just some things that he doesn't like.

Lone

"sighthounds etc." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:19:41 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


I'm sure you posted this when you first got him, but I have a mind
like a sieve some days...do you know anything about Sonny's
background? I'm wondering if he was taken from his litter before 8
weeks or so; that might account for his snarkiness with Ezra, and
perhaps for his reluctance to play. Or maybe he just doesn't know how
to play, but will learn in time. That's strange that he gets angry
when Ezra invites him to play. It does sound like maybe he left his
litter too young, so that he isn't very good at reading dog body
language. I hope this improves with time. And short attention
span...perhaps he needs medication for ADD. G

Well, you don't necessarily need a professional trainer to work with
your own dog, especially if you've gone to classes before. It can be
helpful, though, to have a "pro" around to just take a look at what's
going on and get someone else's ideas. However better to go it on
your own than to use the wrong trainer, and it sounds like the trainer
in your town would be the wrong trainer for both your dogs. We're in
a similar position trainer-wise; a disadvantage of not living in a
city, I suppose. It sounds as if you're making progress with Sonny,
at least in some things. Sending good thoughts that he keeps
progressing and gets a clue about the joys of playing with other dogs.

Sally


- All we know is that he was used as a guard dog at a construction site.
Then when the work was done, the workers left without him. He was there
alone for 2 months with a guy in the neighbourhood taking pity on him
feeding him once in a while, before he came into rescue. He was about 15
kilos underweight, filled with lice and missed a lot of his fur and has bad
teeth. He does have a very short attention spam, nothing sticks and nothing
can keep his interest for more than a few minutes.
I never used a trainer with Ezra. I contacted a few but none of them
would touch her, they all said that she was too dangerous and too far gone.
Since then we have looked around a bit but all of the places we have been,
they have either been to frightened of her, too crowded (she doesn't do well
with dogs jumping all over her) or had classes at for us impossible times.
Since I don't drive Morten has to be home to drive, but he works evenings
each second week. Oh well I think she has turned out all right, she listens
and has all basic commands down well. In fact I have only attended puppy
class with my first dog and that was only a couple as Morten was the one who
took him.
Sonny will get better, I know what he likes and doesn't like, so I just
avoid the things he doesn't like and work on things like being near and
touching him when he eats, holding his collar and things like that. One
thing is sure, he will let me know when he doesn't like something. he is a
sweet guy, there are just some things that he doesn't like.

Lone

"sighthounds etc." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:19:41 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


I'm sure you posted this when you first got him, but I have a mind
like a sieve some days...do you know anything about Sonny's
background? I'm wondering if he was taken from his litter before 8
weeks or so; that might account for his snarkiness with Ezra, and
perhaps for his reluctance to play. Or maybe he just doesn't know how
to play, but will learn in time. That's strange that he gets angry
when Ezra invites him to play. It does sound like maybe he left his
litter too young, so that he isn't very good at reading dog body
language. I hope this improves with time. And short attention
span...perhaps he needs medication for ADD. G

Well, you don't necessarily need a professional trainer to work with
your own dog, especially if you've gone to classes before. It can be
helpful, though, to have a "pro" around to just take a look at what's
going on and get someone else's ideas. However better to go it on
your own than to use the wrong trainer, and it sounds like the trainer
in your town would be the wrong trainer for both your dogs. We're in
a similar position trainer-wise; a disadvantage of not living in a
city, I suppose. It sounds as if you're making progress with Sonny,
at least in some things. Sending good thoughts that he keeps
progressing and gets a clue about the joys of playing with other dogs.

Sally


- All we know is that he was used as a guard dog at a construction site.
Then when the work was done, the workers left without him. He was there
alone for 2 months with a guy in the neighbourhood taking pity on him
feeding him once in a while, before he came into rescue. He was about 15
kilos underweight, filled with lice and missed a lot of his fur and has bad
teeth. He does have a very short attention spam, nothing sticks and nothing
can keep his interest for more than a few minutes.
I never used a trainer with Ezra. I contacted a few but none of them
would touch her, they all said that she was too dangerous and too far gone.
Since then we have looked around a bit but all of the places we have been,
they have either been to frightened of her, too crowded (she doesn't do well
with dogs jumping all over her) or had classes at for us impossible times.
Since I don't drive Morten has to be home to drive, but he works evenings
each second week. Oh well I think she has turned out all right, she listens
and has all basic commands down well. In fact I have only attended puppy
class with my first dog and that was only a couple as Morten was the one who
took him.
Sonny will get better, I know what he likes and doesn't like, so I just
avoid the things he doesn't like and work on things like being near and
touching him when he eats, holding his collar and things like that. One
thing is sure, he will let me know when he doesn't like something. he is a
sweet guy, there are just some things that he doesn't like.

Lone

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:06:26 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


"sighthounds etc." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:19:41 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


I'm sure you posted this when you first got him, but I have a mind
like a sieve some days...do you know anything about Sonny's
background? I'm wondering if he was taken from his litter before 8
weeks or so; that might account for his snarkiness with Ezra, and
perhaps for his reluctance to play. Or maybe he just doesn't know how
to play, but will learn in time. That's strange that he gets angry
when Ezra invites him to play. It does sound like maybe he left his
litter too young, so that he isn't very good at reading dog body
language. I hope this improves with time. And short attention
span...perhaps he needs medication for ADD. G

Well, you don't necessarily need a professional trainer to work with
your own dog, especially if you've gone to classes before. It can be
helpful, though, to have a "pro" around to just take a look at what's
going on and get someone else's ideas. However better to go it on
your own than to use the wrong trainer, and it sounds like the trainer
in your town would be the wrong trainer for both your dogs. We're in
a similar position trainer-wise; a disadvantage of not living in a
city, I suppose. It sounds as if you're making progress with Sonny,
at least in some things. Sending good thoughts that he keeps
progressing and gets a clue about the joys of playing with other dogs.

Sally


- All we know is that he was used as a guard dog at a construction site.
Then when the work was done, the workers left without him. He was there
alone for 2 months with a guy in the neighbourhood taking pity on him
feeding him once in a while, before he came into rescue. He was about 15
kilos underweight, filled with lice and missed a lot of his fur and has bad
teeth. He does have a very short attention spam, nothing sticks and nothing
can keep his interest for more than a few minutes.

Wow. No wonder he's got problems.

I never used a trainer with Ezra. I contacted a few but none of them
would touch her, they all said that she was too dangerous and too far gone.
Since then we have looked around a bit but all of the places we have been,
they have either been to frightened of her, too crowded (she doesn't do well
with dogs jumping all over her) or had classes at for us impossible times.
Since I don't drive Morten has to be home to drive, but he works evenings
each second week. Oh well I think she has turned out all right, she listens
and has all basic commands down well. In fact I have only attended puppy
class with my first dog and that was only a couple as Morten was the one who
took him.

You've done great with Ezra. I think that if a person is dedicated to
working with the dog and has some basic knowledge of how dogs learn,
common sense and patience, a lot can be accomplished.

Sonny will get better, I know what he likes and doesn't like, so I just
avoid the things he doesn't like and work on things like being near and
touching him when he eats, holding his collar and things like that. One
thing is sure, he will let me know when he doesn't like something. he is a
sweet guy, there are just some things that he doesn't like.

I'm sure he will improve a lot. It would just be nice, and he would
probably be so much happier, if he and Ezra could get along and play.

Sally

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:06:26 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


"sighthounds etc." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:19:41 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


I'm sure you posted this when you first got him, but I have a mind
like a sieve some days...do you know anything about Sonny's
background? I'm wondering if he was taken from his litter before 8
weeks or so; that might account for his snarkiness with Ezra, and
perhaps for his reluctance to play. Or maybe he just doesn't know how
to play, but will learn in time. That's strange that he gets angry
when Ezra invites him to play. It does sound like maybe he left his
litter too young, so that he isn't very good at reading dog body
language. I hope this improves with time. And short attention
span...perhaps he needs medication for ADD. G

Well, you don't necessarily need a professional trainer to work with
your own dog, especially if you've gone to classes before. It can be
helpful, though, to have a "pro" around to just take a look at what's
going on and get someone else's ideas. However better to go it on
your own than to use the wrong trainer, and it sounds like the trainer
in your town would be the wrong trainer for both your dogs. We're in
a similar position trainer-wise; a disadvantage of not living in a
city, I suppose. It sounds as if you're making progress with Sonny,
at least in some things. Sending good thoughts that he keeps
progressing and gets a clue about the joys of playing with other dogs.

Sally


- All we know is that he was used as a guard dog at a construction site.
Then when the work was done, the workers left without him. He was there
alone for 2 months with a guy in the neighbourhood taking pity on him
feeding him once in a while, before he came into rescue. He was about 15
kilos underweight, filled with lice and missed a lot of his fur and has bad
teeth. He does have a very short attention spam, nothing sticks and nothing
can keep his interest for more than a few minutes.

Wow. No wonder he's got problems.

I never used a trainer with Ezra. I contacted a few but none of them
would touch her, they all said that she was too dangerous and too far gone.
Since then we have looked around a bit but all of the places we have been,
they have either been to frightened of her, too crowded (she doesn't do well
with dogs jumping all over her) or had classes at for us impossible times.
Since I don't drive Morten has to be home to drive, but he works evenings
each second week. Oh well I think she has turned out all right, she listens
and has all basic commands down well. In fact I have only attended puppy
class with my first dog and that was only a couple as Morten was the one who
took him.

You've done great with Ezra. I think that if a person is dedicated to
working with the dog and has some basic knowledge of how dogs learn,
common sense and patience, a lot can be accomplished.

Sonny will get better, I know what he likes and doesn't like, so I just
avoid the things he doesn't like and work on things like being near and
touching him when he eats, holding his collar and things like that. One
thing is sure, he will let me know when he doesn't like something. he is a
sweet guy, there are just some things that he doesn't like.

I'm sure he will improve a lot. It would just be nice, and he would
probably be so much happier, if he and Ezra could get along and play.

Sally

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:06:26 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


"sighthounds etc." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:19:41 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


I'm sure you posted this when you first got him, but I have a mind
like a sieve some days...do you know anything about Sonny's
background? I'm wondering if he was taken from his litter before 8
weeks or so; that might account for his snarkiness with Ezra, and
perhaps for his reluctance to play. Or maybe he just doesn't know how
to play, but will learn in time. That's strange that he gets angry
when Ezra invites him to play. It does sound like maybe he left his
litter too young, so that he isn't very good at reading dog body
language. I hope this improves with time. And short attention
span...perhaps he needs medication for ADD. G

Well, you don't necessarily need a professional trainer to work with
your own dog, especially if you've gone to classes before. It can be
helpful, though, to have a "pro" around to just take a look at what's
going on and get someone else's ideas. However better to go it on
your own than to use the wrong trainer, and it sounds like the trainer
in your town would be the wrong trainer for both your dogs. We're in
a similar position trainer-wise; a disadvantage of not living in a
city, I suppose. It sounds as if you're making progress with Sonny,
at least in some things. Sending good thoughts that he keeps
progressing and gets a clue about the joys of playing with other dogs.

Sally


- All we know is that he was used as a guard dog at a construction site.
Then when the work was done, the workers left without him. He was there
alone for 2 months with a guy in the neighbourhood taking pity on him
feeding him once in a while, before he came into rescue. He was about 15
kilos underweight, filled with lice and missed a lot of his fur and has bad
teeth. He does have a very short attention spam, nothing sticks and nothing
can keep his interest for more than a few minutes.

Wow. No wonder he's got problems.

I never used a trainer with Ezra. I contacted a few but none of them
would touch her, they all said that she was too dangerous and too far gone.
Since then we have looked around a bit but all of the places we have been,
they have either been to frightened of her, too crowded (she doesn't do well
with dogs jumping all over her) or had classes at for us impossible times.
Since I don't drive Morten has to be home to drive, but he works evenings
each second week. Oh well I think she has turned out all right, she listens
and has all basic commands down well. In fact I have only attended puppy
class with my first dog and that was only a couple as Morten was the one who
took him.

You've done great with Ezra. I think that if a person is dedicated to
working with the dog and has some basic knowledge of how dogs learn,
common sense and patience, a lot can be accomplished.

Sonny will get better, I know what he likes and doesn't like, so I just
avoid the things he doesn't like and work on things like being near and
touching him when he eats, holding his collar and things like that. One
thing is sure, he will let me know when he doesn't like something. he is a
sweet guy, there are just some things that he doesn't like.

I'm sure he will improve a lot. It would just be nice, and he would
probably be so much happier, if he and Ezra could get along and play.

Sally

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:06:26 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


"sighthounds etc." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:19:41 -0000, "Lone Hansen"
wrote:


I'm sure you posted this when you first got him, but I have a mind
like a sieve some days...do you know anything about Sonny's
background? I'm wondering if he was taken from his litter before 8
weeks or so; that might account for his snarkiness with Ezra, and
perhaps for his reluctance to play. Or maybe he just doesn't know how
to play, but will learn in time. That's strange that he gets angry
when Ezra invites him to play. It does sound like maybe he left his
litter too young, so that he isn't very good at reading dog body
language. I hope this improves with time. And short attention
span...perhaps he needs medication for ADD. G

Well, you don't necessarily need a professional trainer to work with
your own dog, especially if you've gone to classes before. It can be
helpful, though, to have a "pro" around to just take a look at what's
going on and get someone else's ideas. However better to go it on
your own than to use the wrong trainer, and it sounds like the trainer
in your town would be the wrong trainer for both your dogs. We're in
a similar position trainer-wise; a disadvantage of not living in a
city, I suppose. It sounds as if you're making progress with Sonny,
at least in some things. Sending good thoughts that he keeps
progressing and gets a clue about the joys of playing with other dogs.

Sally


- All we know is that he was used as a guard dog at a construction site.
Then when the work was done, the workers left without him. He was there
alone for 2 months with a guy in the neighbourhood taking pity on him
feeding him once in a while, before he came into rescue. He was about 15
kilos underweight, filled with lice and missed a lot of his fur and has bad
teeth. He does have a very short attention spam, nothing sticks and nothing
can keep his interest for more than a few minutes.

Wow. No wonder he's got problems.

I never used a trainer with Ezra. I contacted a few but none of them
would touch her, they all said that she was too dangerous and too far gone.
Since then we have looked around a bit but all of the places we have been,
they have either been to frightened of her, too crowded (she doesn't do well
with dogs jumping all over her) or had classes at for us impossible times.
Since I don't drive Morten has to be home to drive, but he works evenings
each second week. Oh well I think she has turned out all right, she listens
and has all basic commands down well. In fact I have only attended puppy
class with my first dog and that was only a couple as Morten was the one who
took him.

You've done great with Ezra. I think that if a person is dedicated to
working with the dog and has some basic knowledge of how dogs learn,
common sense and patience, a lot can be accomplished.

Sonny will get better, I know what he likes and doesn't like, so I just
avoid the things he doesn't like and work on things like being near and
touching him when he eats, holding his collar and things like that. One
thing is sure, he will let me know when he doesn't like something. he is a
sweet guy, there are just some things that he doesn't like.

I'm sure he will improve a lot. It would just be nice, and he would
probably be so much happier, if he and Ezra could get along and play.

Sally