Heard about this situation at work and was wondering what others would think
about it...........

Someone gives up a dog to a rescue and the dog is placed in a foster home
for 2 months. When they give up the dog, they also give the crate, toys,
dishes, 6 months of medical supplies (frontline, heartworm, etc), with the
stipulation that whoever adopts the dog would get all the stuff too. The
person stays in contact with the foster home so they can make sure the dog
is fine and see if it got adopted. The person decides after 2 months that
they can't be without the dog any longer and need to get it back. The
rescue wants to make them pay an adoption fee and doesn't want to give the
person back all the supplies that came with the dog. The person wants her
supplies but agrees to pay the fee (basically considering it a "boarding"
fee but also because she just really wants her dog back).

What seems like the best or most common way to handle/resolve this?

on Sun, 27 May 2007 01:36:10 GMT, "MauiJNP" wrote:

What seems like the best or most common way to handle/resolve this?

She's lucky the rescue will even consider adopting the dog back to her. I
wouldn't, not unless she had a very, very compelling hard luck story that
explained her giving the dog up in the first place.

As to the supplies, she should just write those off and count herself very
lucky if they let her adopt that dog back. She may have stipulated that
they go to the home that adopted the dog, but the rescue was under no
obligation to handle them that way. They will likely use them wherever
they are most needed--perhaps for dogs in foster care--as they should. She
can write them off on her taxes if the rescue qualifies as a non-profit.

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Lynne

Lynne wrote in
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on Sun, 27 May 2007 01:36:10 GMT, "MauiJNP" wrote:

What seems like the best or most common way to handle/resolve this?

She's lucky the rescue will even consider adopting the dog back to
her. I wouldn't, not unless she had a very, very compelling hard luck
story that explained her giving the dog up in the first place.

Personally, I would *consider* it, but I'd definitely charge her far
more than the adoption fee.....because 2 months of boarding costs way
more than an adopter would pay.

Keep in mind that adoption fees rarely cover the cost of processing a
dog through the rescue system. Just the time it takes acclimating a new
dog into a household while watching to make sure they aren't harboring
any illnesses is worth more than most groups charge as fees.

As to the supplies, she should just write those off and count herself
very lucky if they let her adopt that dog back.

I agree.

I'm amazed if they are only charging her an adoption fee.

I've gotten more than one call from wealthy owners who wanted me to find
a "foster home" for their dog while they were renovating their apartment
or (in one case) their townhouse. I told them that "foster" means that
someone is taking care of the dog for free **with the intention of
rehoming the dog**

Otherwise, its called boarding, and the applicable fees are charged.

Tara

What seems like the best or most common way to handle/resolve this?

She's lucky the rescue will even consider adopting the dog back to her. I
wouldn't, not unless she had a very, very compelling hard luck story that
explained her giving the dog up in the first place.


I am not sure of all the details surrounding the surrender but I think it
was based on the owner being injured and not being fair to the dog (not
getting the proper time, attention and exercise).


As to the supplies, she should just write those off and count herself very
lucky if they let her adopt that dog back. She may have stipulated that
they go to the home that adopted the dog, but the rescue was under no
obligation to handle them that way. They will likely use them wherever
they are most needed--perhaps for dogs in foster care--as they should.
She
can write them off on her taxes if the rescue qualifies as a non-profit.


As for the supplies, what happening is the rescue ended up giving her a
crate for the dog but it was an old junky one instead of her new fancy one.
And the other supplies, such as extra medical stuff, etc were never given
back. And she did pay the adoption fee (which she never argued about since
she agreed it was fair).

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"MauiJNP" wrote:


As for the supplies, what happening is the rescue ended up giving her a
crate for the dog but it was an old junky one instead of her new fancy one.
And the other supplies, such as extra medical stuff, etc were never given
back. And she did pay the adoption fee (which she never argued about since
she agreed it was fair).

I would have made her fill out an adoption application, which
undoubtedly would have been turned down, since she had surrendered a
dog. I guess it would really come down to a gut feeling about the
person and what was really going on.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

"MauiJNP" wrote in message
...
Heard about this situation at work and was wondering what others would
think
about it...........

Someone gives up a dog to a rescue and the dog is placed in a foster home
for 2 months. When they give up the dog, they also give the crate, toys,
dishes, 6 months of medical supplies (frontline, heartworm, etc), with the
stipulation that whoever adopts the dog would get all the stuff too. The
person stays in contact with the foster home so they can make sure the dog
is fine and see if it got adopted. The person decides after 2 months that
they can't be without the dog any longer and need to get it back. The
rescue wants to make them pay an adoption fee and doesn't want to give the
person back all the supplies that came with the dog. The person wants her
supplies but agrees to pay the fee (basically considering it a "boarding"
fee but also because she just really wants her dog back).

What seems like the best or most common way to handle/resolve this?

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The Rescue should not have to return anything to the person. Personally, I
would not even return the dog to this person either. Rescue is not about
making a profit, but in finding a dog a good stable home. The Rescue
people, that I know, do it for the love of the breed or love of dogs in
general. The person had to wait two months to think over and decide if he or
she really wanted this dog back again?. Rescue people are looking to place
dogs in their forever homes; not to be passed around or returned to them,
If the person brought the dog to a dog shelter; I would say that is a little
different, and I would allow them to adopt the dog for the usual fee, but
again no supplies. But, in this case you state it was a Rescue where they
brought the dog, so I would not return the dog or the supplies to this
person.

On Sat, 26 May 2007 21:36:10 -0400, "MauiJNP" wrote:

Heard about this situation at work and was wondering what others would think
about it...........

Someone gives up a dog to a rescue and the dog is placed in a foster home
for 2 months. When they give up the dog, they also give the crate, toys,
dishes, 6 months of medical supplies (frontline, heartworm, etc), with the
stipulation that whoever adopts the dog would get all the stuff too. The
person stays in contact with the foster home so they can make sure the dog
is fine and see if it got adopted. The person decides after 2 months that
they can't be without the dog any longer and need to get it back. The
rescue wants to make them pay an adoption fee and doesn't want to give the
person back all the supplies that came with the dog. The person wants her
supplies but agrees to pay the fee (basically considering it a "boarding"
fee but also because she just really wants her dog back).

What seems like the best or most common way to handle/resolve this?

With most rescue groups, the owner would have signed a surrender
agreement. She would not have had the option to stay in contact with
the foster home, and if she wanted the dog back she'd have had to
adopt it like anyone else - - application, fee and all. My group
usually doesn't use a form because most of the dogs we get are from
the track. We've had some owner surrenders of dogs that were not
placed by us, and I make clear at the outset that by surrendering the
dog, the owner relinquishes all rights including the right to know
what happens to the dog. This is also true when people return dogs
adopted from us. Supplies/equipment accompanying a dog are used
according to the group's discretion and needs. I might make an
exception if a dog were returned or surrendered to us for a really,
really good reason, but not surprisingly, that's never happened.

Mustang Sally

"sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message
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We've had some owner surrenders of dogs that were not
placed by us, and I make clear at the outset that by surrendering the
dog, the owner relinquishes all rights including the right to know
what happens to the dog.

Huh. The schnauzer rescue that covers our area offers followup information
to the surrendering party if they want it. I doubt that includes the dog's
new location - and since it covers several states, they'd never track it
down on their own. They can be sent pictures of the dog in his new home and
even an annual newsletter-type of report if they want.

I think what that does is convince people who are giving up their dogs for
reasons beyond their control to believe that the dog IS going to find a
wonderful new home.

But then, the rescue isn't overwhelmed with dogs.

Judy

"Judy" wrote in message
...
"sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message
...
We've had some owner surrenders of dogs that were not
placed by us, and I make clear at the outset that by surrendering the
dog, the owner relinquishes all rights including the right to know
what happens to the dog.

Huh. The schnauzer rescue that covers our area offers followup
information to the surrendering party if they want it. I doubt that
includes the dog's new location - and since it covers several states,
they'd never track it down on their own. They can be sent pictures of
the dog in his new home and even an annual newsletter-type of report if
they want.

I think what that does is convince people who are giving up their dogs
for reasons beyond their control to believe that the dog IS going to find
a wonderful new home.

But then, the rescue isn't overwhelmed with dogs.

Judy

This might be a good source of revenue for a shelter, to offer such
pictures and reports in return for a decent ongoing donation. When someone
willingly takes their dog to a shelter for rehoming, they probably really
care about the dog. Circumstances may have changed where they can no longer
care for it, and they really would like to see their pet in a new, happy
place, and wouldn't mind paying for that service.

Paul and Muttley

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"Paul E. Schoen" wrote:



This might be a good source of revenue for a shelter, to offer such
pictures and reports in return for a decent ongoing donation. When someone
willingly takes their dog to a shelter for rehoming, they probably really
care about the dog. Circumstances may have changed where they can no longer
care for it, and they really would like to see their pet in a new, happy
place, and wouldn't mind paying for that service.


Since shelters are for specific areas, I think it would be a very bad
idea. Taking a pet to a shelter for "rehoming" is a crap shoot, and
nobody who truly cares about their animal decides to place their pet
this way. There are many avenues for rehoming on one's own, but the
fact is that most people who want to get rid of their pet are too lazy
and uncaring to do that.

Breed rescue surrender is a much better shot, if the dog is a purebred.
If the dog is accepted by a rescue, the dog will be placed. Not so with
the vast majority of shelters, although that is changing in little steps.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com