There was a pretty horrid attack on a woman in Baltimore the other day.
From reading the articles, she doesn't seem like the most stable person,
but that doesn't mean that she deserved to be mauled by 2 dogs. The
reports say that the dogs first ran up to her and ripped her colostomy
bag off of her. I'm wondering if that wasn't just the main attraction.
Apparently they didn't attack further until she wielded a screwdriver
that she pulled from her purse.

Now, the young man breeding pitbulls in Baltimore City doesn't sound
like a real gem, and the dogs were kept in the yard with the exception
of the one bitch with puppies. Dogs kept in city yards are probably the
most frequent biters. If she antagonized them in the past, as the
reports state, that could be an exclusion for their actions (although
police shot and killed one of the dogs during the attack), but what do
people think they are raising when they continue to house dogs in such a
vulnerable manner?

Anyway - does anyone have any thoughts on the colostomy bag as an issue?

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Janet Boss wrote:

Anyway - does anyone have any thoughts on the colostomy bag as an issue?


I can understand dogs approaching the woman with the bag to smell it. I
can't imagine anything about it would incite them to atack. Think about
it, every one of us has a dog that likes to sniff at ****, but I dare
say none of us has noticed that the habit makes our dogs vicious.


My guess is that the order of events went something like this:
Unstable, badly trained and badly treated dogs went up to the woman to
smell something that, to them, was appealing.
The unstable woman reacted in a weird manner.
The unstable dogs then attacked.


I'd say the colostomy bag was equivalent to someone walking down the
street carrying a particularly appealing juicy raw steak in their
grocery bag.


(Also note: Colostomy bags don't have to be gross. The people who have
them know that the surgery that made one necessary saved their lives.
They are changed regularly and with as much trouble as any of us takes
to use the bathroom. Then hands are washed afterwards. Most of the
time, the bag is empty or has only a little in it. When it starts to
get full, the person stops in a restroom to change it, then washes hands
like the rest of us. From my perspective now, needing a colostomy bag
would be horrible, but for the people who have them, they're no big deal.)


--Lia

"diddy" wrote in message
...
I took care of a woman with a colostomy bag. It was horrid for her. I
would rather die than have one. NO WAY!
And finding a nursing home that would do colostomy bags was something
else.
When she was placed in a nursing home after breaking her leg (post
surgical
care) they never changed her colostomy bag.


Poor woman ! Thought things like that only happened in the UK.
That was good of you to take her home until you found her another place .
Alison

in thread : "Alison"
whittled the following words:

"diddy" wrote in message
...
I took care of a woman with a colostomy bag. It was horrid for her.
I
would rather die than have one. NO WAY!
And finding a nursing home that would do colostomy bags was something
else.
When she was placed in a nursing home after breaking her leg (post
surgical
care) they never changed her colostomy bag.


Poor woman ! Thought things like that only happened in the UK.
That was good of you to take her home until you found her another
place .
Alison





Well it was easier to have her home, and know it was taken care of. I
complained to the nursing home and the patients advocay, but nothing was
ever done. Her medicines were never ordered, or right, and I had to go to
the pharmacy to get them to see that she got them. I demanded she be
released to a new facility, and the nursing home said that the doctor had
to sign a release. He was away on a 4 day holiday!
So I told her where to meet me, and she rolled out the door and I picked
her up outside, and we made the great escape.
The sad thing is, the nursing home called me TWO DAYS LATER to inform me
that she was missing. I was sitting there in the living room playing Euchre
with her, when they called. I had no idea she was missing!
She and I got a big giggle out of that. In the mean time, I had found a
facility that would accomodate her and provide necessary rehab therapy.
Once the doctor was back from vacation, and could sign the papers, I
dropped her (and wheelchair) off down the block, and she rolled back into
the old nursing home. She was clean, her ostomy bag was changed and she was
in much better shape than she would have been there. I HAD to return her,
because we needed a doctor prescription.
So they grilled her about where she had been. And she told them she didn't
know. IF she knew, she wouldn't have been LOST, now would she? They
contacted me, and let me know she had been "found"
I was infuriated that they had lost her, and I demanded that she be moved
IMMEDIATELY to the other facility.
Frankly, They didn't seem to mind that she wasn't taken care of there, but
once they lost her, this made serious impact on their reports on their
incidents to the state. They were glad to get rid of the troublemaker. She
wasn't a trouble maker at all. They just hated working with ostomy bags,
and the workers there preferred to neglect her rather than address the
situation.

Alison wrote:
"diddy" wrote in message
...
I took care of a woman with a colostomy bag. It was horrid for her. I
would rather die than have one. NO WAY!
And finding a nursing home that would do colostomy bags was something
else.
When she was placed in a nursing home after breaking her leg (post
surgical
care) they never changed her colostomy bag.

Poor woman ! Thought things like that only happened in the UK.

Sad to say, nursing home hell-holes are not that uncommon in the
US. Nursing homes are "regulated" by the states, but many of the
state regulating agencies are underfunded and understaffed, or
incompetent or corrupt, just like the low-end of the nursing homes.

That was good of you to take her home until you found her another place .

Yes indeed!

FurPaw
--
The Bush legacy - no child left a dime.

To reply, unleash the dog.

I agree with what Lia had to say. The bottom line is that the owner
of the dog's is to blame all the way. I cannot imagine them running at
large. I know it happens all the time.
I am just asking, posing a question, could the colostomy bag be
confused with death and dying?
It must be the season...there was the jogger who was packing a pistol
and just shot a Pit Bull that was at large but apparently not
aggressive. No charges were filed against the jogger or the owner.
Here in Fl there have been a rash of dog bites of late. Pit Bulls of
course.
I would like to see irresponsible dog owner's shot!


Be Free.....Judy

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:33:16 -0400, (Judith
Althouse) wrote:

I agree with what Lia had to say. The bottom line is that the owner
of the dog's is to blame all the way...

I would like to see irresponsible dog owner's shot!

Be Free.....Judy

Gosh, Judy; some folks might consider that a might extreme! It seems
like justice, to me. :-)



________________________
Whatever it takes.

in rec.pets.dogs.behavior, (Judith Althouse) wrote
in :

I would like to see irresponsible dog owner's shot!

Irresponsible is very much a subjective thing. Who decides what is
irresponsible and what is not? What is irresponsible in my household may
not be in yours. Do you get to shoot me? What if I see you doing something
irresponsible first, do I get to shoot you?

--
Marcel Beaudoin and Moogli

Michael,
It was extreme to say that I would like to see irresponsible dog
owner's shot. However, thank you for understanding the big picture and
grasping my comment.
I should have been more specific and itemized in gruesome detail what
I consider worthy of shooting.
You apparently managed to pick up on the fact I wasn't speaking of
someone who let Fluffy get out of the fence.


Be Free.....Judy

Matt,
I am sorry you choose to exclude me from your list of posts that you
read.
I don't think you pay that much attention to what I write anyway or
you would understand what I meant without me having to go into detail.
I have nothing to recant.


Be Free.....Judy