On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:47:52 -0500, diddy
wrote:

in thread . 97.142: Lynne
whittled the following words:

This is like watching a train wreck with a stadium full of cheering
onlookers.

This is like watching a train wreck with a stadium full of JEERING
onlookers.

Whatever it is, we want more!

We want more!

We want more!

We want more!

We want more!

We want more!

We want more!

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Don't mess with old farts (especially if they've ever worn the Eagle, Globe & Anchor)!
Part One:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286847,00.html
Part Two:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...home-headlines

Free condoms for Mexico!
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=062807C

Immigration bill goes down in flames! Yip-ee-i-oh, yip-ee-i-ay!

Freakin' arrogant putas. spit

"Cloture Passes and I Re-assess My Patriotism"
http://shotsacrossthebow.com/archives/002724.html

Control-freaks from the "reality-based" community are at it again!
http://www.examiner.com/a-801194%7EG...alk_radio.html

Way to go, Vikings!
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/20...e-denmark.html

United States 2, Mexico 1
Too bad, muchachas putierrez! Better luck next time, putas!
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/sp...&oref=sl ogin

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:45:44 -0500, diddy
wrote:

[...]
We want more!


sigh

Are you kidding?

It's certainly better entertainment than, say, shelling out $30
(including popcorn, soda pop, chocolate covered raisins) to watch
Keanu Reeves go "Whoa, dude."

And a lot funnier, too.

I don't know about you, but I'm already looking forward to the sequel,
Muttley Training Lesson #1B!

Heh.

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Don't mess with old farts (especially if they've ever worn the Eagle, Globe & Anchor)!
Part One:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286847,00.html
Part Two:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...home-headlines

Free condoms for Mexico!
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=062807C

Immigration bill goes down in flames! Yip-ee-i-oh, yip-ee-i-ay!

Freakin' arrogant putas. spit

"Cloture Passes and I Re-assess My Patriotism"
http://shotsacrossthebow.com/archives/002724.html

Control-freaks from the "reality-based" community are at it again!
http://www.examiner.com/a-801194%7EG...alk_radio.html

Way to go, Vikings!
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/20...e-denmark.html

United States 2, Mexico 1
Too bad, muchachas putierrez! Better luck next time, putas!
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/sp...&oref=sl ogin

On 30 Jun 2007 10:54:32 -0400, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article 42,
Lynne wrote:
This is like watching a train wreck with a stadium full of cheering
onlookers.

One of the very first "look and feel" lawsuits was over
staged train crashes in the 19th century. Someone thought
somebody else's wrecks-for-show was too much like his own
wrecks-for-show and took the other guy to court.

Ob-rpdb: staged trainwrecks for show

Heh. In this case, whether the onlookers cheer, jeer, offer helpful
advice and support, or keep silent will have little to do with the
ultimate outcome, IMO.

Mustang Sally

In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
Heh. In this case, whether the onlookers cheer, jeer, offer helpful
advice and support, or keep silent will have little to do with the
ultimate outcome, IMO.

I think this would make a *great* training video or
whatever, along the lines of "what's wrong with this
picture?" Most focus on what to do, but I don't think that
people really have a great handle on what not to do and how
screwing up the training screws up the dog. I'm really
interested in the consequences of failure and in designing
stuff that recovers nicely when things go wrong, and while
you see that touched upon in passing in the training
literature I don't think I've ever seen a systematic
treatment of bad training. I could be wrong - post a
pointer!

The other day someone reminded me of a great quote that
seems to apply to the Paul situation:

"Hubris always wins in the end. The Greeks taught us
that" -- Homer Simpson

although it's incomplete, since it fails to account for his
whole lookatmelookatmelookatme schtick.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On 30 Jun 2007 13:10:44 -0400, (Melinda Shore) wrote:


I think this would make a *great* training video or
whatever, along the lines of "what's wrong with this
picture?" Most focus on what to do, but I don't think that
people really have a great handle on what not to do and how
screwing up the training screws up the dog. I'm really
interested in the consequences of failure and in designing
stuff that recovers nicely when things go wrong, and while
you see that touched upon in passing in the training
literature I don't think I've ever seen a systematic
treatment of bad training. I could be wrong - post a
pointer!

That's a very interesting idea. I'd think Paul would be happy to
videotape his training sessions. There would seem to be no downside
to him, since if his efforts are not successful it won't be his fault.
But Paul aside, I think you're right that most people have no idea how
screwing up training screws up the dog. I wish there were an easy way
to show people how they train dogs unintentionally, and how they are
usually responsible for their dogs' bad habits.

Mustang Sally

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 11:53:09 -0500, diddy
wrote:

in thread : Handsome Jack
Morrison whittled the following words:

It's certainly better entertainment than, say, shelling out $30
(including popcorn, soda pop, chocolate covered raisins) to watch
Keanu Reeves go "Whoa, dude."


-Unless it's on TV and nothing interesting on opposing channels , I'm not
doing anything of the above

What could be more interesting than having a ringside seat (that you
don't even have to pay for!) to an epic struggle between such evenly
matched doofuses???

boggle

It's like being ringside at a UFC cage match between Rosie O'Donnell
and Roseanne Barr, or between Michael Moore and Al Gore!

And who wouldn't want to watch that???

I know *I* would.

Heck, all we need now is a ring girl!
http://www.ifl.tv/Ring-Girls.html

Yee-hah!

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Don't mess with old farts (especially if they've ever worn the Eagle, Globe & Anchor)!
Part One:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286847,00.html
Part Two:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...home-headlines

Free condoms for Mexico!
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=062807C

Immigration bill goes down in flames! Yip-ee-i-oh, yip-ee-i-ay!

Freakin' arrogant putas. spit

"Cloture Passes and I Re-assess My Patriotism"
http://shotsacrossthebow.com/archives/002724.html

Control-freaks from the "reality-based" community are at it again!
http://www.examiner.com/a-801194%7EG...alk_radio.html

Way to go, Vikings!
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/20...e-denmark.html

United States 2, Mexico 1
Too bad, muchachas putierrez! Better luck next time, putas!
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/sp...&oref=sl ogin

On Jun 30, 12:59 pm, sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On 30 Jun 2007 10:54:32 -0400, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article 42,
Lynne wrote:
This is like watching a train wreck with a stadium full of cheering
onlookers.

One of the very first "look and feel" lawsuits was over
staged train crashes in the 19th century. Someone thought
somebody else's wrecks-for-show was too much like his own
wrecks-for-show and took the other guy to court.

Ob-rpdb: staged trainwrecks for show

Heh. In this case, whether the onlookers cheer, jeer, offer helpful
advice and support, or keep silent will have little to do with the
ultimate outcome, IMO.

Mustang Sally

Yes it will. If you offer helpful advice or support, it will be your
fault when the predetermined outcome occurs. At least according to
some.

Nick

Sandy in OK wrote in
oups.com:

On Jun 29, 5:26?pm, "Paul E. Schoen" wrote:
Actually, I might be willing to take this experiment one step
further. I would propose that Jerry and I post half the cost of my
airfare to visit him in Florida with Muttley. If he can obtain the
results he claims, I foot the bill, and I have a trained dog. If not,
he foots the bill, and can no longer claim his absolute success
guarantee. In any case, Muttley and I will get a vacation to sunny
Florida. Paul and Muttley

OMG. This is great entertainment. I'm not a big fen of Da Boss but
Goddess help anyone who tries to help this fool.



What a fascinating turn of events since I'cve been gone.

Who was it taking us all to task for not wiping this guy's ass after a
*year* of his crap?

How quickly some will turn and eat their own young :-)

Tara

In article 6,
Tara wrote:
What a fascinating turn of events since I'cve been gone.

Hey! Let me guess - you took that mushing outing,
immediately got hooked, and sold everything you own to move
to a cabin in northern NH where you're now living with 30
dogs and without indoor plumbing. But you finally got
wireless broadband!!

Am I right?
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

(Melinda Shore) wrote in news:f97pth$llc$1
@panix2.panix.com:

In article 6,
Tara wrote:
What a fascinating turn of events since I'cve been gone.

Hey! Let me guess - you took that mushing outing,
immediately got hooked, and sold everything you own to move
to a cabin in northern NH where you're now living with 30
dogs and without indoor plumbing. But you finally got
wireless broadband!!

Am I right?

Keeerist. I wish :-)

Long story. Some of it involved being bored by usenet. heh.

I checked out the group because I was looking for a thread I remembered a
while ago involving some really sick dogs who ate grass (or mushrroms in
grass, or toxins oin grass....or something) since somneone on another forum
just brought up that her dog got realy sick after eating grass.

never found THAT thread, by the way. But dayum....this place has been kooky
:-)

Tara