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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGTs8Uz7V5o
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Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

on Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:21:56 GMT, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGTs8Uz7V5o

I'm glad the dog was okay (the rider, too). It'll probably be the only
memorable thing about the tour this year.

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Lynne

In article 42,
Lynne wrote:
I'm glad the dog was okay (the rider, too). It'll probably be the only
memorable thing about the tour this year.

All the disqualifications, investigations, retirements, and
whatnot because of doping have been pretty remarkable.

It was pretty amazing the way that wheel came apart.
Dumbass dog owner.
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On 18 Jul 2007 21:45:30 -0400, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

[...]
It was pretty amazing the way that wheel came apart.

And how it barely fazed the Lab.

Man, talk about rugged.

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Go ahead. I dare you not to laugh!
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USMC Commandant speech on the Long War
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White House LOST at Sea
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on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:45:30 GMT, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

All the disqualifications, investigations, retirements, and
whatnot because of doping have been pretty remarkable.

The doping stuff is not surpising to anyone, though (or it shouldn't be).

It was pretty amazing the way that wheel came apart.
Dumbass dog owner.

Agree on both points.


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Lynne

In article 42,
Lynne wrote:
The doping stuff is not surpising to anyone, though (or it shouldn't be).

The enforcement is new. A lot of cyclists and cycling fans
are being pretty casual about doping but I really don't like
it. I agree that it can't turn a so-so athlete into someone
who can finish the Tour de France, but the differences come
down to seconds over a period of three weeks, not to mention
the young, otherwise healthy people dropping from heart
attacks and whatnot.

This is also a big problem in nordic skiing, and there was a
big scandal involving the Austrian team at the last
Olympics. A few years ago the entire Finnish team was
disqualified at the world championships.

Agree on both points.

Someone on one of the mushing lists posted a request for
help, trying to find out what recourse was available to her
after one of her dogs was labelled "dangerous" by the local
animal control people. It had escaped and killed a
neighbor's cat. In the course of the discussions it turns
out that her dogs have escaped before and killed cats
before, that she's got tie-outs but no fencing, and her
husband doesn't want her to have dogs in the first place and
so isn't willing to spend the money to keep them properly
contained. So, she's got a yard full of sleddogs, several
of which are at risk of being euthanized if she doesn't pay
a fine or get them out of the yard, and pretty much all of
which now need homes. I really don't know how some people
go about making decisions, including that idiot who decided
to let his dog wander into the road when the peloton came
through on the downhill of a huge climb.
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On Jul 18, 9:45 pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
In article 42,

Lynne wrote:
I'm glad the dog was okay (the rider, too). It'll probably be the only
memorable thing about the tour this year.

All the disqualifications, investigations, retirements, and
whatnot because of doping have been pretty remarkable.

It was pretty amazing the way that wheel came apart.
Dumbass dog owner.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

Racing bikes and their wheels are built as light as possible, that is
why the bikes used in Tour de France are a bad idea for everyday
rides. When designing a bike for a race they will shave off grams
everywhere possible. If I were to buy a set of wheels like that and
put them on my touring bike I would be replacing them very quickly
just from hitting the joints in Michigan's horribly paved roads. The
lightness of the wheel is probably why the dog is alright.

Nick

"
wrote in
oups.com:

The
lightness of the wheel is probably why the dog is alright.

Physics 101: The fact that the wheel crumpled meant that it absorbed
the force of the impact, not the dog.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

In article .com,
wrote:
Racing bikes and their wheels are built as light as possible,

No! Really?

that is
why the bikes used in Tour de France are a bad idea for everyday
rides.

Actually, the reasons why those bikes aren't a good idea for
everyday use include 1) they cost more than a lot of cars,
and 2) they put the rider in a more aggressive position than
most people are comfortable with. The sad fact is that a
lot of people can't bend that much at the waist without
compressing an unsustainably uncomfortable amount of fat.
And not a lot of those who can have the core strength to
ride like that for sustained periods.

Modern carbon fiber is extremely strong. It'll also give
you a cushier ride than some of the alternatives, and if
those joints on Michigan's horribly-paved roads are
uncomfortable with you you might consider going to carbon
fiber. (Do you really think that anybody's going to be
riding fragile equipment in the Tour de France?) What do
you ride?
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Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:11:03 GMT, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

The enforcement is new. A lot of cyclists and cycling fans
are being pretty casual about doping but I really don't like
it. I agree that it can't turn a so-so athlete into someone
who can finish the Tour de France, but the differences come
down to seconds over a period of three weeks, not to mention
the young, otherwise healthy people dropping from heart
attacks and whatnot.

I'm not sure if cycling fans are really casual about doping so much as they
are just not surprised by it anymore. I think people recognize that it's a
huge problem and not a shocking rarity. My friends and I are all pleased
that the rules are finally being enforced. The problem is that new drugs
will continually be developed that will be undetectable until proper tests
are developed, so I don't see doping going away anytime soon.

IMO, the only time it's a tragedy when someone drops dead from abusing
enhancement drugs is when it's a child/teen/young adult who is under the
influence of an adult who knows better. Anyone who knows the risks, takes
them anyway and keels over gets zero sympathy from me. If a sport
'requires' doping for an athlete to be competitive (because "everyone else
is doing it"), that athlete still has a choice not to dope. Get the hell
out of the sport if they must. That's not an acceptible level of risk to
me.

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Lynne