"Kelly Neville" wrote in message:

At 9:00 he is
let out to go

Is he let out or are you taking him out, on-leash, to his potty spot? Do
you use a cue word to let him know what he is expected to do (like 'Go
Potty' or 'Go Pee'), and do you tell him when he's done good ('Good Pee!')
and praise/treat?

If he didn't go during one of his outings he would be put back in his
crate
and let out on the hour every hour until he went.

So, at what point is he messing? While he has free reign for 2 hours?
Personally, I would give an unhousebroken dog NO free reign at all. The dog
will always be tethered, confined or under direct adult supervision.

Suja

On Jul 23, 2:26 pm, "Suja" wrote:
"Kelly Neville" wrote in message:
At 9:00 he is
let out to go

Is he let out or are you taking him out, on-leash, to his potty spot? Do
you use a cue word to let him know what he is expected to do (like 'Go
Potty' or 'Go Pee'), and do you tell him when he's done good ('Good Pee!')
and praise/treat?



If he didn't go during one of his outings he would be put back in his
crate
and let out on the hour every hour until he went.

So, at what point is he messing? While he has free reign for 2 hours?
Personally, I would give an unhousebroken dog NO free reign at all. The dog
will always be tethered, confined or under direct adult supervision.

Suja
He has a doggy door and was housebroken when we got him and remained
that way for 8 months or more only recently he pottied in the house

Shayla wrote:

He has a doggy door and was housebroken when we got him and remained
that way for 8 months or more only recently he pottied in the house

Have you taken him to a vet? He could very well have an infection
that is causing him to go in the house.

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Shelly said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Have you taken him to a vet? He could very well have an
infection that is causing him to go in the house.

FWIW, that's the second question I asked her late Sunday and
never got an answer, although she responded to other parts of my
post.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Rocky wrote:

FWIW, that's the second question I asked her late Sunday and
never got an answer, although she responded to other parts of my
post.

Wait! Is Shayla the same person as Kelly? I'm so confused.

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Shelly said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Wait! Is Shayla the same person as Kelly? I'm so confused.

I had to reconstruct the thread to see what I'd already read.
This is Kelly's thread, though Shayla segued in seamlessly by
responding to Suja's question of Kelly as if it was addressed to
her.

They're not the same person, but I now have a headache.

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--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Rocky wrote:

I had to reconstruct the thread to see what I'd already read.
This is Kelly's thread, though Shayla segued in seamlessly by
responding to Suja's question of Kelly as if it was addressed to
her.

That's where I got confused. I was paying attention to the author,
not the thread.

They're not the same person, but I now have a headache.

Glad to share my confusion! My work here is done, I think.

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Hi Kelly,
I've been following this thread with interest, so I'll add my two-pence
worth. First of all, I hve two Bichons (3-years old and nine months old) and
my friend (with whom I walk my dogs) coincidentally has a nine-month old
bichon/cavalier cross - just so you know where I'm coming from. I've also
had dogs of various breeds/mixtures all my life.
Bichons are often hard to house train but crate training has worked for me
(and my friend), as well as other people I know with Bichons. First things
first... the crate must never be seen by your young dog as a punishment, but
as a refuge - somewhere he/she has his own space. It must never have bedding
that has been soiled - if your dog wees or poos in there then you should
change the bedding. Apart from the obvious needs of nature, dogs will
poo/wee (a) to mark their territory and/or (b) to get attention. They can
also sometimes wee/poo inside if they are stressed. I personally believe
that (especially) young dogs should not simply be patted with a "good-boy"
if they do something right - but should be given a treat - I try to carry
cut-up morsels of chew-bars with me. Young dogs have a short attention span
(espcially bichons and cavaliers), so the treat should be given
*immediately* the dog does a poo or a wee outside. It's no good waiting to
reward until you happen to notice that they have weed/pood. Dogs (of all
ages) will usually wee/poo during exercise, so excercising or playing with
your dog at potty time should trigger results. It's worth mentioning that if
you feed your dog canned meat, it will usually "pass-through" in four to
five hours after eating, while if you're feeding your dog dried food it
takes about 14 hours to pass through; this is because of the nature of the
dog's digestive enzymes. So this is something to be considered in feeding
times. Another thing I'd mention is that your dog must never be given the
impression that his crate is a punishment, so if he does have an accident,
please do curb any inclination to push him into his crate. The last thing
I'd mention is that it doesn't help in house-training if food is left out
after feed time(s); a continuous eating regime means an unpredictible
poo-time.
I hope this all helps.

Regards.....

On Jul 23, 3:49 am, Shelly wrote:
I've had dogs who never
learned to ask out, and others that did. All were absolutely
reliably house trained.

Shelly, what do you do with a dog that never learns to "ask out"? Do
you just always take them out every few hours?

Amy

wrote:
On Jul 23, 3:49 am, Shelly wrote:
I've had dogs who never
learned to ask out, and others that did. All were absolutely
reliably house trained.

Shelly, what do you do with a dog that never learns to "ask out"? Do
you just always take them out every few hours?

That was Mr. Cast Iron Bladder. Yes, we had a basic schedule. It
didn't matter, though, how long he had to wait, he wouldn't have an
accident. He was absolutely bomb proof.

When I got Harriet, she wasn't housebroken, but quickly caught on to
how to ask to go outside. On a couple of occasions, I caught
Elliott (of the cast iron bladder) nosing Harriet, who then came to
me to ask outside. It made me laugh that he would tell her to ask
me to take them outside. He was a deeply funny dog, so maybe it was
his idea of a joke.

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