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Old July 23rd 07, 03:36 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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I have a problem. My daughter Delayna is four and is our only child.
Last year she wanted a dog and we went to the humane society and got
her a 1 year old Bassett hound. The doggy is a bad boy. He jumps up
and knocks her over. She has gotten to the point that she doesn't
really like to play with him because he plays much too rough. I took
him to obedience classes but with both of us working, he learned very
little. Even the teacher said, he will probably only learn one thing,
I think he frustrated her too. He has recently taken up going pee in
the house- that's new. We can not let him in any rooms except the
ones we dog proofed because he constantly chews. I have told my
daughter maybe the doggy would be better living with a family that had
more time and she got mad. I don't feel it is fair to the dog that I
have to lock him up all the time but he just plays too rough, Of
course I have my sanity to think of but also the health and happiness
of my dog too and I do not want my daughter to hate me. I want to
give him away and I have a way to do that but how to keep her from
hating me. Am I asking to have my cake and eat it too? She wont
notice for days if I send him away because she rarely goes near him.
Any advice? I am trying not to lie but a white lie will work.

Shayla G

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Old July 23rd 07, 03:46 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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In article . com,
Shayla wrote:

I have a problem. My daughter Delayna is four and is our only child.
Last year she wanted a dog and we went to the humane society and got
her a 1 year old Bassett hound. The doggy is a bad boy.


what made you choose a Bassett Hound? What qualities were you looking
for? What level of ownership does a 4 year old have?


He jumps up
and knocks her over. She has gotten to the point that she doesn't
really like to play with him because he plays much too rough.


HOW does she play with him and are you supervising every second? What
are you doing about it?

I took
him to obedience classes but with both of us working, he learned very
little.


????? Obedience training is a fairly small time commitment when you
work it in to daily life. Have you continued training at home?


He has recently taken up going pee in
the house- that's new. We can not let him in any rooms except the
ones we dog proofed because he constantly chews.


What are you DOING about it? Supervision? Teaching him what's off
limits? Housebreaking him?

I have told my
daughter maybe the doggy would be better living with a family that had
more time and she got mad. I don't feel it is fair to the dog that I
have to lock him up all the time but he just plays too rough, Of
course I have my sanity to think of but also the health and happiness
of my dog too and I do not want my daughter to hate me. I want to
give him away and I have a way to do that but how to keep her from
hating me. Am I asking to have my cake and eat it too? She wont
notice for days if I send him away because she rarely goes near him.
Any advice? I am trying not to lie but a white lie will work.


You're the grown up. Make a grown up decision. You don't have time for
a dog and getting one because a toddler wants one just doesn't make
sense. Place him with Bassett rescue and don't get another dog until
your daughter is MUCH older and can take part in the training and care
of the dog, if then.

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Old July 23rd 07, 04:09 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:36:46 -0000, Shayla
wrote:

I have a problem. My daughter Delayna is four and is our only child.
Last year she wanted a dog and we went to the humane society and got
her a 1 year old Bassett hound. The doggy is a bad boy. He jumps up
and knocks her over. She has gotten to the point that she doesn't
really like to play with him because he plays much too rough. I took
him to obedience classes but with both of us working, he learned very
little. Even the teacher said, he will probably only learn one thing,
I think he frustrated her too. He has recently taken up going pee in
the house- that's new. We can not let him in any rooms except the
ones we dog proofed because he constantly chews. I have told my
daughter maybe the doggy would be better living with a family that had
more time and she got mad. I don't feel it is fair to the dog that I
have to lock him up all the time but he just plays too rough, Of
course I have my sanity to think of but also the health and happiness
of my dog too and I do not want my daughter to hate me. I want to
give him away and I have a way to do that but how to keep her from
hating me. Am I asking to have my cake and eat it too? She wont
notice for days if I send him away because she rarely goes near him.
Any advice? I am trying not to lie but a white lie will work.


Either go with what you told your daughter, "the doggy would be better
living with a family that had more time," and just let your daughter
get "mad" at you.

Or get with the program, your daughter included, and make a total
*commitment* to properly TRAIN your dog.

You've made a commitment to raise your child properly, right?

The same should go for your dog.

Kids get "mad" at their parents all the time. It's part of being a
kid. But they get over it, and pretty quickly, too, unless they're
known as the Menendez brothers.

Heh.

Part of the job of being a good parent is knowing when to say no, and
knowing when to cut bait.

You don't really sound like you're in a position to make that total
commitment yet, so option one is probably your best bet.

But good luck with whatever decision you do make!

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Old July 23rd 07, 04:11 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Shayla wrote:
I want to
give him away and I have a way to do that but how to keep her from
hating me. Am I asking to have my cake and eat it too? She wont
notice for days if I send him away because she rarely goes near him.
Any advice? I am trying not to lie but a white lie will work.


This isn't a parenting group, so it's unlikely that you will find
advice here on how to tell your daughter that you are dumping the
dog. And, really, you know your daughter best, so I assume you are
the best qualified person to figure out what to tell her. Better,
at least, than a bunch of total strangers.

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Old July 23rd 07, 04:43 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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diddy wrote:

But if she lies to her child, exactly what kind of parent is she?
I'd go for respect rather than friends.


I would never be in her position, for a whole lot of reasons, so I'm
not exactly qualified to tell her what she should do.

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Old July 23rd 07, 05:00 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Shayla" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have a problem. My daughter Delayna is four and is our only child.
Last year she wanted a dog and we went to the humane society and got
her a 1 year old Bassett hound. The doggy is a bad boy. He jumps up
and knocks her over. She has gotten to the point that she doesn't
really like to play with him because he plays much too rough. I took
him to obedience classes but with both of us working, he learned very
little. Even the teacher said, he will probably only learn one thing,
I think he frustrated her too. He has recently taken up going pee in
the house- that's new. We can not let him in any rooms except the
ones we dog proofed because he constantly chews. I have told my
daughter maybe the doggy would be better living with a family that had
more time and she got mad. I don't feel it is fair to the dog that I
have to lock him up all the time but he just plays too rough, Of
course I have my sanity to think of but also the health and happiness
of my dog too and I do not want my daughter to hate me. I want to
give him away and I have a way to do that but how to keep her from
hating me. Am I asking to have my cake and eat it too? She wont
notice for days if I send him away because she rarely goes near him.
Any advice? I am trying not to lie but a white lie will work.

Shayla G

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Do you exercise the dog twice a day for about 40 minutes each time? The dog
will be much better behaved and more content, if you walk the dog in the
morning, let him go out in the yard during the day and walk the dog again in
the evening for another 40 minutes. He will be out enough that he won't
have to pee in the house and will be too tired to get into trouble. Every
time he pees and poops outdoors, praise him a lot. After my dog has her
morning walk and run in the forest, she is quiet for the rest of the day.
When they don't get enough exercise, dogs tend to cause problems.
If you are unable to walk your dog or have someone else walk the dog every
day, or practice with the training on a daily basis, then I would suggest
doing a search for a Basset Hound Rescue Group on line, and ask if they will
take him; he would better off going with a group that knows and cares about
Bassets than dumping him with a place that does not. Most Rescue groups try
to insure their dogs find good homes. Unless the dog gets some exercise,
training and attention, he won't be able to calm down enough for your little
girl to accept him. It is up to you to take the time to do this for your
dog and little girl.



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Old July 23rd 07, 05:04 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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pfoley wrote:
After my dog has her
morning walk and run in the forest, she is quiet for the rest of the day.
When they don't get enough exercise, dogs tend to cause problems.


And sometimes, when they do not get enough regular exercise, they
lie around the house like lumpy potatoes.

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Old July 23rd 07, 05:07 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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In article .net,
pfoley wrote:
The dog
will be much better behaved and more content, if you walk the dog in the
morning, let him go out in the yard during the day and walk the dog again in
the evening for another 40 minutes. He will be out enough that he won't
have to pee in the house and will be too tired to get into trouble.


Um, nope.

Look, exercising the dog is always a great idea, and while
it sets up a better circumstance for training it is not the
same thing as training and is not a substitute for training.
Walking the dog will not teach the dog not to jump up on a
little girl. It will not teach the dog not to pee in the
house. And unless the person doing the walking turns the
walk into a training exercise, walking the dog will probably
not even teach the dog to pay attention to the human.

Also, as a dog becomes more fit its energy level will go up,
not down. I have never seen this fail to be the case - not
with dogs, not with horses, and not with humans. Stress and
adaptation. This is basic physiology.
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Old July 23rd 07, 05:10 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Melinda Shore wrote:

Look, exercising the dog is always a great idea, and while
it sets up a better circumstance for training it is not the
same thing as training and is not a substitute for training.
Walking the dog will not teach the dog not to jump up on a
little girl.


But Cesar said it would!

Also, as a dog becomes more fit its energy level will go up,
not down. I have never seen this fail to be the case - not
with dogs, not with horses, and not with humans. Stress and
adaptation. This is basic physiology.


To be fair, an out-of-shape dog might be worn out by a 40 minute
walk. That still doesn't address the OP's training issue, but it
might explain Teh Pfoley Phenomenon.

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Old July 23rd 07, 05:21 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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In article ,
Shelly wrote:
To be fair, an out-of-shape dog might be worn out by a 40 minute
walk.


That's a temporary situation. The dog will respond to
regular walking by becoming fitter, and its energy level
will go up. To tire it out every time you need to walk it
longer than the level to which it's adapted. That becomes a
vicious cycle, and eventually a dog will be able to walk for
longer without tiring than the human has the time or
patience for. It is *not* a long-term management strategy.

You walk the dog because it's great for the dog's health
(and yours), both physical and mental. If you're walking
the dog as a substitute for training, well, you're in for
some surprises. Or frustration. Or both.

Pfoley has posted a lot about exercise (Hail Cesar!) but I
have a hard time understanding what he's saying because it
tends to contradict both what we know about adaptations to
exercise and my experience exercising dogs. The only
explanations I can come up with for his experience are 1)
he's not exercising his dogs consistently, or 2) he's not
describing what he's actually seeing, but rather what Cesar
told him that he should be seeing.
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