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wrote in
ups.com:

I'm curious, I believe they hurt (no doubt in my mind that they hurt),
but in your opinion would herniated discs require you to go on long
term disability? I only ask because I know someone who did, and it
took her several doctors to find one that was willing to put her on
disability because of it. I tend to think she is just a wimp and
needs to get over it and stop looking for a free ride, especially
given a lot of the things she does while on disability. I would of
course like the opinion of someone else who has them, and I know from
your stories you seem like a fairly active person, so I think I have a
good idea on what your opinion on it would be, just don't want to make
any assumptions.

There are people out there who have herniated disks and don't even know
it. You have to go by how symptomatic the person is. Just seeing
herniations on a scan doesn't mean the person is disabled. They can be
working in a warehouse without complaint or they might be unable to get
out of bed in the morning. It's more the nerve impingement than the fact
that there is a herniation. This was a big topic in the personal injury
and disability law arena. There are a lot of plaintiffs and attorneys
out there who want to claim disability and big bucks for a herniation.
It's easy to find a doctor who will put you on disability if you know
where to look. The problem is that others who are disabled are put
through more hoops because of the tendency for a long time to abuse that
particular diagnosis.

Paula

In article ,
Paula wrote:
There are people out there who have herniated disks and don't even know
it.

And there are people who can barely function. It's
impossible to know how Nick's acquaintance is actually
doing, and it should probably be left at that lest we
unintentionally encourage Nick in his slightly paranoid
and substantially mean-spirited fantasies.

ObDogs: Feeding time!
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

Shelly wrote in news:f9aii9$pvv$1
@registered.motzarella.org:

Purely on symptoms, in my case (which I think is fairly common).
They *can* do scans/x-rays, though, if the diagnosis is difficult.

I'm just wondering in my case whether assuming it is DDD is a good idea.


PT, huh? I was told to take Aleve or aspirin, not lift heavy stuff,
try not to twist my spin too much, and use ice/heat as needed. No
PT, though. I'm wondering how that would help, actually.


Aleve was also recommended to me. My PT has focused on strengthening
exercises that I can do at home for the rest of my life (oh joy!). The
nice thing about getting this program from a PT is that she accepts input
-- if an exercise hurts, she modifies it or substitutes a different one.
She also checks to make sure that I'm doing the exercises correctly. The
exercises do seem to be helping, I have to say. I'll only be seeing her
for a few weeks, assuming the exercises continue to help.

However, I've fallen deeply in love with my heating pad. Truly, madly,
deeply.



--
Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Max the pomeranian
& Rosalie the calico cat

(Melinda Shore) wrote in news:f9ajf3$pu2$1
@panix2.panix.com:

In article ,
Paula wrote:
There are people out there who have herniated disks and don't even know
it.

And there are people who can barely function. It's
impossible to know how Nick's acquaintance is actually
doing, and it should probably be left at that lest we
unintentionally encourage Nick in his slightly paranoid
and substantially mean-spirited fantasies.

I hated working on cases like that because it is so difficult to tell
where the truth lies from medical records. Those kinds of claims tend to
draw a lot of private investigator with camera work. Even when you work
with that type of claim for years, you're an idiot if you assume you can
spot the level of disability without a whole lot of investigation.

ObDogs: Feeding time!

Somewhere in the world, it is always feeding time. How many dogs would
love to show solidarity with all of their brothers and sisters in far-off
lands?

Paula

On 7 Aug 2007 16:08:03 -0400, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

and it should probably be left at that lest we
unintentionally encourage Nick in his slightly paranoid
and substantially mean-spirited fantasies.

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I got it back from the shop just in time!

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reason that 'more money for public schools' is a dysfunctional mantra for education. When your current
approach is digging you into a hole, the sensible thing to do is not to dig faster. It is to stop digging."
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"Melinda Shore" wrote in message:

ObDogs: Feeding time!

Yaknow, if you had lived somewhat closer to us, the dogs would try their
darndest to get double rations.

Suja

ceb wrote in
:

I'm just wondering in my case whether assuming it is DDD is a good
idea.

You could either get a second opinion or request tests, if you think
the diagnosis might not be right.

try not to twist my spin too much

Twist my spin? I hate bad typing days.

Aleve was also recommended to me. My PT has focused on
strengthening exercises that I can do at home for the rest of my
life (oh joy!).

Joy is *so* not the word you were looking for. Just sayin'...

The exercises do seem to be helping, I have to say.

That's pretty darned awesome, actually.

However, I've fallen deeply in love with my heating pad. Truly,
madly, deeply.

Oh yes. Ice, not so much, though.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

On Aug 7, 2:33 pm, Shelly wrote:
wrote:
I would of
course like the opinion of someone else who has them, and I know from
your stories you seem like a fairly active person, so I think I have a
good idea on what your opinion on it would be, just don't want to make
any assumptions.

Pain (especially back pain as it relates to mobility) is hugely
individual, so making value judgments about your friend's mobility
level based on Diddy's pain and mobility level is kind of assholish.

--
Shellyhttp://www.cat-sidh.net(the Mother Ship)http://esther.cat-sidh.net(Letters to Esther)

Well, let me just say I have already made a value judgment on my
friend's back pain based on their mobility, and I am just curious
about if Diddy's pain would warrant permanent disability. I know how
much my friend claims it hurts, and I see how much she does, but yet
cannot work. I don't need Diddy's opinion to judge her. I'm curious
as to Diddy's experience with it, as in, if Diddy would go on
permanent disability from it. I don't doubt that a back injury can
cause severe enough pain to go on permanent disability, in my friend's
case I don't think it has even though she says it has.

Nick

"
spoke these words of wisdom
in ups.com:

On Aug 7, 12:53 pm, diddy none wrote:
Shelly spoke these words of wisdom
:

Paula wrote:
When either one of us gets up, he immediately
moves over to exactly where they were, like finding a warm spot,
and lays his head on the pillow they were using.

Harriet will do that if she's pretty sure I'm not coming back to
bed. When I'm in bed, though, she sleeps curled up next to me,
with her head resting on my side or my back.

However, there was that one time when I was sleeping on my stomach
and she curled up **on my back** and nearly killerated me.

Oh my gosh! with 7 herniated disc's I wouldn't be able to move for a
week. She might killerate me. I'm glad you survived. The pain I
imagine makes me cry.

I'm curious, I believe they hurt (no doubt in my mind that they hurt),
but in your opinion would herniated discs require you to go on long
term disability? I only ask because I know someone who did, and it
took her several doctors to find one that was willing to put her on
disability because of it. I tend to think she is just a wimp and
needs to get over it and stop looking for a free ride, especially
given a lot of the things she does while on disability. I would of
course like the opinion of someone else who has them, and I know from
your stories you seem like a fairly active person, so I think I have a
good idea on what your opinion on it would be, just don't want to make
any assumptions.

Nick


Uh, I don't work I got medically retired. I fought Workman's Comp to
berehabbed so I could work, and I fought the state of Ohio, and they
said my chances of being rehabbed were so low, and this was such a
costly endeavor that I would never make my previous wages again, and
would be putting myself, and my family in risk of economic danger by
trying to buck the system. Would I please accept social security and go
away?


And yes, IT ****ING HURTS. But sitting around ****ING hurts. It hurts
to sit, it hurts to stand, it hurts to lie down. It hurts to do any one
of these, but especially if you do any of them for a long period of
time. But you live in a state of constant hurt, and you finally learn
what you CAN do, what you can't do, and don't ever do them. If you don't
do ANYTHING for about 8 years or so, spondylosis sets in, and calcium
deposits stabilize the spine, and the pain diminishes. And you find you
can do more than you previously had done, unless you break that fragile
casing by actually doing something that you think you might get away
with, because you feel better than you used to. If you do that, you end
up writhing in bed for weeks at a time begging for Demerol and in a
really bad assed mood hoping to die.

Keeping muscle tone up is critical. You HAVE to do something. You just
can't do anything for very long. When you drive for any appreciable
distance, you stop every hour and walk a half hour. Or you won't be able
to stand up when you get there.

It's call adaption.

so call up your friend and say you are sorry.

I was in a very benevolent mood today until I read this. Now I'm pissed.
And I'm not saying any more. But there is a REASON my dogs have to be of
certain height, able to carry certain weights, retrieve is a MUST. They
work. They handle everything below the knees.

In article ,
Suja wrote:
And while we're on the topic, dad's quite adament that he won't get another
MRI done if his life depended on it - said something about how he'd rather
die. This is odd, considering that he's generally cool with all all sorts
of medical procedures, including surgery.

What about it bothers him?
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community