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Old September 26th 07, 05:01 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Default Newbie here - could use some advice

I hope I'm in the right place. I could use some help.

I have a very small dog. She's much smaller than I'm accustomed to.
She was not properly socialized, which we work on constantly. We've
been to training classes, but she completely ignores when I call her,
even in the house.

I do not let her off of her leash outside, but it's been rather
challenging to get her to respond
to the come command.

I'll take any pointers. Please.

Thanks in advance

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Old September 26th 07, 09:52 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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raticals.com wrote:
I hope I'm in the right place. I could use some help.

I have a very small dog. She's much smaller than I'm accustomed to.
She was not properly socialized, which we work on constantly. We've
been to training classes, but she completely ignores when I call her,
even in the house.

I do not let her off of her leash outside, but it's been rather
challenging to get her to respond
to the come command.

I'll take any pointers. Please.



You're in the right place.


How did they tell you to teach her to come in the training classes? I
ask because, from a logical point, one of two things is going on.
Either their method is a good one, and you're not following it properly
or consistently, OR you need a different method for your dog. To give a
sensible answer to your question, we need to know what you've been doing
and what your dog does when you do it.


Without knowing more, I can only guess that you've been making the
common beginner mistake: On the instances when your dog does come when
called, it isn't worth her while from her point of view. She doesn't
get enough praise, enough reward, enough FUN! INTERESTING! stuff going
on with you. She takes herself away from something she was enjoying,
whether that was a nap, a daydream, a squirrel, a leaf, comes to you,
and only gets a leash or a walk in another direction. Further, when she
ignores you, nothing happens, no consequence, so she blows you off.


That's only my current guess, not an acusation. Tell us more so we can
help. I'm hardly the expert on this subject, but many people here are
good at training recalls.


--Lia

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Old September 27th 07, 04:47 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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How did they tell you to teach her to come in the training classes? I
ask because, from a logical point, one of two things is going on.
Either their method is a good one, and you're not following it properly
or consistently, OR you need a different method for your dog. To give a
sensible answer to your question, we need to know what you've been doing
and what your dog does when you do it.

Without knowing more, I can only guess that you've been making the
common beginner mistake: On the instances when your dog does come when
called, it isn't worth her while from her point of view. She doesn't
get enough praise, enough reward, enough FUN! INTERESTING! stuff going
on with you. She takes herself away from something she was enjoying,
whether that was a nap, a daydream, a squirrel, a leaf, comes to you,
and only gets a leash or a walk in another direction. Further, when she
ignores you, nothing happens, no consequence, so she blows you off.

That's only my current guess, not an acusation. Tell us more so we can
help. I'm hardly the expert on this subject, but many people here are
good at training recalls.

--Lia


Thanks Lia.
I was waiting for an email notification. I'm glad I checked to see if
anyone responded.

Here's Penny's background. She came to us when she was 5 months old
and she was clearly not socialized.
So, I immediately enrolled her in classes, which helped ME as well.

We have been using the clicker-method and she's been incredibly
receptive. I managed to teach her a bevy of
different tricks, including rollover. So, I know that she's trainable
and she's also coming out of her skittish shell.

With regards to her recall, or lack there of...I was told to keep her
on a short lead to start. Lure her with her treats (which she loves),
and try to get her to come. Naturally, I click-treat-praise for every
little step she takes. I then try to use a longer leash, get no
response.

I'm also baffled that if she's in another room and we call her, using
a very happy, excited tone, as if to play...I get NO response. In
fact,
she'll lift her head up, look and turn away, as if to suggest that we
are complete idiots LOL.

I have deduced that she's not afraid of us, because if I click the
clicker, she comes running. If we work on new trick, she's eager to
play and learn, it's
just recall.

Sorry for so much info, just want to give you all enough to work
with.

Thanks so much!

Sonja

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Old September 27th 07, 04:59 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.dogs.labrador,rec.pets.dogs.breeds
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Default Newbie here - could use some advice

On Sep 26, 5:57 pm, alpha.bob© wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:25:08 -0000, "raticals.com"

wrote:
Are you KIDDING?!


You wasted my time with this spam?


I asked member of a dog group for assistance.
What I did NOT ask for was a link to your SITE!


And you wasted our time with your ****ing CROSSPOSTS.

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Hey, I'm sorry. I thought you were spamming. It's definitely gonna
take me some time to adjust to your style of writing.
It's rather unique, to say the least, but I can now see that you
actually responded and were offering suggestions.

I'm thick skinned NY'er so, if you'll accept my apology. I'd like to
call a truce and start over.

Sonja

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Old September 27th 07, 05:48 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.dogs.labrador,rec.pets.dogs.breeds
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On Sep 27, 12:30 pm, alpha.bob© wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:15:18 -0700, wrote:
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**** off.....CROSSPOSTER

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..../´¯/'...'/´¯¯.`·¸
./'/.../..../.....:^.¨¯\
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Sensitive, aren't we? I hope you don't talk to your dogs that way when
the wet the floor. LOL

Have a great day!!
Sonja

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Old September 28th 07, 08:17 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.dogs.labrador,rec.pets.dogs.breeds
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:25:08 -0000, raticals.com wrote:
On Sep 26, 3:17 pm,
"Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Resea "
Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Rese
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HOWEDY raticals.com,



Please do not encourage this psychotic. Killfile him like everyone else
has.

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Old October 8th 07, 03:51 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.dogs.labrador,alt.pets.dogs.pitbull,rec.pets.dogs.breeds
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Are you KIDDING?!

You wasted my time with this spam?

I asked member of a dog group for assistance.
What I did NOT ask for was a link to your SITE!

So you reply to it in full with all his bullshit so that the ones who are
smart enough to block him have to read all his crap??????


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Old October 9th 07, 07:44 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.dogs.labrador,alt.pets.dogs.pitbull,rec.pets.dogs.breeds
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On Oct 7, 10:51 pm, "~shady angel~" wrote:
Are you KIDDING?!


You wasted my time with this spam?


I asked member of a dog group for assistance.
What I did NOT ask for was a link to your SITE!


So you reply to it in full with all his bullshit so that the ones who are
smart enough to block him have to read all his crap??????


Also...smart ass...you didn't have to read his ****.
Learn how to use your delete button.

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Old October 16th 07, 02:33 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.dogs.labrador,alt.pets.dogs.pitbull,rec.pets.dogs.breeds
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raticals wrote:
On Oct 7, 10:51 pm, "~shady angel~" wrote:
Are you KIDDING?!


You wasted my time with this spam?


I asked member of a dog group for assistance.
What I did NOT ask for was a link to your SITE!


So you reply to it in full with all his bullshit so that the ones
who are smart enough to block him have to read all his crap??????


Also...smart ass...you didn't have to read his ****.
Learn how to use your delete button.


I'm not trying to be a smart arse, I'm just saying that when you reply to
him you dont have to qoute all of his garbage I wanted to read you post not
his!
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~shady angel~


 




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