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Old October 17th 07, 07:32 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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I recently got a dog at the local shelter. He is a lovable 2yo golden
Lab (75lb). He is very sweet and smart. I am currently training him
at home. Basic obedience using the food-lure method. It is working
well. Unfortunately, he seems to be aggressive towards other dogs. I
can't seem to get his attention whenever there are other dogs around.
We live in the country. When I walk him down the road he is okay
until we reach a yard with dogs. He basically loses all his wits and
starts pulling and raising his hackles. It is really hard to regain
control. Once he calms down he is fine again. HELP!

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Old October 17th 07, 07:38 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"dogtek" wrote in message
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I recently got a dog at the local shelter. He is a lovable 2yo golden
Lab (75lb). He is very sweet and smart. I am currently training him
at home. Basic obedience using the food-lure method. It is working
well. Unfortunately, he seems to be aggressive towards other dogs. I
can't seem to get his attention whenever there are other dogs around.
We live in the country. When I walk him down the road he is okay
until we reach a yard with dogs. He basically loses all his wits and
starts pulling and raising his hackles. It is really hard to regain
control. Once he calms down he is fine again. HELP!


food is a good thing to bring on walks. Take him to right where he starts
to freak about the dog and walk a bit away. If you can get his attention onn
you (do you have a watch command?) give him praise and a treat. Try and
keep his attention on you. Wave that treat under the nose and hold it up by
your face (probably good to practice this without distraction first) - WATCH
ME!. When he does say prase and treat.

Move a step closer to the dog in the yard. Repeat.

This method is slow but at some point you'll be able to tell him "Watch me!"
and walk right on by the dogs in the yards.


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Old October 17th 07, 08:54 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Getting his attention is nearly impossible, but I will keep at it.
One thing I have noticed is that PATIENCE is the key. I can only
imagine how much it is ME that is actually being trained!

I also need techniques for introducing him to other dogs. He is
aggressive, but one time I muzzled him and then turned him loose with
the neighbor's dog. After about 10 minutes I was able to remove the
muzzle and they did fine together. I was thinking about muzzling him
and then going to a dog park. I don't think he could injure any other
dogs with the muzzle on. I am really trying to find a positive way to
do this...

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Old October 17th 07, 12:59 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Default Socializing a 2yo dog... need info on techniques

dogtek spoke these words of wisdom in
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I recently got a dog at the local shelter. He is a lovable 2yo golden
Lab (75lb). He is very sweet and smart. I am currently training him
at home. Basic obedience using the food-lure method. It is working
well. Unfortunately, he seems to be aggressive towards other dogs. I
can't seem to get his attention whenever there are other dogs around.
We live in the country. When I walk him down the road he is okay
until we reach a yard with dogs. He basically loses all his wits and
starts pulling and raising his hackles. It is really hard to regain
control. Once he calms down he is fine again. HELP!


Take him to dog school where he works among other dogs and has to deal with
the distractions of other dogs and still obey.
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Old October 17th 07, 02:38 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"dogtek" wrote in message
oups.com...
Getting his attention is nearly impossible, but I will keep at it.
One thing I have noticed is that PATIENCE is the key. I can only
imagine how much it is ME that is actually being trained!

I also need techniques for introducing him to other dogs. He is
aggressive, but one time I muzzled him and then turned him loose with
the neighbor's dog. After about 10 minutes I was able to remove the
muzzle and they did fine together. I was thinking about muzzling him
and then going to a dog park. I don't think he could injure any other
dogs with the muzzle on. I am really trying to find a positive way to
do this...



JMO, but I think it would be better to intruduce him to other dogs on a more
individual basis, rather than a dog park. I wouldn't do the 'dog park'
thing until he's already been socialized to the point where you feel he is
reliable. A rescue dog I have was a bit dog aggressive when we first got
her. She is a rottie mix. I kept her leashed when intruducing her to other
dogs, one at a time. As soon as she began to show any sort of aggression, I
corrected her. If necessary, I put her down on her side in submission,
until she was completely submissive. When necessary, I used a muzzle on her
with certain dogs only. Left the muzzle on until I felt like she understood
the connection between 'aggression and muzzle', keeping her onleash so I
could immediately correct her for any sort of behavior that wasn't
acceptable. There were a couple times, after I took the muzzle off, but
still had her leashed, that she would begain to get very alpha again. As
soon as I saw her do it, I told her NO, a couple times slapping that muzzle
back on her again. It didn't take too long for her to learn which of the
behaviors were negative and would result in the return of the muzzle. I
didn't let her off leash until I was certain she understood what all this
*meant*, cause and effect, until she understood that she was not to attack
the other dog.

td





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Old October 17th 07, 09:01 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,rec.pets.dogs.breeds,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.dogs.labrador,alt.pets.dogs.pitbull
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In response to Jerry Howe -
Wow. I can't decide if you are trying to help me or not - I'll let
you know in a couple of days when I finish reading the lengthy
replies. If you are, may I suggest CONDENSING your point a little,
getting to it quicker, NOT calling so many people names and NOT
YELLING SO MUCH. If you have a manual that I can download, then by
all means provide a working link and I will check it out. And please
- reply to the group and not my e-mail address - thanks for your help
and cooperation.

ps - if I went into a shoe store and they spent half the time telling
me what A-HOLES the other shoe stores were, do you think it would make
me want to shop there more?

Other than that I do appreciate anybody's help I can get.

Thanks

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Old October 17th 07, 09:27 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"dogtek" wrote in message
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In response to Jerry Howe -
Wow. I can't decide if you are trying to help me or not - I'll let
you know in a couple of days when I finish reading the lengthy
replies. If you are, may I suggest CONDENSING your point a little,
getting to it quicker, NOT calling so many people names and NOT
YELLING SO MUCH. If you have a manual that I can download, then by
all means provide a working link and I will check it out. And please
- reply to the group and not my e-mail address - thanks for your help
and cooperation.

ps - if I went into a shoe store and they spent half the time telling
me what A-HOLES the other shoe stores were, do you think it would make
me want to shop there more?

Other than that I do appreciate anybody's help I can get.

Thanks



It's usually best to ignore him.


td





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Old October 17th 07, 11:15 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"dogtek" wrote in message
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Getting his attention is nearly impossible, but I will keep at it.
One thing I have noticed is that PATIENCE is the key. I can only
imagine how much it is ME that is actually being trained!

I also need techniques for introducing him to other dogs. He is
aggressive, but one time I muzzled him and then turned him loose with
the neighbor's dog. After about 10 minutes I was able to remove the
muzzle and they did fine together. I was thinking about muzzling him
and then going to a dog park. I don't think he could injure any other
dogs with the muzzle on. I am really trying to find a positive way to
do this...


Some dogs just aren't cut out to be in the dog park, no matter how much they
are socialized with other dogs.

Perhaps a local basic obedience class would help you develop skills and give
you the opportunity to work around the distraction of other dogs?

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Old October 18th 07, 05:56 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,rec.pets.dogs.breeds,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.dogs.labrador
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Not sure how I cross-posted, but **** YOU TOO ASSHOLE. ****ing
crybaby



ps - if I went into a shoe store and they spent half the time telling
me what A-HOLES the other shoe stores were, do you think it would make
me want to shop there more?


Other than that I do appreciate anybody's help I can get.


Thanks


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Old October 18th 07, 09:14 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"labtek" wrote in message
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Not sure how I cross-posted,

You crossposted when you responded to JH.

He had added the other groups and by not deleting them - as I have done -
you kept it up.

Judy

 




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