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Old October 28th 07, 04:25 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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My lad caught one of my girls when she was in season. I didn't want to mate
her that season so I took her to the vet and he gave her an injection with a
second 24 hours later.
Her season ended abruptly 2 days later (in that he totally lost interest and
she stopped baiting him)
This was 38 days ago.
I've noticed her nipples are still large and pink and I think she's in
whelp despite the injections.
If she is, how likely is it that the injections have harmed the pups? What
will she be have injected with? (Yes I'll ask my vet but it's an emergency
service now until Monday morning).
Anyone any experience of this? Is 38 days too late to do anything about the
pups? (It wouldn't be a major disaster if she had the pups but I don't want
to put her through it and then have to have the pups down because there's
something wrong with them or to put her through a caesarean unnecessarily)


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Old October 28th 07, 04:45 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"ME&YOU" wrote in message
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My lad caught one of my girls when she was in season. I didn't want to
mate her that season so I took her to the vet and he gave her an injection
with a second 24 hours later.
Her season ended abruptly 2 days later (in that he totally lost interest
and she stopped baiting him)
This was 38 days ago.
I've noticed her nipples are still large and pink and I think she's in
whelp despite the injections.
If she is, how likely is it that the injections have harmed the pups?
What will she be have injected with? (Yes I'll ask my vet but it's an
emergency service now until Monday morning).
Anyone any experience of this? Is 38 days too late to do anything about
the pups? (It wouldn't be a major disaster if she had the pups but I don't
want to put her through it and then have to have the pups down because
there's something wrong with them or to put her through a caesarean
unnecessarily)


Should point out that I realise I was careless in the extreme in letting him
get her. I only left them together for a few seconds as I was swapping pens
and I was right there with them and in the time it took me to turn round,
wham bam he was tied. Believe me I'm berating myself for it more than
anyone. My main concern now is doing what is best for her.


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Old October 29th 07, 01:06 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"ME&YOU" wrote in message
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If she is, how likely is it that the injections have harmed the pups?

What
will she be have injected with? (Yes I'll ask my vet but it's an emergency
service now until Monday morning).


...........Many centuries ago when I was young and stupid I let a boyfriend
walk an in-season pup. Well, the inevitable happened and I too had the dog
injected with something - don't know what any more. She delivered two
pups - who were healthy, but I didn't follow them after I got homes for
them, so don't know what their health was like on a lifelong basis.

..........I wouldn't worry about calling the vet before Monday - what's done
is done another 24 hours won't matter. You could probably search the
internet to see what they use these days to halt a pregnancy.

buglady
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Old October 29th 07, 04:06 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"buglady" wrote in message:

You could probably search the
internet to see what they use these days to halt a pregnancy.


Estrogen or some sort of estrogen derivative is probably what they used back
then. Problem is that there is a specific time windown when it is
effective - after the eggs have been released from the ovary and before she
goes out of heat. If no one checks for the concentration of progesterone to
see if the bitch has ovulated, then there is a chance that it was given too
early, and therefore won't work.

Prostaglandin F2Alpha is a safer option than Estrogen. It stops
progesterone production, and terminates the pregnancy. I believe it is
typically given within a month after mating (so a pregnancy can be
positively diagnosed and the pups reabsorbed), but in theory at least, can
be given at any time.

Suja


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Old October 29th 07, 10:18 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Suja" wrote in message
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"buglady" wrote in message:

You could probably search the
internet to see what they use these days to halt a pregnancy.


Estrogen or some sort of estrogen derivative is probably what they used
back
then. Problem is that there is a specific time windown when it is
effective - after the eggs have been released from the ovary and before
she
goes out of heat. If no one checks for the concentration of progesterone
to
see if the bitch has ovulated, then there is a chance that it was given
too
early, and therefore won't work.

Prostaglandin F2Alpha is a safer option than Estrogen. It stops
progesterone production, and terminates the pregnancy. I believe it is
typically given within a month after mating (so a pregnancy can be
positively diagnosed and the pups reabsorbed), but in theory at least, can
be given at any time.

Suja

She was given Alizine the day after my lad got her then 24 hours after that.
38 days ago. She's booked in for a scan in the morning. If she IS in whelp,
I don't think I could go through getting rid of them so late on although
I'll go over it with the vet.
My vet doesn't THINK the Alizine would damage the developing pups but she's
going to check with the manufacturer. I can't believe I was so damn careless



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Old October 29th 07, 10:22 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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You could probably search the
internet to see what they use these days to halt a pregnancy.


Estrogen or some sort of estrogen derivative is probably what they used
back
then. Problem is that there is a specific time windown when it is
effective - after the eggs have been released from the ovary and before
she
goes out of heat. If no one checks for the concentration of progesterone
to
see if the bitch has ovulated, then there is a chance that it was given
too
early, and therefore won't work.

Prostaglandin F2Alpha is a safer option than Estrogen. It stops
progesterone production, and terminates the pregnancy. I believe it is
typically given within a month after mating (so a pregnancy can be
positively diagnosed and the pups reabsorbed), but in theory at least,
can
be given at any time.

Suja

She was given Alizine the day after my lad got her then 24 hours after
that.
38 days ago. She's booked in for a scan in the morning. If she IS in
whelp,
I don't think I could go through getting rid of them so late on although
I'll go over it with the vet.
My vet doesn't THINK the Alizine would damage the developing pups but
she's
going to check with the manufacturer. I can't believe I was so damn
careless



Mmm - maybe I've got that spelling wrong - according to Wiki "Alizine is a
medicine used to counter an allergic reaction in Klingons."
Beam me up Scotty :-)


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Old October 30th 07, 06:33 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"ME&YOU" wrote in message
...
You could probably search the
internet to see what they use these days to halt a pregnancy.

Estrogen or some sort of estrogen derivative is probably what they used
back
then. Problem is that there is a specific time windown when it is
effective - after the eggs have been released from the ovary and before
she
goes out of heat. If no one checks for the concentration of
progesterone
to
see if the bitch has ovulated, then there is a chance that it was given
too
early, and therefore won't work.

Prostaglandin F2Alpha is a safer option than Estrogen. It stops
progesterone production, and terminates the pregnancy. I believe it is
typically given within a month after mating (so a pregnancy can be
positively diagnosed and the pups reabsorbed), but in theory at least,
can
be given at any time.

Suja

She was given Alizine the day after my lad got her then 24 hours after
that.
38 days ago. She's booked in for a scan in the morning. If she IS in
whelp,
I don't think I could go through getting rid of them so late on although
I'll go over it with the vet.
My vet doesn't THINK the Alizine would damage the developing pups but
she's
going to check with the manufacturer. I can't believe I was so damn
careless



Mmm - maybe I've got that spelling wrong - according to Wiki "Alizine is a
medicine used to counter an allergic reaction in Klingons."
Beam me up Scotty :-)



ROFLMAO.
I'm amused.
I wanted to just say that an accidental litter, while not ideal has happened
to some very responsible people i know. Its really what happens to the
puppies after they are born that matters. I'm sure you'll find them great
places to live with people that will care for them.


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Old October 31st 07, 09:39 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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You could probably search the
internet to see what they use these days to halt a pregnancy.

Estrogen or some sort of estrogen derivative is probably what they used
back
then. Problem is that there is a specific time windown when it is
effective - after the eggs have been released from the ovary and before
she
goes out of heat. If no one checks for the concentration of
progesterone
to
see if the bitch has ovulated, then there is a chance that it was given
too
early, and therefore won't work.

Prostaglandin F2Alpha is a safer option than Estrogen. It stops
progesterone production, and terminates the pregnancy. I believe it is
typically given within a month after mating (so a pregnancy can be
positively diagnosed and the pups reabsorbed), but in theory at least,
can
be given at any time.

Suja

She was given Alizine the day after my lad got her then 24 hours after
that.
38 days ago. She's booked in for a scan in the morning. If she IS in
whelp,
I don't think I could go through getting rid of them so late on although
I'll go over it with the vet.
My vet doesn't THINK the Alizine would damage the developing pups but
she's
going to check with the manufacturer. I can't believe I was so damn
careless



Mmm - maybe I've got that spelling wrong - according to Wiki "Alizine is
a medicine used to counter an allergic reaction in Klingons."
Beam me up Scotty :-)



ROFLMAO.
I'm amused.
I wanted to just say that an accidental litter, while not ideal has
happened to some very responsible people i know. Its really what happens
to the puppies after they are born that matters. I'm sure you'll find
them great places to live with people that will care for them.

Phew - false alarm -she's not preggers after all :-)


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Old October 31st 07, 01:47 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"ME&YOU" wrote in message
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Phew - false alarm -she's not preggers after all :-)

..........and all's well that ends well!

buglady
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