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Old November 11th 07, 07:54 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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I have a 13 year old lab cross bitch.
Have been treating her for some time with Propalin for urinary incontinence.
It appears to be working but now she is suffering incontinence the other
way.
I believe this may be a side efect of the Propalin.
Question here is how long do I keep giving her the Propalin, do I finish the
100ml bottle? It is not prescribed, I got it myself.
Also recently her back end is getting very weak and a few times her rear
legs simply gave way and she collapsed to a sitting position.
She is very slow and listless and I am scared to even take her for a walk in
case it puts too much strain on her.
Can't say 100% but she doesn't appear to be in pain.
Are these simply signs of old age, to put it bluntly is she dying?
Getting her to a vet is very difficult for me both from a financial and
transport point of view.

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Kenny Cargill





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Old November 11th 07, 07:55 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Kenny" wrote:


Question here is how long do I keep giving her the Propalin, do I finish the
100ml bottle? It is not prescribed, I got it myself.


You really should be consulting your vet.

Getting her to a vet is very difficult for me both from a financial and
transport point of view.


It's your responsibility. Find a way. She needs you to.

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Old November 11th 07, 07:59 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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In article ,
Kenny wrote:
I believe this may be a side efect of the Propalin.


Combined with her hind end weakness it suggests that it's
not a side effect, but rather that she's got something
degenerative going on (search on "degenerative myelopathy"
and "lower motor neuron disease"). But that's just one
obvious thing - there are other possibilities, and that's
what you need a vet for. I realize that money is tight but
by handling things yourself you're risking an incorrect
diagnosis (as you probably did here).

Are these simply signs of old age, to put it bluntly is she dying?


It really depends what it is. I've had dogs live a happy
few years after being diagnosed with the kind of thing
you're describing. It all comes down to how their quality
of life is, etc.
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Old November 12th 07, 12:29 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Thanks for the replies, will be able to get the money and working on the
transport.
Will post back.

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Kenny Cargill




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In article ,
Kenny wrote:
I believe this may be a side efect of the Propalin.


Combined with her hind end weakness it suggests that it's
not a side effect, but rather that she's got something
degenerative going on (search on "degenerative myelopathy"
and "lower motor neuron disease"). But that's just one
obvious thing - there are other possibilities, and that's
what you need a vet for. I realize that money is tight but
by handling things yourself you're risking an incorrect
diagnosis (as you probably did here).

Are these simply signs of old age, to put it bluntly is she dying?


It really depends what it is. I've had dogs live a happy
few years after being diagnosed with the kind of thing
you're describing. It all comes down to how their quality
of life is, etc.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community



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Old November 12th 07, 01:54 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Melinda Shore wrote:

In article ,
Kenny wrote:

I believe this may be a side efect of the Propalin.



Combined with her hind end weakness it suggests that it's
not a side effect, but rather that she's got something
degenerative going on (search on "degenerative myelopathy"
and "lower motor neuron disease"). But that's just one
obvious thing - there are other possibilities, and that's
what you need a vet for. I realize that money is tight but
by handling things yourself you're risking an incorrect
diagnosis (as you probably did here).


My kids' orthodontist's office was equipped with a pair of canine good
citizen certified chocolate labs. They ambled around the office,
reception area and treatment rooms soothing employees, patients and
parents.

Last spring Jonah started dragging his rear feet. The tops of his rear
toes were calloused and there was obvious atrophy of the dog's back end.

When I asked the doc about him she said he'd been diagnosed with some
sort of horrible myelopathy and then burst into tears. She was
terrified that her reluctance to euthanize him was causing him
unnecessary suffering. I told her to trust herself. That nobody knew
Jonah better or loved him more than she did and if she didn't think it
was time then it wasn't time.

And that there would come a day, probably not too far in the future when
she would look at him and know that it was time.

So she had him fitted out with a cart and enjoyed 6 more months with her
beloved companion. It restored mobility that he hadn't experienced in
many months.

His time came a couple of weeks ago, and his memorial service was held
today. More than a hundred patients, parents and friends attended.

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Old November 14th 07, 01:30 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On Nov 11, 1:54 pm, "Kenny" wrote:
I have a 13 year old lab cross bitch.
Have been treating her for some time with Propalin for urinary incontinence.
It appears to be working but now she is suffering incontinence the other
way.
I believe this may be a side efect of the Propalin.
Question here is how long do I keep giving her the Propalin, do I finish the
100ml bottle? It is not prescribed, I got it myself.
Also recently her back end is getting very weak and a few times her rear
legs simply gave way and she collapsed to a sitting position.
She is very slow and listless and I am scared to even take her for a walk in
case it puts too much strain on her.
Can't say 100% but she doesn't appear to be in pain.
Are these simply signs of old age, to put it bluntly is she dying?
Getting her to a vet is very difficult for me both from a financial and
transport point of view.

--
Kenny Cargill



Melinda is exactly right. You should go to the vet and confirm a
diagnosis, but it does sound a lot like degenerative myelopathy. I
have a 13 year old Akita who is going through the same thing. She is
able to control her urine, but will accidently defecate whens he barks
and sometimes while she is asleep. There is not much that can be done
other than supportive care, acupuncture, and then a cart if that is
financially feasible.

 




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