Don't fall for it Sharon. It is simple troll 101 Get a good laugh out of
it or turn it around on them. ;-)

No problem. Thanks for the heads up.

Janet Boss wrote:
In article ,
(Melinda Shore) wrote:


In poking around and trying to learn more about my various
options I found that an awful lot of people cannot afford
good dental care and they end up shopping by price (when
they can go at all), and the horror stories from people who
went to the cheap dentists are pretty awful.


thank you for reinforcing my fear of dentists.


I hatehatehate going to the dentist, thanks to the asshat pedadontist my
mother took me to when I was a kid. Instead of giving you credit for
having half a brain and explaining what he was doing and why, he'd put
the gas on you and crank it up to sedate you to the point that you
couldn't fight back, walk up holding the syringe behind his back and
pounce. And he never waited for the novacaine to take effect, he'd just
start drilling away, meaning that I felt everything and then went home
numb for hours.

My mother was not a stupid woman, not over all and in general. She was
a pediatric nurse, fergodsakes, so I have no idea why she thought that
was an acceptable way to handle things.

On top of it, he did a ton of really questionable dental work on my baby
teeth. Then we moved from St. Louis to Phoenix. I still remember my
new dentist's reaction when I opened my mouth... "Who did this and WHY?!"

My current dentist is a saint. Knowing my history, he puts the gas on,
does the novacaine, then goes off and works on other patients for a half
hour or so, leaving me to enjoy the nitrous and admire the pretty forest
mural wallpaper ("Ooh, look at the lovely trees!") for a half hour or so
until I'm good and numb.

And even so, I'd still rather have a pap smear and a mammogram rather
than go to the dentist.

In article ,
Kathleen wrote:

he'd put
the gas on you and crank it up to sedate you to the point that you
couldn't fight back, walk up holding the syringe behind his back and
pounce. And he never waited for the novacaine to take effect, he'd just
start drilling away, meaning that I felt everything and then went home
numb for hours.

Our dentist was very similar - "Killer" Keller. He yanked a lot of
teeth and used a lot of gas. I can still remember "open
wiyiyiyiyiyiyiyide". Getting high at a young age.

I agree with the other procedures - MUCH better than dentistry!

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Our dentist was very similar - "Killer" Keller. He yanked a lot of
teeth and used a lot of gas. I can still remember "open
wiyiyiyiyiyiyiyide". Getting high at a young age.

My fear started when I was a kid in Syracuse. The old fat fart dentist - Dr.
Rose - told me to shut up and stop acting like a baby. Almost 40 years later
and I'm still anxiety ridden about dental work. Impending childbirth never
worried me as much.

I guess a troll by your definition is any post you disagree with.

"Sharon Too" wrote in
:

Don't fall for it Sharon. It is simple troll 101 Get a good laugh
out of it or turn it around on them. ;-)

No problem. Thanks for the heads up.

"Sharon Too" wrote in
:

And, in answer to the other poster, posing as a veterinarian,

I never "posed" as a veterinarian. I am a practice manager/owner and
stated as such. Again, if you have specific questions about the
business end of vet med, I'd be happy to answer as it related to our
practice. But I won't be fodder for your insults and barbs.


I never asked any questions. I have dealt with enough vet offices here
in Tucson to KNOW what their business practices are. They primary
objective is profit and the animals welfare comes a distant second.
Please read my orginal post.

"Sharon Too" wrote in
:

Again to the other poster, what "billing" since you all seem to
demand full payment immediately? Why do you need someone to bill for
you?

We let our established clients bill. But not new clients. We've been
burned too many times. On the business end, there isn't one company we
deal with who lets us pay in installments.

So you discrimnate against people on the simple basis that they are new?
Rather stupid policy.


But many of those people are veterinary school interns.

Way too many vets where I am, one reason why they are so hard up for
cash.

We don't have one. And when we get vet school interns they do not see
patients. They cannot practice medicine without a license.

Your not in my city then, so my OP may not apply to you.


We have a staff of 12. All with college degrees, none are interns.
There's a lot to running a practice. But I suspect that this OP
wants to hear none of the facts.

Your job is not to build your own little kingdom, but to serve
animals and prevent suffering.

And pay our bills how?

Like many people do, on a monthly billed basis. Do all your other
debtors ask for payment in advance, or immediately at time of service. I
think not. But all the vet practices in my city DEMAND immediate full
payment. Quite obvious what their primary interest is.


Most of the so-called "Drs." that I've run into
lately are more concerned with generating profit ....

Dink. This is where our conversation ends.

yeah, cuz you can't argue logically. and your probably morally bankrupt
as well. Do the animal world a favor and become a stockbroker.

"Melinda Shore" wrote in message:

I thought about doing that, but I'm a nervous patient and
want to have an ongoing relationship with the surgeon.

I can understand that. I am generally cool with medical procedures, as long
as I am confident that my physician knows what he/she is doing.

single and it was great to have my mother come out and
chauffeur me around (and clean up when I puked up a bunch of
blood, which was really, really gross. Thanks, mom!).

You could've taken your mom on the trip too. Maybe she wouldn't mind
visiting Asian countries?

I was at a meeting in Bangkok when one of the attendees
(from Ireland) developed appendicitis, and she said that the
hospital was like a spa and didn't particularly want to
leave.

Yup. The hospitals that cater to medical tourists are generally setup like
spas, but with top notch physicians and nurses, top of the line equipment
and great customer service. Anything you want, you can get. There was an
article in the Post a few months ago about American workers being given
incentives for travel abroad for major medical procedures (basically, they
ended up with no out of pocket expenses of any sort, extended time-off,
etc.). The experiences detailed were quite interesting.

Suja

I've deleted the rant, but can I just say here that I think Flotsam
and Jetsam would be *great* names for a pair of littermates adopted
at the same time from a shelter?

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"If there's one thing I know, it's men. I ought to: it's
been my life work." -- Marie Dressler, in /Dinner at Eight/