Is there any correlation between separation anxiety and off leash
recall? I was just thinking about this because I've heard a few people in
another group mention how some of their dogs have excellant recall and then
at another time they mentioned they same dogs have mild to severe SA issues.
I was wondering if they were linked in anyway. If a dog prefers to not be
separated, it might seem that the recall is good as well or that the dog
doesn't stray too far. It also got me thinking because Maui is possible a
little bit SA and when we go to the state park, his recall is perfect. At
home, he is also capable of being off leash outside and mostly stays on our
property. He hasn't been to the neighbors beagles in months, which is
great! I wonder if this correlates with me working longer hours? Anyway,
just thinking outloud. Feel free to comment.

--
~~~~~
Jenny, Maui and Cali

MauiJNP wrote:
It also got me thinking because Maui is possible a
little bit SA and when we go to the state park, his recall is perfect. At
home, he is also capable of being off leash outside and mostly stays on our
property. He hasn't been to the neighbors beagles in months, which is
great! I wonder if this correlates with me working longer hours? Anyway,
just thinking outloud. Feel free to comment.

When you say he has a good recall, do you mean that he sticks close
to you, or that he motors around, doing his own thing until he is
called?

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

"MauiJNP" wrote in
:

It also got me thinking because Maui is possible a
little bit SA and when we go to the state park, his recall is perfect.

Zoe has perfect recall too. I did take her to class and we did train for
that, and I don't think she has SA -- but how would I know? All I know is
that if she does, it doesn't show up in any destructive way.

What I do know is that she is deeply bonded to me, and she is a one-
person kind of dog. She's the slowest to approach new people, she is the
most protective, and she comes running when I call her.

She's my first dog (as an adult) and I raised her from a pup, and we
didn't have Queenie for a couple of years, so that's probably got
something to do with it. Also, of the 3 dogs, she is the most similar to
me in temperament (which is probably a strange thing to say, but I'm
saying it anyway).

--
Catherine
& Zoe, Queenie, & Max, 3 black dogs of varying sizes
& Rosalie the calico cat
www.ourladyofperfection.blogspot.com

On Nov 14, 7:43 pm, "MauiJNP" wrote:
Is there any correlation between separation anxiety and off leash
recall? I was just thinking about this because I've heard a few people in
another group mention how some of their dogs have excellant recall and then
at another time they mentioned they same dogs have mild to severe SA issues.
I was wondering if they were linked in anyway. If a dog prefers to not be
separated, it might seem that the recall is good as well or that the dog
doesn't stray too far. It also got me thinking because Maui is possible a
little bit SA and when we go to the state park, his recall is perfect. At
home, he is also capable of being off leash outside and mostly stays on our
property. He hasn't been to the neighbors beagles in months, which is
great! I wonder if this correlates with me working longer hours? Anyway,
just thinking outloud. Feel free to comment.

--
~~~~~
Jenny, Maui and Cali

Hmm, my collies consistently have great recalls and no SA.

My tenant has a GSP X with horrendous SA. It took her a year to get
a handle on it and until she did, he would howl, cry and drool from
the moment she left to when she came back. It was a real joy for us
living upstairs. Being a GSP cross with a powerful nose, strong
birding instinct and a big helping of ADD, he has taken off on her
without a thought in his sweet yet dopy brain. I don't think he
ignored her calls as much as he didn't notice them.

Chris at work and the smoothies plus a spare
Pablo, Lucy & Smudgie the Mighty Lhasa

"ChrisJ" wrote in message:

Hmm, my collies consistently have great recalls and no SA.

While it isn't necessary for dogs to have SA to have great recalls, I don't
know if there is no correlation between recall and SA in dogs that have SA.
I'm fairly certain that Pan came in with a built-in recall, and that it has
a whole lot to do with her dependency on her person. On the other hand,
because she isn't as overly attached to Rajesh as she is to me, she is not
nearly as responsive to him as she is to me.

Suja

"MauiJNP" wrote in message
...
Is there any correlation between separation anxiety and off leash
recall? I was just thinking about this because I've heard a few people in
another group mention how some of their dogs have excellant recall and
then at another time they mentioned they same dogs have mild to severe SA
issues. I was wondering if they were linked in anyway. If a dog prefers
to not be separated, it might seem that the recall is good as well or that
the dog doesn't stray too far.

Coming in late to this, but, Wojo doesn't normally wander too far away from
me on our walks and has a wonderful recall. However, I've never noticed any
SA with him.

Trip, on the other hand, has developed SA caused by stupid owner. His recall
is nowhere near as good as Wojo's.

Beth

It also got me thinking because Maui is possible a little bit SA and when
we go to the state park, his recall is perfect. At home, he is also
capable of being off leash outside and mostly stays on our property. He
hasn't been to the neighbors beagles in months, which is great! I wonder
if this correlates with me working longer hours? Anyway, just thinking
outloud. Feel free to comment.

When you say he has a good recall, do you mean that he sticks close to
you, or that he motors around, doing his own thing until he is called?


Maui stays in our yard and goes about his business (checking the property,
going potty, playing with Cali, chasing rabbits, etc). When I call him to
come in (if he doesn't come back on his own to let me know he's ready to
come in) he comes back to me. The things I notice that are different
from Cali: slightly nervous behavior as I get ready to go somewhere, always
following me around even if it is just to go away for a second, knocking
down gates to get to me even if I am coming right back, bringing a toy in
his mouth and not letting it go when he greets me after I am away, and
seeming like he needs to see me rather than is just very happy to see me.
He does not cry when I am out of sight. He plays a good game of hide and
seek though. He goes around the house crazy and doesn't stop until he finds
me. You can tell he is more anxious the more time that goes by. He also
avoids Cali's attempts at play when he is trying to find me. He is not
detered by anything to get to me.

It also got me thinking because Maui is possible a
little bit SA and when we go to the state park, his recall is perfect.

Zoe has perfect recall too. I did take her to class and we did train for
that, and I don't think she has SA -- but how would I know? All I know is
that if she does, it doesn't show up in any destructive way.


Maui also has been to classes and I have tried to train him since day 1 to
be reliable off lead. He was never leashed as a puppy outside because he
just stayed with me and followed me around. He was only here a few days
before he'd take walks around the perimeter (around several of the 10 acres)
with my dad and nephew off lead and never going away from them. He was just
always interested in staying with his people. Cali is not like that. She
wants to explore and have adventures. She likes to run and when she
realizes she is free, she is undistractible. She is getting better, and
since we have several inches of snow yesterday, was out a little without
attempting to run. She wondered a bit but came back right away when I
called her. She will still be leashed for the next year and then I should
be in my own place with a fence so she can be free all the time she's out!

What I do know is that she is deeply bonded to me, and she is a one-
person kind of dog. She's the slowest to approach new people, she is the
most protective, and she comes running when I call her.


Maui is sensitive and protective. He is the first to greet new people
though, Cali hangs back. He prefers me over others but is also loyal to my
parents and their ice cream bowls!


She's my first dog (as an adult) and I raised her from a pup, and we
didn't have Queenie for a couple of years, so that's probably got
something to do with it.

Maui was also my first adult dog, raised from an 8 week old puppy. I only
had him 15 months before I got Cali though.



Also, of the 3 dogs, she is the most similar to
me in temperament (which is probably a strange thing to say, but I'm
saying it anyway).


can I email you something that might be of interest to you? its an article
on a research study about pet's and owner's personality.

Chris at work and the smoothies plus a spare
Pablo, Lucy & Smudgie the Mighty Lhasa

who's the spare? a new dog? a loaner? do tell!

I'm fairly certain that Pan came in with a built-in recall


where do I get me one of those? in the PWD variety please!