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Old November 23rd 07, 02:30 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Are there any negative side effects of a dog eating a lot of veggies
(meaning some everyday as treats)? The veggies are green beans, carrots,
and sweet potatoes. What are the best veggies for dogs to have? green
beans? how is celery? I heard carrots are not good for daily feeding
because it is too much vitamin A and also sugar (?).

The reason I am asking is because I want to get away from most store
bought dog treats and want to mostly make my own stuff in the dehydrator.
The dogs love veggie leather and it is easy to make. I also do plain
veggies in the dehydrator that go over well. I want a good treat that is
healthy even in the long term and also that is pretty low calorie? I know
celery is one of the best veggies for people because of the non-fatness of
it, can I assume the same is for true for dogs?

Also, does anyone know of a good canine nutritionist that does phone
consults? There aren't really any in my area and I like to talk about a few
things that I heard or read. I have read a few books on the topic but I
want to talk with someone about some of the conflicting stuff I noticed.
Thanks.

~~~~~
Jenny, Maui and Cali


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Old November 23rd 07, 04:27 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"MauiJNP" said in rec.pets.dogs.health:

Also, does anyone know of a good canine nutritionist that
does phone consults?


If you dejagoogle Marshall Dermer's posts on this group, there's
one he highly recommends. I'd trust his opinion. Though, IIRC,
t'ain't cheap.

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Old November 23rd 07, 04:32 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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MauiJNP wrote:
Also, does anyone know of a good canine nutritionist that does phone
consults?


Cornell has a new clinical nutrition program. I'd call up
to the Companion Animal Hospital and ask them for contact
information. http://www.vet.cornell.edu
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Old November 23rd 07, 05:08 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Also, does anyone know of a good canine nutritionist that does phone
consults?


Cornell has a new clinical nutrition program. I'd call up
to the Companion Animal Hospital and ask them for contact
information. http://www.vet.cornell.edu



thanks for the lead.


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Old November 23rd 07, 05:09 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Also, does anyone know of a good canine nutritionist that
does phone consults?


If you dejagoogle Marshall Dermer's posts on this group, there's
one he highly recommends. I'd trust his opinion. Though, IIRC,
t'ain't cheap.



thanks, I will see if I can figure the google thing out. the not cheap part
is ok as long as long as it is somewhat reasonable.


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Old November 23rd 07, 05:17 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Also, does anyone know of a good canine nutritionist that
does phone consults?


If you dejagoogle Marshall Dermer's posts on this group, there's
one he highly recommends. I'd trust his opinion. Though, IIRC,
t'ain't cheap.



I found the name (yeah!).

While researching, I found this...
http://www.petdiets.com/default.asp?...y/category.asp

it talks about onion and garlic dangers. maybe I should send this to the
dog company that swore they were ok once cooked. it this article, it
clearly says cooking them doesn't change their toxicity!


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Old November 23rd 07, 11:12 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"MauiJNP" spoke these words of wisdom in
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Are there any negative side effects of a dog eating a lot of veggies
(meaning some everyday as treats)? The veggies are green beans,
carrots, and sweet potatoes. What are the best veggies for dogs to
have? green beans? how is celery? I heard carrots are not good for
daily feeding because it is too much vitamin A and also sugar (?).

The reason I am asking is because I want to get away from most store
bought dog treats and want to mostly make my own stuff in the
dehydrator. The dogs love veggie leather and it is easy to make. I also
do plain veggies in the dehydrator that go over well. I want a good
treat that is healthy even in the long term and also that is pretty low
calorie? I know celery is one of the best veggies for people because of
the non-fatness of it, can I assume the same is for true for dogs?

Also, does anyone know of a good canine nutritionist that does phone
consults? There aren't really any in my area and I like to talk about a
few things that I heard or read. I have read a few books on the topic
but I want to talk with someone about some of the conflicting stuff I
noticed. Thanks.

~~~~~
Jenny, Maui and Cali




Dr Rebecca Remmillard is a board certified canine nutritionist. about a
decade ago, it cost about $100 to talk to her. http://petdiets.com/ She
formulated diets for Danny when he was still eating raw. But he was already
reacting to EVERYTHING, and she told me it was not possible at that time to
give him a balanced diet because at that time, he WAS reacting to
EVERYTHING.
He had long term malnutrition because i insisted on feeding him raw, and
she strongly urged that I feed him hills Science diet ZD-ultra, because all
the long protien chains that he was reacting to, had been broken up, so
even though the ingredients he was allergic to were in the product, they
were altered so he could digest them, not react, and still obtain the
balanced nutrition that he needed.

ZD-Ultra was still a number and not named at that time. But Danny was a
candidate. i looked at the ingredient label and could not bring myself to
feed it. I was terrified, knowing these were the ingredients that were
causing him issues.
When i saw he was dying anyway on my diet, I took a leap of faith and
trusted her.
It worked. i saw him slowly gain strength instead of fading away.
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Old November 23rd 07, 01:22 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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. ..
He had long term malnutrition because i insisted on feeding him raw,


.......he had long term problems because he swallowed a huge bone whole,
which banged around in his stomach for weeks which eventually damaged his
pyloric value. At least that was the story then.

buglady
take out the dog before replying


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Old November 23rd 07, 01:24 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"MauiJNP" wrote in message
...
Also, does anyone know of a good canine nutritionist that does phone
consults? There aren't really any in my area and I like to talk about a

few
things that I heard or read. I have read a few books on the topic but I
want to talk with someone about some of the conflicting stuff I noticed.


..........Nutrition is a science, but much of dog feeding is opinion. Keep
that in mind when you talk to anyone.
........And I had to giggle a bit when I saw your subject line - Negative
self effects....... ;-)

buglady
take out the dog before replying



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Old November 23rd 07, 01:31 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"buglady" spoke these words of wisdom in
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"diddy" none wrote in message
. ..
He had long term malnutrition because i insisted on feeding him raw,


......he had long term problems because he swallowed a huge bone whole,
which banged around in his stomach for weeks which eventually damaged his
pyloric value. At least that was the story then.

buglady
take out the dog before replying




Actually he swallowed that bone AFTER his pyloric valve surgery.
But the reason he was reacting to everything was because he had scarred
his pyloric valve shut from long term abrasion from bones from turkey necks
(etc) which resulted in his stripping his mucosal lining of his stomach...
and from there, the trying to heal until he was well enough to have
surgery. He reacted to EVERYTHING, because his stomach was already
inflamed. We couldn't tell what he was allergic to or not. Because
everything reacted.

When they opened up the pyloric valve, that bone was eventually able to
pass. But the bone he swallowed was a huge worry, especially since the
pyloric valve and stomach had not yet healed (and never did again)
 




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