More labs (not Labs) are offering DNA testing to determined lineage,
like:
www.animalsdna.com
Didn't think it mattered, but last month's "Dog Fancy" had two
intriguing pages. Photos of 4 mixed breeds and the assumptions of
owner, veterinarian and another "expert". They were all wa-ay off.
Is this information one would want? Could it be useful?
A worrisome aspect is that authorties could use it to facilitate BSL.
The price is down to about $70.

In article ,
(Chris Williams) wrote:

More labs (not Labs) are offering DNA testing to determined lineage,
like:
www.animalsdna.com
Didn't think it mattered, but last month's "Dog Fancy" had two
intriguing pages. Photos of 4 mixed breeds and the assumptions of
owner, veterinarian and another "expert". They were all wa-ay off.
Is this information one would want? Could it be useful?
A worrisome aspect is that authorties could use it to facilitate BSL.
The price is down to about $70.

I think it is very flawed.

Does this look like it could POSSIBLY be a Sibe/Shih-Tzu mix to you?

http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/a...dy1001/Murphy/

Lucy is a KNOWN mix. I don't really want to spend the money to see if
the lab can get it right.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Chris Williams wrote:
More labs (not Labs) are offering DNA testing to determined lineage,
like:
www.animalsdna.com
Didn't think it mattered, but last month's "Dog Fancy" had two
intriguing pages. Photos of 4 mixed breeds and the assumptions of
owner, veterinarian and another "expert". They were all wa-ay off.
Is this information one would want? Could it be useful?
A worrisome aspect is that authorties could use it to facilitate BSL.
The price is down to about $70.


I'm not sure it could be useful, but it could be fun. Cubbe, by looks
and personality, is almost definitely part Chow Chow. She has the
straight back legs, curly tail, ruff, and black gums and roof of mouth.
She's also almost definitely part something else. She doesn't have
the full mane and stocky furriness of a pure Chow Chow. But what else?
We love to speculate. Maybe the boxy shape came from Border Collie.
Maybe the white spot on her chest is hound. Maybe that noise came from
beagle. Mixed breed dogs are Rorschach tests, fun but scientifically
useless.


This is the first time I've heard of DNA tests being accurate as to
breed. I thought they could accurately say something about which dogs
an individual is related to, that is mother, father, littermates,
provided you had DNA from both dogs you were trying to show relationship
between. In other words, you could prove a dog was related to a
particular line from a particular breeder. I didn't know there were
defining strings of DNA for each breed. In fact, I understood exactly
the opposite.


--Lia

Julia Altshuler wrote:

www.animalsdna.com


Aauurgh. My mistake. I wrote what I did, then checked the website.
Nowhere do they advertise that they can determine which breeds a mix has
in its heritage. They say they can confirm parentage and trace
pedigrees. I take that to mean that they can do what I said in my last
post.


--Lia

In article ,
Julia Altshuler wrote:


Aauurgh. My mistake. I wrote what I did, then checked the website.
Nowhere do they advertise that they can determine which breeds a mix has
in its heritage. They say they can confirm parentage and trace
pedigrees. I take that to mean that they can do what I said in my last
post.

This company identifies breeds. Or says they do. As I posted, I think
it is deeply flawed.

http://www.metamorphixinc.com/products3.html

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

(Chris Williams) wrote in news:6287-47557AA3-800
@baytvnwsxa001.msntv.msn.com:

More labs (not Labs) are offering DNA testing to determined lineage,


I think the Labs probably know best!

I am curious about the breeds that my dogs have in them. The only one I
don't know is Queenie, whose mother was a Golden, and whose father is
unknown. The best guess is Border Collie but he could have also been a
mix of some kind.

The reason I'd like to know has to do with where their various traits
come from. I'd rather know their actual parents, though, for that
information, but I haven't had the pleasure.

--
Catherine
& Zoe, Queenie, & Max, 3 black dogs of varying sizes
& Rosalie the calico cat
www.ourladyofperfection.blogspot.com

Julia Altshuler spoke these words of wisdom in
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This is the first time I've heard of DNA tests being accurate as to
breed. I thought they could accurately say something about which dogs
an individual is related to, that is mother, father, littermates,
provided you had DNA from both dogs you were trying to show relationship
between. In other words, you could prove a dog was related to a
particular line from a particular breeder. I didn't know there were
defining strings of DNA for each breed. In fact, I understood exactly
the opposite.




When we discussed these last spring, I sent in Tuck's DNA via bloodtest by
my vet.
they asked for a picture. I didn't send one in.
He came back Springer Spaniel/Flat coat

I did not tell them what breed he was, since they were to determine that.

Of course, here is Tuck's pedigree, with his DNA Strip comparison with both
of his parents. (these DNA strips were mouth brush samples) not the blood
test samples that were sent in via vet for the breed test
http://shell2.lomag.net/~moosedog/Tuck/pups.htm

Like you, I love to speculate. But the site I posted is just the first
one I ran across; if you Google, you'll find some (university vet
schools, too) who say they can tell you all the breeds that went into
your mix.
It could bring some relief. I'm responsible for a huge mix who has
lived in a hospital ward since she was a puppy eight years ago. I've
guessed Mastiff/Airedale and fight bitterly to keep them from
overfeeding her; she's about 10% overweight. Took for her yearly exam
with fear and trepidation, and asked for radiographs to determine if she
had hip displasia. The vet manipulated a back leg and said, "No need.
She's part terrier and terriers don't get displasia." Did you know
that? Is it true?
The dog, a local celebrity, writes a column, and I titled the next
one, "I Have My Mother's Eyes and My Father's Hips".

"Chris Williams" wrote in message
...
More labs (not Labs) are offering DNA testing to determined lineage,
like:
www.animalsdna.com
Didn't think it mattered, but last month's "Dog Fancy" had two
intriguing pages. Photos of 4 mixed breeds and the assumptions of
owner, veterinarian and another "expert". They were all wa-ay off.
Is this information one would want? Could it be useful?
A worrisome aspect is that authorties could use it to facilitate BSL.
The price is down to about $70.

I considered using Canine Heritage to see what Muttley's ancestry might be.
It might be worth the $65 just for curiosity sake.

But I think there might be some genetic indicators of human aggression, dog
aggression, and unstable temperamant. It would be a very powerful tool if
these could be determined and used for screening and prediction of
problems. It should be possible to identify a pattern based on DNA samples
from known aggressive and dangerous dogs, and those with long-term
naturally good dispositions. This would be a much more fair basis for BSL,
which in this case might be GSL, Genetically Selective Legislation.

Paul and Muttley

Chris Williams wrote:
Took for her yearly exam
with fear and trepidation, and asked for radiographs to determine if she
had hip displasia. The vet manipulated a back leg and said, "No need.
She's part terrier and terriers don't get displasia." Did you know
that? Is it true?


No idea. Sorry I can't help. Anyone else?


--Lia