On May 1, 1:41�pm, "Paul E. Schoen" wrote:
"Nessa" wrote in message

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On May 1, 1:45 am, "Paul E. Schoen" wrote:

(Or even to be just a dog...)

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Responsible owners don't intentionally allow their dogs to "just be
dogs" at the expense of other people's dogs.
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As I now warn others with black Labs. So what's the point?

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Before or after you allow Muttley to get in their faces? Or unleash
him to attack them?
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So, you never attempted to deal with this "problem" except by extreme
management. Janet certainly would not have been able to train it out of
him, especially by using punitive methods that often cause aggression or
make it worse. So you had to take all kinds of special precautions and
limited you and your dog to a very narrow range of socialization, rather
than determine its extent and actually attempt to deal with its root cause.

Yet you criticize me for giving Muttley the opportunity of interacting with
other people and animals, and learning more about why he acts as he does
(probably because he's "just a dog"), and make some attempt to reduce or
eliminate his apparently focused aggressive tendencies. And he has been
very good for the most part, and maybe he developed his problems *because*
of Janet's class, as he seemed fine before that.

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Yeah, You'd had him a few weeks and he'd already bitten a person.
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But I'm sure Janet told you what to do (or not do), and you kissed
her...feet and blessed her for her infinite wisdom and expertise with
aggressive dogs.

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I am betting you know I don't kiss any part of Janet's anatomy. But I
also think you are a danger to other pet owners. Not your dog, you.
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Yet my friend George "SweetAss", who is the only human known to
have been
bitten by Muttley, came to my house yesterday and helped me clean up my
yard, and Muttley was happy to lie in the grass and watch us work. Then I
put him in the house, and George hand-fed him some strips of raw beef
heart, and a marrow bone. Later, George went in to get some water, and I
forgot to "warn" him that Muttley was in there, but he came back out
unscathed.

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So you just didn't think that it was necessary to mention to a person
that your dog had bitten in the past that he was loose in the house.
Nice. You got lucky, sucker. By the way, I notice the people on
VictoriaStilwell.com are starting to figure you out. Especially with
all of your little side comments on how you like to push buttons and
irritate people. The moderator all but called you a troll yesterday.
Not sure if you even noticed. BTW, while Paul's here talking about
positive training, he's over there telling everyone how necessary
punishment is in some situations. He does know how to play both sides
of the aisle.
Sandy in OK