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Old May 22nd 09, 03:33 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Paul E. Schoen
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Default Muttley's play date


"diddy" none wrote in message
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Sandy in OK spoke these words of wisdom in
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On May 21, 1:30�pm, diddy none wrote:
Paul is in my killfile, has Muttley attacked another dog?


A few weeks ago (a bit over a month, I think) Paul took him to an off-
leash socialization event and he attacked a young black lab. The dog
wasn't seriously injured. Whether or not a person takes classes is
their business (and you're right, I wouldn't want him in my class
either - especially since anything that happens is the instructors
fault and he blames them online, along with publishing their webpage
along with his whining). Additionally, I don't think he's capable of
using good judgement and not creating dangerous situations. But
whether or not he addresses the dog's issues through training, I think
it's just abhorrent to continue to place other dogs at risk in his
desire to socialize the dog. Not all dogs are appropriate for off-
leash play with strange dogs, and many dogs are not appropriate for on-
leash, nose-to-nose greetings with strange dogs. If you know you have
a dog who has issues in this area, it's your responsibility to keep
other people's pets safe, as well as your own. But I know you know
that, Diddy. Unfortunately, Paul doesn't get it at all, and continues
to put dogs at risk.


This month I left a Search and Rescue training seminar because a clueless
inept handler couldn't hang on to her bloodhound and it kept getting
loose.
Tuck doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body. Her bloodhound had
already been loose 4 times in a matter of days. Her dog attacked mine.
The
search trainers did not reprimand the bad handler. They did nothing to
protect my dog. They took away our guns (which is a good thing... because
there WOULD have been an incident)

My dog never defended himself. He never tried to do anything. He stood
there while he got bitten and waited for me to remove the dog from him.

it only takes ONE attack from another dog to ruin a dog and turn them dog
aggressive FOR LIFE. Tuck has been attacked several times. It's my JOB
to
protect him. So far, he's not been damaged by those episodes. But when
they
offered nothing to protect my dog from the idiot handler, I left, and
took
my dog home to safety. I forfeited the seminar, my money, and my
certification that I went there for, just because another dog presented a
danger to my dog.

If muttley attacked Tuck.. he'd be dead. I'm sure I'm not the only person
who feels that way about their dog, and someday Paul is going to wonder
what happened, when he selects another target to become Muttley's lunch.
I'm sure I have a whole lot more time and training and investment in Tuck
than Paul ever dreamed of in Muttley.


Since you have me killfiled you don't read what I post and only the
hysterical fabrications and fears of others who choose to make their own
comments with their own skewed attitude. I have received much more helpful
advice in a short time from the forums of Victoria Stilwell and the CM
forum than I have ever received here. And the only advice I took was to
attend Janet's classes which turned into a disaster.

I am very resonsible with Muttley and I told my friend that he had
displayed some dog aggression in the past, but she was not worried and
Muttley was every bit the gentleman during his visit. Who knows why he
displayed the aggression on those few instances. Dogs sometimes don't get
along. They play rough or they fight. They send signals and react in ways
we sometimes don't understand. But at least I am trying to find out why he
has done what he has, and I am giving him the opportunity to socialize and
be a dog.

Your experience with the aggressive bloodhound was unfortunate, and was
much worse than any of the incidents that Muttley was involved in except
maybe the first, where he was very stressed and it was very likely
redirected aggression. I'm sure Muttley would not have attacked Tuck, and I
would not have let him off leash without first having them meet each other
properly.

Paul and Muttley