"chardonnay9" wrote in message
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Dale Atkin wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
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Took Liberty (mix Lab Rott) to the vet last Thursday. Swollen lymph
nodes. Got her on antibiotics for a week, then recheck when she's in a
better mood to let the vet touch her. Didn't even ask him about the
MSM.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Re. MSM: According to one of my profs who is a 'joint expert', there are
no good peer reviewed studies indicating the effectiveness of any of the
nutriceuticals in relieving joint pain (MSM, Glucosamine, Chondroiten),
that being said I have personally noticed a difference with my dogs since
putting them on a Glucosamine/MSM/Multivitamin supplement (CT Support).

Imagine that! Something that works even though there are no good studies
about it. That should never happen....


I have always believed the old adage from Hamlet re. "There are more things
on heaven and earth Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies". That
doesn't mean I'm willing to swallow random non-sense. It means that if given
plausible explanation for something, that isn't contradicted by something
else that I am more sure of, then I keep an open mind.

If existing research already had the answers to every problem, the
univerisities would be shut down.

I went through a *huge* debate some years back on the orthodogs yahoo
group trying to determine what an 'appropriate' dose of MSM was (if
you're curious, look it up). After some research, it seemed as though
there was no well established dose, and no reason behind the dose that
was typically quoted (other than that is what people generally gave).

Maybe because that dose caused results? That would be the best reason.

But would a higher dose give better results? What about a lower dose (yes,
some things work better at lower doses)? Are there side effects of higher
doses that offset benefits? There are no answers (that I've seen) to these
questions. From everything I've read, it seems like the numbers are just
being pulled out of thin air.

Interestingly, I spoke with someone who 'determined' the appropriate dose of
metamucil to give to a dog. It was pulled totally out of thin air, then the
dose was tested to see if it worked. It did, so it went down in the
literature. There was no testing to see if more would be better, or if less
would be just as effective, but you see people all over the place quoting
the number as 'the dose'.

Dale