"~Karen~" wrote
cshenk wrote:

I have lurked for a looooong! time.

Welcome back Karen! I'm pretty much new compared to what folks say here.

I happen to agree with Dogman here. I can't see the purpose of teaching
multiple commands to multiple people when one simple term will suffice.

Yes, but there is a difference involved.

By the same token, I am a person who does not have long, involved one
sided conversations with my dog either. If I'm going to the P.O. I

Nor do I. Dogman mixed me with Paul somehow. He also lost sight that if
you say 'Cash' there is 100% immediate attention. Hence advice to Daughter
to preceed 'command' with his name if chatting with friend as jogging along.
You don't afterall expect 2 chatting 16 year olds to never use the word
'stop' (oh, He's heart stop cool!) and Cash isn't that dumb.

don't explain where the car ride will take us and what all it will
involve - it's simply open the front door and "Let's go!"

Same here. Mine's simpler. 'In' works.

One thing that causes me concern with convoluted, multiple commands is the
additional time all of this would take in the event of an emergency. If a
car should pull out in front of you and you would need to immediately
brake and swerve to avoid a collision you are shouting a lot of words when
a simple quick command would cover it all. If that

What lot of words? 'Brake'. It's one word. He already knows 'Stop' as an
immediate 'right this second, skin your nose on the road if you have to sort
of stop'.

situation should arise when I was biking with my dog I can simply make a
sharp noise that he already knows means "things are changing and you must
pay attention here" and he immediately adjusts and responds to whatever
braking and swerving I need to do to keep us both safe.

Ok. Thats what I am working on along with what he already knew. I'm trying
to not add too many new words. To Cash 'brake' means immediate attention
and watch closely as I am slowing down and may shift fast. This seems to be
the same as your sound?

I could use any word from the names of flowers like 'marigold' if I wanted
to and it wouldnt matter to him as long as we had a common understanding of
the behavior expected.

You fixate like an ADHD person on one thing and go 'that has
to be it' and there is nothing else that exists.

The mental disorder I think you are actually referring to is OCD. ADHD
individuals have difficulty focusing on either information or tasks.

Grin

Dogman, You have issues far past any of mine. You can take a simple
thread on 'how to train' and turn it nasty in a second. This is merely
another sample of it.

It's just my opinion here, but I think you need to consider differences in
experience, lifestyles and even number of dogs before you can totally
discount advise from another trainer. For those who are new to the world
of training there is a lot of value to seeing "both sides" and then making
decisions on which style suits their needs. If you find the manner in
which advice is given to be particularly caustic or demeaning, just ignore
it. Pretty simple really.

Yeah, but with so little traffic I hesitate to kill file him. I'd love to
see the groups grow back again but it's difficult when new posters come in
and get driven off.