My boyfriend and I recently adopted a 3 year old male Papillon from
the Humane Society. We also have a 1 year old female Schnoodle (which
we've had since she was 10 wks).

When we adopted him, we were told he was not housebroken. We recently
learned he came from a home that had 4 other dogs, which he was
"actively" fighting with (although he isn't aggressive towards our
Schnoodle except when she gets rough when they play).

Anyways...we take him outside regularly, but he shows zero interest in
the outside..he doesn't sniff or investigate. He just stands there
and looks around. If he goes out with our Schnoodle, he will sniff
her, but that's it.

He has accidents in the house and we just don't know how to make him
interested in the outside.
He is crated when we leave and supervised when we are at home (and we
are stepping up our supervision).

I guess I need advice, support, ANYTHING about how to help in
outside...also, anyone else ever have this problem? I am very
frustrated and just overwhelmed with this problem, but committed to
fix it!

Thank you!

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eegray wrote:


Anyways...we take him outside regularly, but he shows zero interest in
the outside..he doesn't sniff or investigate. He just stands there
and looks around. If he goes out with our Schnoodle, he will sniff
her, but that's it.

He has accidents in the house and we just don't know how to make him
interested in the outside.
He is crated when we leave and supervised when we are at home (and we
are stepping up our supervision).



Has he EVER produced outside? That's the time for a party! On leash?
off leash? yard? walk? What's the weather like where you are?

What I would do with this dog:

Feed him on a regular schedule. Crate him unless he's at your feet.
Schedule play sessions with your other dog, but only when you are right
there. Otherwise, he gets NO house freedom at all. Tether him to you
whenever he's not in his crate. Take him out at regular intervals.
Every time he has an accident (or more likely an "on purpose") in the
house, it reinforces that he CAN. Don't let that happen and he'll have
to break down and eliminate outdoors.

If you have nice weather where you are, get a book, a big bowl of water
(maybe with some chicken broth added) and spend the day outside. Let
him drink, drink, drink and drink. Sooner or later, it will become
urgent for him.

The key is vigilance indoors. Shut doors, use a tether and crate and
don't let him out of your sight for even a split second.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Feb 11, 12:48 pm, Janet Boss
wrote:
Has he EVER produced outside? That's the time for a party! On leash?
off leash? yard? walk? What's the weather like where you are?

No, not since we've gotten him (on Saturday). So far he's had 4 #1
accidents and 1 #2 accident. I took him on a walk today and he did
some sniffing and I praised him for that..but other than that,
nothing. He just stays by my feet...walks very close. He did try
eating some poop someone didn't pick up.. :P

The weather is awful right now...we couldn't have gotten him at a
worse time (-3, wind chill -20). Tomorrow it is going to snow.. I do
have an extra sweater and booties for him to wear when necessary.

Should i take him out with my other dog? He seems to respond better
when she is there and he sees her.

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eegray wrote:

gotten him (on Saturday). So far he's had 4 #1
accidents and 1 #2 accident. I took him on a walk today and he did
some sniffing and I praised him for that..but other than that,
nothing. He just stays by my feet...walks very close. He did try
eating some poop someone didn't pick up.. :P

Ooh - too bad he has that habit, because sniffing someone else's COULD
help prompt him to eliminate as well. That's out of the question! So,
since Saturday, he's only peed 4x and pooped 1x, and all inside? ACK!
If you got him late on Saturday, maybe, but that's just not enough. Has
he eaten ok?

The weather is awful right now...we couldn't have gotten him at a
worse time (-3, wind chill -20). Tomorrow it is going to snow.. I do
have an extra sweater and booties for him to wear when necessary.

I was hoping you lived someplace warm! I'm not going out any more than
necessary!

Should i take him out with my other dog? He seems to respond better
when she is there and he sees her.

Yes - monkey see - monkey do can be very helpful.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Feb 11, 2:36 pm, Janet Boss
wrote:


Ooh - too bad he has that habit, because sniffing someone else's COULD
help prompt him to eliminate as well. That's out of the question! So,
since Saturday, he's only peed 4x and pooped 1x, and all inside? ACK!
If you got him late on Saturday, maybe, but that's just not enough. Has
he eaten ok?

Yeah, only 1 #2. Crappy; i feel badly because he's probably feels
miserable.

He has eaten really well. We feed 2x a day and at scheduled times
(not free feeding). After they eat, they usually play and then we
take them out (since we've figured out after he plays, he pees). He
is on Fromm's white fish and potato with a spoonful of wet Fromm's
Tuna and potato/carrots/peas. Our other dog has food allergies so she
is on a restricted diet.

He is also a bit overweight. Could that be a problem with going to
the bathroom?

If he does in the house...should we take him out right away? What if
we don't catch him in the act? (well..we should now since we're
stepping up our supervision).

Could he have some fear when it comes to noises? unfortunately, we
live on a busy street so there are lots of cars, people, etc. Noises
that he may not be used to...is there anyway to help him with the
noises?

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My boyfriend and I recently adopted a 3 year old male Papillon
from the Humane Society. We also have a 1 year old female
Schnoodle (which we've had since she was 10 wks).

When we adopted him, we were told he was not housebroken.

That's ABSURD.

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We recently learned he came from a home that had 4 other dogs,
which he was "actively" fighting with (although he isn't aggressive
towards our Schnoodle except when she gets rough when they play).

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we take him outside regularly, but he shows zero
interest in the outside..he doesn't sniff or investigate.

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He just stands there and looks around.

Praise him if he looks at the ground.

If he goes out with our Schnoodle, he will sniff her, but that's it.

Take them out together and he'll copy her.

He has accidents in the house and we just don't
know how to make him interested in the outside.

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how do I address his accidents inside?

is he still unhappy? or is this new home going to take adjustment?

(ps; your link didnt work)

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eegray wrote:


He has eaten really well. We feed 2x a day and at scheduled times
(not free feeding). After they eat, they usually play and then we
take them out (since we've figured out after he plays, he pees).

I *try* not to let dogs play after eating (kind of like no swimming
after eating). Play first, short rest, then eat, then out.

He is also a bit overweight. Could that be a problem with going to
the bathroom?

It could be. If he's constipated, that makes everything difficult.
Some canned pumpkin added to his food can help normalize things.

If he does in the house...should we take him out right away? What if
we don't catch him in the act? (well..we should now since we're
stepping up our supervision).


Good answer! Yes - take him out immediately, but you should be
supervising that he doesn't have the chance.

Could he have some fear when it comes to noises? unfortunately, we
live on a busy street so there are lots of cars, people, etc. Noises
that he may not be used to...is there anyway to help him with the
noises?

Noises are something he's going to have to get used to obviously. Is he
acting fearful or startled or just uncomfortable?

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

I found out today that he is aggressive and very scared around large
dogs (anything bigger than him). when i took him outside (we choose a
spot and bought some scent enhancer) a guy walking his large dog
started barking and he FREAKED!

he hasn't gone outside yet...still waiting, but feeling much better.
trying to take him out to the same spot and chant "go potty" for about
5 minutes and see what happens.

He did have an accident in his crate (#2). What does that mean? I
thought dogs don't soil their sleeping area? The crate is made for a
20-30lb dog and he is 10lbs so he was able to push himself against the
gate and wait to be let out.

eegray wrote:

On Feb 11, 1:45 pm,
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how do I address his accidents inside?

is he still unhappy? or is this new home going to take adjustment?

(ps; your link didnt work)

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yourself if anyone that writes

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dog who's got a HOWEsbreakin problem is EITHER:

can have anything useful to say.

2. Ignore them if you continue to use google, develope a kill file if
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eegray wrote:
... a guy walking his large dog started barking and he FREAKED!

Why was the guy barking? Heck, that'd freak me out, too.

I find a nice long walk to be excellent stimulation for all eliminatory
functions for dogs. Bring a baggie, and good luck!

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