We've been potty training the Monk. its even more of a pain in the ass than
house training a puppy.

Monks doing well though, although he had a couple of poop accidents, which
were absolutely revolting. I actually vomited before decided to throw his
underwear away after one. I've cleaned up plenty of dog **** in my day but
this was so much more foul.

So in order to avoid any more poop accidents we moved his little potty into
the living room. I noticed the signs of impending poop and put him on his
potty. And he pooped!! so I cheered and danced and had him come into the
kitchen so I could wipe his little butt. He's facing the living room during
this operation and he says "Mommy, what is Pirate eating?"

I glance up and Tok and Pirate are both right next to the potty and indeed
Pirate appears to be swallowing something.
I scream . I run to the potty and yes, the turd is gone. I scream "PIRATE
!! NO EATING POOP!". Monk starts laughing and yelling "Pirate ate poop!!"
and dancing around the room with an unclean butt.

Pirate was confined to his crate until he ate four greenies. And drank a
ton of water.
And there will be no kissing for a LONG time.

"Beth In Alaska" wrote in message
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We've been potty training the Monk. its even more of a pain in the ass
than house training a puppy.

Monks doing well though, although he had a couple of poop accidents, which
were absolutely revolting. I actually vomited before decided to throw his
underwear away after one. I've cleaned up plenty of dog **** in my day
but this was so much more foul.

So in order to avoid any more poop accidents we moved his little potty
into the living room. I noticed the signs of impending poop and put him
on his potty. And he pooped!! so I cheered and danced and had him come
into the kitchen so I could wipe his little butt. He's facing the living
room during this operation and he says "Mommy, what is Pirate eating?"

I glance up and Tok and Pirate are both right next to the potty and indeed
Pirate appears to be swallowing something.
I scream . I run to the potty and yes, the turd is gone. I scream "PIRATE
!! NO EATING POOP!". Monk starts laughing and yelling "Pirate ate poop!!"
and dancing around the room with an unclean butt.

Pirate was confined to his crate until he ate four greenies. And drank a
ton of water.
And there will be no kissing for a LONG time.



LOL, and to think, wasn't it just a week or two ago when *we* were going
over the *poop in potty, no poop in pants, candy* routine! ;-] For some
reason, boys seem to be much worse than girls. Truly Human poop way worse
than doggie poop. I agree.


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"Beth In Alaska" wrote:


So in order to avoid any more poop accidents we moved his little potty into
the living room. I noticed the signs of impending poop and put him on his
potty. And he pooped!! so I cheered and danced and had him come into the
kitchen so I could wipe his little butt. He's facing the living room during
this operation and he says "Mommy, what is Pirate eating?"

Beside the grossness of the whole story, I admit to not getting this
approach. Elimination belongs in the bathroom, just like the big people
do. Housebreaking toddlers isn't all that different from puppies. Know
when the being is likely to produce what, ask for a try before a nap or
bedtime or getting in the car, and after the being wakes up.

From your description, I'm not sure Monk is ready. I'd be using
pull-ups or whatever the new version is.

I've always like the little seat on the big toilet as well. A cleaner
approach, plus it's "like the big kids".

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www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

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"Beth In Alaska" wrote:



Beside the grossness of the whole story, I admit to not getting this
approach. Elimination belongs in the bathroom, just like the big people
do. Housebreaking toddlers isn't all that different from puppies. Know
when the being is likely to produce what, ask for a try before a nap or
bedtime or getting in the car, and after the being wakes up.

From your description, I'm not sure Monk is ready. I'd be using
pull-ups or whatever the new version is.

I've always like the little seat on the big toilet as well. A cleaner
approach, plus it's "like the big kids".


I do agree with Janet here. IIRC, Monk is around the same age as the twins,
isn't he Beth? They sit perfectly fine on the regular potty. We don't have
any potty chairs or even baby seats. We have little stools in all our
bathrooms for the boys. They stand on the stools to pee, and they use them
the same way to turn around and sit for poop. I've always found bribery to
go a long way in potty training. A reward for success. And making a HUGE
deal over 'big boy underpants'. Taking them shopping to choose which ones
they want, Superman, Cars, Bob The Builder, etc. The only place I disagree
a bit is the pull-ups. I've always found they make potty training a bit
more difficult. They are too much like a diaper. I've always used the
regular cloth training pants for my own kids and recommended them to the
daughters for the grandsons. They aren't as easy to find now days, but they
are out there.



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"tiny dancer" wrote:

I've always found they make potty training a bit
more difficult. They are too much like a diaper.

I thought the new ones had a "feel wet" feature, which makes them less
so. Otherwise, I agree.

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www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

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"tiny dancer" wrote:

I've always found they make potty training a bit
more difficult. They are too much like a diaper.

I thought the new ones had a "feel wet" feature, which makes them less
so. Otherwise, I agree.


That didn't seem to effect the grandsons at all. They treated them as if
they were wearing a diaper. Perhaps it's that the texture is much like that
of a disposable diaper? Or that cloth training pants are just like real
big boy undies, with the same fly-front as *daddy* has on his undies. We
made a huge deal out of that, 'being just like daddy's undies.'


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I've always found bribery to
go a long way in potty training. A reward for success.


If you have Dollar Stores up your way, they have lots and lots of stickers.
Fancy ones, irredescent ones, shiney ones, hollogram, etc. They make great
*rewards* without having to use candy as much. Once they 'get the hang of
it', going on the potty, you could do something special for a certain number
of stickers earned. Like, 'if you get five stickers' you get to pick a
prize from the prize box.' I fixed a prize box, with a bunch of little crap
the boys would like, mostly again, from the Dollar store. If/when they are
really really good, they get to pick a prize from the box. You could try
something like that, Beth. Begin small, big treat for success, and then
gradually drag it out to earning stickers for prize box stuff.


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"Janet Boss" wrote in message:

Beside the grossness of the whole story,

I knew I shouldn't have read any further when the subject said 'includes dog
content'. EWWW!

I admit to not getting this
approach. Elimination belongs in the bathroom, just like the big people
do.

I didn't know they made separate potties for kids. SIL has always used a
toilet seat that fits over the regular one, and that's what nephew
used/uses. I think he was potty trained when he was 2 or 2 1/2? Now, he is
6 years old and can do fractions, but still won't wipe his own butt clean,
but that's a whole another story (he can't have any more sleepovers with us
until he learns).

From your description, I'm not sure Monk is ready. I'd be using
pull-ups or whatever the new version is.

I'm told by others with kid experience that pull-ups make potty training
harder. Don't know how much truth there is to it.

Suja

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"Suja" wrote:


I'm told by others with kid experience that pull-ups make potty training
harder. Don't know how much truth there is to it.

I think it depends on the kid, but if my kid was having blowouts in
underpants, my gross meter would have me doing something disposable!

FWIW, I don't have kids. I *have* housebroken several at my home (who
then sometimes were not at their own - very interesting). I do think
that trying before a kid is ready can just frustrate everyone though.
And kids are so individual with that.

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www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Suja wrote:

I'm told by others with kid experience that pull-ups make potty training
harder. Don't know how much truth there is to it.

My mom found that just taking pants away, period, was pretty
motivational. As in, we were all reliably potty trained within
about 24 hours. (There were a few overnight issues with a couple of
the boys, but that's a different matter.)

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